Ok thx so that gives them just under 3.3 M left with holzer and smith in ahl.

Franson gets a 1 year deal at mid 2's and if he plays well next year he gets the term he wants at the 4 he is looking for. Suck it up for 1 more year Franson.

Should we as fans organize some kind of fundraiser for him to help him in this tough time. ?

Man I would love to be only be making 2.5 M this year.
- D.Lemieux

so easy for us fans to say

Good Article about Bernier..
"Your agent has yet to speak to an NHL executive or scout who does not think Bernier has the goods to become a star.

The interesting thing about the Leafs goaltending situation is the fans have not rushed to embrace Bernier with their usual early enthusiasm.

Part of this must be the wariness bred from other would-be saviours over the years, from Andrew Raycroft to Vesa Toskala. The other part is affection for the incumbent, James Reimer, who won a lot of hearts by coming out of nowhere two years ago to grab the No. 1 job and then fought his way back from a concussion to grab it again last season.

Hence all of the talk about a “goaltending controversy.” Well, this is not going to be much of a controversy because barring injury, Bernier, 25, will have the top job nailed down by the end of October.

Bernier went 9-3-1 in 14 games last season with the Los Angeles Kings, with a .922 save percentage and 1.88 goals-against average. He bailed out the Kings when Jonathan Quick struggled at the start of the season and should have kept the No. 1 job.

There are those in the hockey world who say Los Angeles GM Dean Lombardi might have been tempted to trade Quick, who won the Kings the 2012 Stanley Cup, instead of Bernier. But since Quick is an American it would have been a foolhardy move with Southern California hockey fans.

The betting here is come June, Nonis’s trade for Bernier will be ranked among the top one or two NHL off-season moves for 2013-14."
From Dshultz

http://www.theglobeandmai...lvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

so is Kadri a stud again?
- scotch_tape

We went over this yesterday!...Franson is better!!

Anyone know the ratings for the Leafs in 2014 NHL ?
- .HOHO.

During a 48game schedule or 82?

http://www.theglobeandmai...lvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
- IrishRage

don't think the Leafs can afford a $4 million hit this year?
- scotch_tape

well they are going to have to find 3.5-4 million, otherwise Franson wont sign.

i would think he would look at the situation with Gunnarsson, and simply say i want a better deal than that. i would if i was him.

so easy for us fans to say
- scotch_tape

Yea, sucking it up to make millions. Such a hard thing for anyone to do.

well they are going to have to find 3.5-4 million, otherwise Franson wont sign.

i would think he would look at the situation with Gunnarsson, and simply say i want a better deal than that. i would if i was him.
- Rockhead_37

gunnarsson plays top pairing,

franson plays third pairing

he doesnt have much of an argument if thats what he's pitching

I'd love to get Franson on a one year deal. Retrospectively they prob should have just given him an extra year last contract. Im sure he'll want either a big contract, or a short one at two year deal. I can't see him wanting to put himself in another RFA position next year.

gunnarsson plays top pairing,

franson plays third pairing

he doesnt have much of an argument if thats what he's pitching
- Dozzer

I want more money than the guy that played more than me.

I want more money than the guy that played more than me.
- burn

against tougher competition

i'm obviously worth more

gunnarsson plays top pairing,

franson plays third pairing

he doesnt have much of an argument if thats what he's pitching
- Dozzer

3rd pairing??
you mean 2nd pairng, with a lot of pp time....
i don't share the same love affair with gunnarsson as you.. i don't mind him, but i don't think he is that much better than franson... but thats me, i tend to watch the games and not listen to media.

I want more money than the guy that played more than me.
- burn

He's not getting it...He can sit...

I'd love to get Franson on a one year deal. Retrospectively they prob should have just given him an extra year last contract. Im sure he'll want either a big contract, or a short one at two year deal. I can't see him wanting to put himself in another RFA position next year.
- kylkri

when does franson become a UFA? 2yrs?

3rd pairing??
you mean 2nd pairng, with a lot of pp time....
i don't share the same love affair with gunnarsson as you.. i don't mind him, but i don't think he is that much better than franson... but thats me, i tend to watch the games and not listen to media.
- Rockhead_37

I haven't really seen much in the media about Gunnarsson being better than... anyone.

I actually haven't read anything about Gunnarsson in the media... like... ever.


Do they even know he exists?


