longterm he deserves about 4M, but longterm shouldnt even be considered. 4-5 years would be a sick deal, if we can get him for a steal for 3.5M around 4-5 years would be nice. If he signs a 1 year probably 2-2.5M would work. For a bridge deal of 2 years probably 3M per
- Mapleleafs_91

oh.. everything i have said today was based on the notion of a bridge contract.. long term.. yes.. he should get a bit more.. but for a one or two year bridge.. just nice n cheap.. prove your consistency is here to stay and then rake in the big bucks a year or two from now

oh.. everything i have said today was based on the notion of a bridge contract.. long term.. yes.. he should get a bit more.. but for a one or two year bridge.. just nice n cheap.. prove your consistency is here to stay and then rake in the big bucks a year or two from now
- Dozzer

yeah i agree

false.

They would have 500k or so loft - they get 787k relief sending Holzer down, cause he's the 8th dman.

Still have 1D and 1F healthy scratch each game, with 500k. Sending Trevor Smith down saves another 600k
- Big_Lightnin

Taken into consideration. Point is that Nonis can't budge off current offer to Kadri and Franson is really going to have to take far less than he is asking for Like 40 % less.

Meh all i know is i jumped up and went nuts more for franson and gardiner over the rest of the defense squad heck liles didnt even do that half bad when he was FINALLY inputed in the lineup
- Mapleleafs_91

i like liles.. and i hope nonis instructs carlyle to play him every game so he can find his groove and be traded.

i like liles.. and i hope nonis instructs carlyle to play him every game so he can find his groove and be traded.
- Dozzer

If he regains form and gets good, I wonder what we could get for him + Franson at the deadline.

If he regains form and gets good, I wonder what we could get for him + Franson at the deadline.
- UsernameUnknown

O reilly

If he regains form and gets good, I wonder what we could get for him + Franson at the deadline.
- UsernameUnknown

and if he proves he is slow and fragile, Leafs are stuck with him for 3 more years or they buy him out.

If he regains form and gets good, I wonder what we could get for him + Franson at the deadline.
- UsernameUnknown

Stastny or O'Reilly depends whos going the other way from us

i like liles.. and i hope nonis instructs carlyle to play him every game so he can find his groove and be traded.
- Dozzer

yee he actually played half decent Carlyle should take notes, how do the habs win against boston? Small midgets and speedy guys. We didnt need to have fraser or koskta(ahl) or obyrne playing. Orr is a heavy guy but gotta love him Least hes not on defense

O reilly
- Yeti1181

That was actually my first thought as well

and if he proves he is slow and fragile, Leafs are stuck with him for 3 more years or they buy him out.
- Symba007

He won't. This'll be his career year. After all, Bozak is on the team. Everybody has career years with Bozak.

Oh man if Nonis could just dump Liles and get Kadri, Franson and Raymond on board that'd be soooo awesome!

If he regains form and gets good, I wonder what we could get for him + Franson at the deadline.
- UsernameUnknown

i really think if he doesnt get benched every other game he'll become a 40P d-man again

hell he had 11P in 32 games.. and was never really given a chance to find his groove and given any decent minutes. that would of worked out to be damn near a 30P season over 82 games

if thats his poopty season i can live with that.

Oh man if Nonis could just dump Liles and get Kadri, Franson and Raymond on board that'd be soooo awesome!
- AngryWhiteMale

Vegas has advised the League that in this eventuality, they will no longer take bets for the Leafs winning the cup as this would bankrupt Vegas next June.

i really think if he doesnt get benched every other game he'll become a 40P d-man again

hell he had 11P in 32 games.. and was never really given a chance to find his groove and given any decent minutes. that would of worked out to be damn near a 30P season over 82 games

if thats his poopty season i can live with that.
- Dozzer

He is only 32, it's not impossible.

Vegas has advised the League that in this eventuality, they will no longer take bets for the Leafs winning the cup as this would bankrupt Vegas next June.
- Symba007

Vegas is already bankrupt!

I'll go to Macau if need be!

and if he proves he is slow and fragile, Leafs are stuck with him for 3 more years or they buy him out.
- Symba007

that would be no change from his current status.. although slow he is not.. he is still a good skater.. he was just a bit timid.

its one of those things where your coach just has to play and play and play you til you get it out of your system

He is only 32, it's not impossible.
- Symba007

at least give him his damn shot. everyone deserves an honest chance to return from an injury. i dont feel he has gotten that chance yet.

i really think if he doesnt get benched every other game he'll become a 40P d-man again

hell he had 11P in 32 games.. and was never really given a chance to find his groove and given any decent minutes. that would of worked out to be damn near a 30P season over 82 games

if thats his poopty season i can live with that.
- Dozzer

I think you're right. I wouldn't mind keeping him for another season to increase value, but how could we possibly afford it? If he doesn't go, who does?

I think you're right. I wouldn't mind keeping him for another season to increase value, but how could we possibly afford it? If he doesn't go, who does?
- UsernameUnknown

Trade one of your 8 goons.

at least give him his damn shot. everyone deserves an honest chance to return from an injury. i dont feel he has gotten that chance yet.
- Dozzer

Should have never signed him to that contract - Burke fleeced the Leafs - I wonder if he signed some of these guys as favours??. ( drinking buddies )

Trade one of your 8 goons.
- Symba007

Yeah, Montreal would love that.

Trade one of your 8 goons.
- Symba007

8

I think you're right. I wouldn't mind keeping him for another season to increase value, but how could we possibly afford it? If he doesn't go, who does?
- UsernameUnknown

you guys are far too convinced that franson and kadri will cost too much

colborne smith and holzer will clear up nearly 2 million once they get demoted.

tho i dont expect colborne will go down.

Should have never signed him to that contract - Burke fleeced the Leafs - I wonder if he signed some of these guys as favours??. ( drinking buddies )
- Garnie

it was too early agreed. should of waited to see how he recovered from injury first.

ah well.. i think if he's give a chance to prove himself.. and does well enough.. he could tempt a team who needs mobility on the back end to take him on

and if he does poopty.. demote him.. clear the 900K off the cap.. and go another route. big whoop.. its only money.. MLSE has plenty