I'm impressed at your time management.... how you can be a doctor and find enough time to post on hockeybuzz is just astounding...

You don't know what Liles is or isn't, no one really does until after this season. If he has a bad season then fine he's done otherwise he's a wil card just like the oft injured ruskie on the habs, remember him?
- Mr_Smokey

Actually, I'm just repeating what everyone's been saying on here since they want him gone...

I Like your-- at least I think it was, idea of signing him to a one year and moving him at the deadline for even more value.
- UsernameUnknown

honestly i think this is prolly the best idea

either way.. next contract he will be looking for big dollars.. more than he is worth

No.
- Pecafan Fan

Yes

Dr. Pecafan fan.

Love it.

Franson is worth much more to the Leafs at this point than a 2nd round draft pick or a nameless prospect.
- Mr_Smokey

i dont see it that way.. unless you feel you are a contender or close to being one you shouldnt think like this

thats how we ended up with the muskoka five

You mean a guy that isn't the same player since he got concussed and on the hook for 3 more seasons?

No.
- Pecafan Fan

Yes he was terrible last year on pace for 30 pts@ 1.8 that's a fair value

i dont see it that way.. unless you feel you are a contender or close to being one you shouldnt think like this

thats how we ended up with the muskoka five
- Dozzer

It's not a bad thing to keep your good young players even if you don't intend to contend for the next 5 years.

By that time, Franson would be like..... 29? So in his prime ready to help the Leafs dominate the league like it's 1967!

had to share

Yes he was terrible last year on pace for 30 pts@ 1.8 that's a fair value
- burn

You would have made more sense if you stopped there.

Dozzer

You would have made more sense if you stopped there.
- Scabeh

I know eh, the 30 pts puts a cramp in the style..... Adding that he'd me costing 1.8 mil just makes it worse. 1.8 mil dmen are bottom pair guys that don't come close to that.

I know eh, the 30 pts puts a cramp in the style..... Adding that he'd me costing 1.8 mil just makes it worse. 1.8 mil dmen are bottom pair guys that don't come close to that.
- burn

Tomas.
Kaberle.

I know eh, the 30 pts puts a cramp in the style..... Adding that he'd me costing 1.8 mil just makes it worse. 1.8 mil dmen are bottom pair guys that don't come close to that.
- burn

30 pts offensive d-man who are awful in their own zone are worth less than a bottom pair guy.

30 pts offensive d-man who are awful in their own zone are worth less than a bottom pair guy.
- Scabeh

In 2011-2012, Tomas Kaberle was on pace for 40 points. Then last season he had 3 pts in 10 games, that's good for 24 pts over a full season.

He had value, but no one could see it!

In 2011-2012, Tomas Kaberle was on pace for 40 points. Then last season he had 3 pts in 10 games, that's good for 24 pts over a full season.

He had value, but no one could see it!
- Pecafan Fan

oh poop...

In 2011-2012, Tomas Kaberle was on pace for 40 points. Then last season he had 3 pts in 10 games, that's good for 24 pts over a full season.

He had value, but no one could see it!
- Pecafan Fan

Making 4mil? 1.8 mil a little different

Making 4mil? 1.8 mil a little different
- burn

Did Nonis tell you he'd take half his salary? Because right now, his salary is $3,875,000 and my opinion is that a team would much rather take a change on a rookie on an entry level deal instead of 3 years of an over the hill JM Liles + giving a pick or prospect.

In 2011-2012, Tomas Kaberle was on pace for 40 points. Then last season he had 3 pts in 10 games, that's good for 24 pts over a full season.

He had value, but no one could see it!
- Pecafan Fan

a stick tapped to the end boards could back check better than Kaberle

a stick tapped to the end boards could back check better than Kaberle
- bobbyisno1

*pulls out the +/- card, you know, because it helps my argument*

YEAH BUT KABERLE WAS +4 and LILES WAS -1 !!!

Did Nonis tell you he'd take half his salary? Because right now, his salary is $3,875,000 and my opinion is that a team would much rather take a change on a rookie on an entry level deal instead of 3 years of an over the hill JM Liles + giving a pick or prospect.
- Pecafan Fan

Liles right now has the same value that Lombardi did when the Leafs picked him up, so it would take a similar type of trade. problem is that cap space is tight for most teams at this point.

30 pts offensive d-man who are awful in their own zone are worth less than a bottom pair guy.
- Scabeh

THANK YOU

Liles right now has the same value that Lombardi did when the Leafs picked him up, so it would take a similar type of trade. problem is that cap space is tight for most teams at this point.
- scotch_tape

IMPOSSIBLE! BLASPHEMY! TOMAS KABERLE!

Liles right now has the same value that Lombardi did when the Leafs picked him up, so it would take a similar type of trade. problem is that cap space is tight for most teams at this point.
- scotch_tape

That Lombardi guy who just signed in the Swiss league?

IMPOSSIBLE! BLASPHEMY! TOMAS KABERLE!
- markmark

i've never seen a player so disinterested in playing hockey as him the last 2 years.

IMPOSSIBLE! BLASPHEMY! TOMAS KABERLE!
- markmark

Liles is done. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.

And I'm willing to bet in his case, money isn't as much a problem as the length of his deal. 3 seasons is very long.