Edit: and Franson was 5th in TOI/G, 7th in ESTOI/G... and was most frequently paired with Fraser...

He was bottom pairing, with second PP duty. Pretty much the definition of a sheltered player. He did awesome in his role... but he wasn't a key player for the Leafs last season.

Cuz Kadri's bridge deal should be definitely more than a norris winning defensemen from last year......."Facepalm"
- Sheppy99

You know he didn't win the Norris before signing the deal...right?

3rd pairing??
you mean 2nd pairng, with a lot of pp time....
i don't share the same love affair with gunnarsson as you.. i don't mind him, but i don't think he is that much better than franson... but thats me, i tend to watch the games and not listen to media.
- Rockhead_37

franson fraser was the third pairing.. they were all year.. its not even debatable. and no, the last 4 games of the playoffs does not make him a defacto second pairing guy.. not at all. not when it was due to injury.

most of their shifts were against 3rd and 4th lines during the regular season.

sure.. he got PP time.. but to offset that Gunnar got PK time so that offsets that.

Franson is worth about 2.5 tops.. he has no leverage.. so if he wants to ruin his career and sit because of a squable over a few hundred thousand.. let him

against tougher competition

i'm obviously worth more
- Dozzer

(while injured)

gunnarsson plays top pairing,

franson plays third pairing

he doesnt have much of an argument if thats what he's pitching
- Dozzer

Gunnarsson wouldn't play top pairing if there was a better option

Good Article about Bernier..
"Your agent has yet to speak to an NHL executive or scout who does not think Bernier has the goods to become a star.

The interesting thing about the Leafs goaltending situation is the fans have not rushed to embrace Bernier with their usual early enthusiasm.

Part of this must be the wariness bred from other would-be saviours over the years, from Andrew Raycroft to Vesa Toskala. The other part is affection for the incumbent, James Reimer, who won a lot of hearts by coming out of nowhere two years ago to grab the No. 1 job and then fought his way back from a concussion to grab it again last season.
Hence all of the talk about a “goaltending controversy.” Well, this is not going to be much of a controversy because barring injury, Bernier, 25, will have the top job nailed down by the end of October.

Bernier went 9-3-1 in 14 games last season with the Los Angeles Kings, with a .922 save percentage and 1.88 goals-against average. He bailed out the Kings when Jonathan Quick struggled at the start of the season and should have kept the No. 1 job.

There are those in the hockey world who say Los Angeles GM Dean Lombardi might have been tempted to trade Quick, who won the Kings the 2012 Stanley Cup, instead of Bernier. But since Quick is an American it would have been a foolhardy move with Southern California hockey fans.

The betting here is come June, Nonis’s trade for Bernier will be ranked among the top one or two NHL off-season moves for 2013-14."
From Dshultz

http://www.theglobeandmai...lvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
- IrishRage

That, and maybe a little bit of it's been the summer, we haven't actually seen the guy, and we've been busy drinking beer on docks and patios.

What a stupid article.

OMG! Let's riot!*

Gunnarsson wouldn't play top pairing if there was a better option
- bobbyisno1

The point being, Franson clearly wasn't a better option than an injured Gunnarsson. Nobody on the team was.

(while injured)
- Feeling Glucky?

i dont understand the franson love affair.. buddy gets a few points and all of a sudden he's our best d-man?

come on.

maybe look at the matchups carlyle used him in for just two seconds. of course he looked good.. he wasnt exactly put through the ringer when it came to his D

Gunnarsson wouldn't play top pairing if there was a better option
- bobbyisno1

and there isnt.

so where does that put franson?

you just made my point for me.

Edit: and Franson was 5th in TOI/G, 7th in ESTOI/G... and was most frequently paired with Fraser...

- Feeling Glucky?

4th, and if you remove the guy who only played 12 games.... 3rd...

franson fraser was the third pairing.. they were all year.. its not even debatable. and no, the last 4 games of the playoffs does not make him a defacto second pairing guy.. not at all. not when it was due to injury.

most of their shifts were against 3rd and 4th lines during the regular season.

sure.. he got PP time.. but to offset that Gunnar got PK time so that offsets that.

Franson is worth about 2.5 tops.. he has no leverage.. so if he wants to ruin his career and sit because of a squable over a few hundred thousand.. let him
- Dozzer

No.

Franson is like Bobby Orr, only with better knees.