yup.. thats what i mean.. need more character back there.. not flash
- Dozzer

Yes trade Phaneuf for a #1 shutdown D to play with Franson - save some money and gets that big blockhead outta the room!!!!!

What do you think we'll get for Reimer?
- Stee-Dot

in the end? a decent backup

dont need to have three lines.. just crash the net hard and shoot fom the slot

you'll score

dont evven need the sustained pressure.. just keep hurling your big bodies at the crease and the leafs wont be able to do sweet Richard all about it
- Dozzer

um... that would be sustained pressure.

"I disagree... you're RIGHT!"

gunnar is a far more manageable player cap wise moving forward.. franson seems to think of himself as a potential star.. he isnt.. and never will be

keep gunnar.. who is more reliable on the back end .. and move the guy who has held out twice in two years.

(frank) this guy.. seriously
- Dozzer

Of course he keeps holding out when the team keeps low balling him. Dmen who can do more than one thing well are more valuable. Gunnar is a shutdown stay at home dman who collapsed under the pressure of game 7 last year. Trade that bum and stop going cheap with the guys who can actually have a future with this team.

We need more than just reliable back there, and we need more than what Gunnar gave us when Boston scored 2 goals in the last 2 minutes. Dmen who can score and throw hits are better than Dmen who can...well...be reliably unreliable.

If fine with keeping Gunnar, but not at the expense of Franson.

dont need to have three lines.. just crash the net hard and shoot fom the slot

you'll score

evven need the sustained pressure.. just keep hurling your big bodies at the crease and the leafs wont be able to do sweet Richard all about it
- Dozzer

Nah, gunner healthy - Fraser healthy - leafs are gonna ROCK this year

Yes trade Phaneuf for a #1 shutdown D to play with Franson - save some money and gets that big blockhead outta the room!!!!!
- Garnie

i'd do that for certain.

thats kind of how i see franson.. he's a younger phaneuf who can actually hit the net (since phaneuf doesnt really do the big hit thing anymore)

Yes trade Phaneuf for a #1 shutdown D to play with Franson - save some money and gets that big blockhead outta the room!!!!!
- Garnie

gunnar is a far more manageable player cap wise moving forward.. franson seems to think of himself as a potential star.. he isnt.. and never will be

keep gunnar.. who is more reliable on the back end .. and move the guy who has held out twice in two years.

(frank) this guy.. seriously
- Dozzer

he gone as soon as his rfa years are over

100% with you on this one.. I ordered my two jerseys for this year.
Lupul and *drum roll* Bernier
- IrishRage

Ive never been a Reimer fan, but Im not sold on Bernier just yet either. Not exactly a whole lot more experienced than Reimer with similar numbers...on a better team...never played more than 25games in one year...I dont know.

The way I sees it, the Leafs have a good chance that either of them will be good...so tough to complain there.

- Big_Lightnin

Too much crazy in here today.

- Big_Lightnin

I know you're a Phaneuf fan, I like him too but big salary and well....

Of course he keeps holding out when the team keeps low balling him. Dmen who can do more than one thing well are more valuable. Gunnar is a shutdown stay at home dman who collapsed under the pressure of game 7 last year. Trade that bum and stop going cheap with the guys who can actually have a future with this team.

We need more than just reliable back there, and we need more than what Gunnar gave us when Boston scored 2 goals in the last 2 minutes. Dmen who can score and throw hits are better than Dmen who can...well...be reliably unreliable.

If fine with keeping Gunnar, but not at the expense of Franson.
- systemtool

you know phanuef was on the ice too.. our captain?

gunnar two goals gunnar two goals gunnar two goals

want to repeat it more?

personally i fault coaching for that.. both phaneuf and gunnar were gassed and carlyle left them out there. it was a dumb move.. they needed fresher legs on the ice.

he gone as soon as his rfa years are over
- Sammich

I wouldn't stick around either if I were him.

he gone as soon as his rfa years are over
- Sammich

yup.. there is no way in hell he will sign in toronto as a ufa.

(frank) it.. sign him for a year and trade him.. he's as good as gone anyways

Ive never been a Reimer fan, but Im not sold on Bernier just yet either. Not exactly a whole lot more experienced than Reimer with similar numbers...on a better team...never played more than 25games in one year...I dont know.

The way I sees it, the Leafs have a good chance that either of them will be good...so tough to complain there.
- Colin Dambrauskas

Great 1-2 punch I hope - for sure 100% better than Reimer - Scrivens

Phaneuf - Gunnar
Fraser - Affleck
Liles - Gardiner

- Stee-Dot

god dammit stee, affleck shoots left, get your head in the game man

you know phanuef was on the ice too.. our captain?

gunnar two goals gunnar two goals gunnar two goals

want to repeat it more?

personally i fault coaching for that.. both phaneuf and gunnar were gassed and carlyle left them out there. it was a dumb move.. they needed fresher legs on the ice.
- Dozzer

Phaneuf was our best Dman last year. Franson was second.

Gunnar is the odd man out in this case.

I fault the whole team for that, but in the end, Gunnar looked lost out there even if people want to put the blame solely on Phaneuf. Yes, repeat it more. 2 goals, gunnar, 2 goals.

I wouldn't stick around either if I were him.
- systemtool

i agree

yup.. there is no way in hell he will sign in toronto as a ufa.

(frank) it.. sign him for a year and trade him.. he's as good as gone anyways
- Dozzer

I read ( if your still talking Franson) that he's not mad at all and he realizes this is just part of the biz!!!

I wouldn't stick around either if I were him.
- systemtool

so why invest more in him then?

sign him and trade him.. otherwise you let him walk for nothing

i agree
- Sammich

He should not be making a penny less than Gunnar. It's a shame that we're making examples out of Kadri and Franson, two players who could have a big role in this teams future.

Of course he keeps holding out when the team keeps low balling him. Dmen who can do more than one thing well are more valuable. Gunnar is a shutdown stay at home dman who collapsed under the pressure of game 7 last year. Trade that bum and stop going cheap with the guys who can actually have a future with this team.

We need more than just reliable back there, and we need more than what Gunnar gave us when Boston scored 2 goals in the last 2 minutes. Dmen who can score and throw hits are better than Dmen who can...well...be reliably unreliable.

If fine with keeping Gunnar, but not at the expense of Franson.
- systemtool

Ya... cause Franson's puck chasing up by the top of the circle on the OT goal is what we want instead right?

Seriously... Franson wasn't on the ice the last 1:30 of regulation cause he'd aleady made it clear he couldn't handle Lucic AT ALL the entire series.

god dammit stee, affleck shoots left, get your head in the game man
- Sammich

Phaneuf was our best Dman last year. Franson was second.

Gunnar is the odd man out in this case.

I fault the whole team for that, but in the end, Gunnar looked lost out there even if people want to put the blame solely on Phaneuf. Yes, repeat it more. 2 goals, gunnar, 2 goals.
- systemtool

that doesn't in any way mean they should play together on the top pair.