- Big_Lightnin

I like the leafs offer to kadri 2yr/5.1m.

I don't think kadri is worth duchene's bridge contract $$$.

not what i mean

1: nashville moved him to get out from under lombardi's salary.. which really wasnt a whole lot.. and only for two more years.. they couldnt of been that attached to him

2: the leafs consistently have benched him, and stood strong on contractual demands.. they obviously dont feel pressure to get him signed

just seems everywhere this guy goes teams seem to have no issue going on without him. that says something to me.
- Dozzer

Kevin Klein had a big year and they expected him to take Franson's spot at a cheaper price.

Franson now way better than Klein... so ooops.

Kinda like Leafs with Pogge-Rask. Thought they could afford to let one go... made the wrong choice.

Ok gotta go - been a great productive morning!

Dozzer has a man crush on Franson and thinks he is going to score 60 points this year

Over and out


- Garnie

well that tongue

I like the leafs offer to kadri 2yr/5.1m.

I don't think kadri is worth duchene's bridge contract $$$.
- zazzle

I'd give him $3M per to get him in (frank)ing camp.

Kevin Klein had a big year and they expected him to take Franson's spot at a cheaper price.

Franson now way better than Klein... so ooops.

Kinda like Leafs with Pogge-Rask. Thought they could afford to let one go... made the wrong choice.
- Big_Lightnin

Reminding me now of keeping Gunnar over Franson....

If we lose Franson, we'll regret it...

I doubt he gets more than 3.

For doing what? He wouldn't have a good case in his favour. I agree Franson should have hit arbitration, but that wouldnt have worked out well for Toronto cause Franson could make a case with his point totals. Hard to win arbitration on defensive play that doesn't show up on paper, whereas hits and points are more solid factors.
- systemtool

Yeah he would. #2 dman on the team playing all the toughest minutes, 25ptts dman with the potential to go higher.

Hjalmersson just signed for over 4. He has an excellent case.

Kevin Klein had a big year and they expected him to take Franson's spot at a cheaper price.

Franson now way better than Klein... so ooops.

Kinda like Leafs with Pogge-Rask. Thought they could afford to let one go... made the wrong choice.
- Big_Lightnin

I bought a lot of his underwear. Good stuff.

Nashville is a budget team though. They couldnt afford Franson, when they had better Dmen to pay, and they needed to ditch $$.

We just bought Grabo out. I don't think this should suggest that Grabo isn't a very good hockey player, especially when compared to who the Leafs chose to actually keep instead of him.

Franson would likely have been traded by now if Toronto didnt really care to keep him.
- systemtool

well.. i guess we will see how it plays out.. fact is.. he is either going to sit and file a grievance.. or.. he will take a cheap pay again and be pissed about it.

either way.. i think franson wont be here long term

Reminding me now of keeping Gunnar over Franson....

If we lose Franson, we'll regret it...
- systemtool

Who says they have to chose? Maybe they plan to keep both?

well.. i guess we will see how it plays out.. fact is.. he is either going to sit and file a grievance.. or.. he will take a cheap pay again and be pissed about it.

either way.. i think franson wont be here long term
- Dozzer

Sadly (for me, I know you don't like him), we finally agree on something. Guess we should leave it at this.

Who says they have to chose? Maybe they plan to keep both?
- burn

I don't know? Who says they don't have to choose? Maybe they dont plan on keeping either?

"If" can be such a great word.

Yea, but then he got passed in favour of others come playoff time, and they could show that his level of play fell off.

4 million for Gunnar?

Ill have to disagree that minutes played matters more than point totals.
- systemtool

He wasn't passed in the playoffs. still played more than everyone but dion.


Mins played and the type of mins are a big factor, its been talked about on tsn radio.

Sadly (for me, I know you don't like him), we finally agree on something. Guess we should leave it at this.
- systemtool

I have no issues with franson, i like him. Hope he stays.

I'd give him $3M per to get him in (frank)ing camp.


- Big_Lightnin

it may come down to that. don't think he'll get that. 2.75m per is what I think he'll get.

I think Franson should be named captain.

He wasn't passed in the playoffs. still played more than everyone but dion.


Mins played and the type of mins are a big factor, its been talked about on tsn radio.
- burn

He played less mins a game than franson, in the playoffs.

I think Franson should be named captain.
- Stee-Dot

If phaneuf is gone next year who do you pick? Lupul? Clarkson?

If phaneuf is gone next year who do you pick? Lupul? Clarkson?
- systemtool

Ben Affleck.

If phaneuf is gone next year who do you pick? Lupul? Clarkson?
- systemtool

Rielly

I think Franson should be named captain.
- Stee-Dot

if that means phaneuf is gone then sure!

Rielly
- vermie22

Val Kilmer.

Problem is, if youre moving Liles, youre not likely moving his entire salary.

Leafs can keep up to $1.9M of his salary if need be as he would be their 3rd retained salary until next year where both Scrivens and Frattin's retained salaries expire.
- Colin Dambrauskas

If you're moving Liles by himself, that would be true, but if the Leafs include a prospect or a pick that dynamic changes. I know many people on boards like this place a high value on unproven players, but from my perspective I place greater value on $2 million in extra cap space than I do on a Blacker or a D'Amigo.

Ben Affleck.
- Stee-Dot

Its like Kessel and Bozak. You know Matt Damon has to be an assistant.

He wasn't passed in the playoffs. still played more than everyone but dion.


Mins played and the type of mins are a big factor, its been talked about on tsn radio.
- burn

the bolded.. too many people dont put enough emphasis on that

it may come down to that. don't think he'll get that. 2.75m per is what I think he'll get.
- zazzle

2.75 is the fair price, but he wants 7M for 3.5 per....so....I say its closer to 3 at this rate once they meet in the middle.

Maybe 2.875 or thereabouts.