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Forums :: Blog World :: Mike Augello: Bridging The Gap For Kadri, Kessel’s Asking Price?
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bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 9 @ 1:52 PM ET
Kadri is on a yatch right now
- robin_steele264



With his bong ?
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 9 @ 1:52 PM ET
oh i dont care if guys smoke weed.. not one bit. so long as they produce.

kadri will have lots of time to think about things if he doesnt smarten up and take whats being offered.

colborne is dying for a chance.. kadri would be smart not to give it to him.

- Dozzer

Ya Im pretty sure Kadri wont have to worry about Colborne replacing him.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 9 @ 1:53 PM ET
Ya Im pretty sure Kadri wont have to worry about Colborne replacing him.
- Fakepartofme



I thought the team was supposed to come first. Not these days.. Pay me NOW...
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Sep 9 @ 1:54 PM ET
Looked it up. Wrong type of push ups, but I will be eating there in the near future.. Tks.
- bixll


They have food?!
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 9 @ 1:55 PM ET
in the NHL? how? the leafs own his rights? the leafs would have to move him.

you arent making sense.

- Dozzer


He'd get an offer sheet at some point.

Franson is probably content with a 1 year deal because he's 2 years out from UFAgency and he can use his arb rights next year to control negotiations with the Leafs like Gunnar and Fraser did this year. The only real issue is how much he gets for this year.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Sep 9 @ 1:56 PM ET
Kadri has ninja like tactics... no rushing this guy.


- Captain_Quiffe


Except you missed where he says, "Jump, jump, jump - King me!"
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 9 @ 1:59 PM ET
Bet you wings and a beer next week, he does not sign ?
- bixll


i say before the beginning of the season... i cant narrow it down anymore than that

beer and wings is fine regardless of who pays tho lol
ShayneCorsi
Location: Teedot
Joined: 07.09.2012

Sep 9 @ 1:59 PM ET
Except you missed where he says, "Jump, jump, jump - King me!"
- Woderwick

Maybe if he was playing checkers.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 9 @ 2:00 PM ET
I love how this new generation of players in the NHL is killing the integrity of the sport with it's sense of entitlement and lack of desire to win.

They want to do well to get the yacht, not to win.

- markmark

Have you seen what has gone on in the league the couple of years?
They now have a Metropolitan division.......this league is a joke, it has no integrity.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Sep 9 @ 2:00 PM ET
Maybe if he was playing checkers.
- Captain_Quiffe


That was my point...he thinks he's playing checkers....
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 9 @ 2:01 PM ET
I thought the team was supposed to come first. Not these days.. Pay me NOW...
- bixll

Team first?
Uh?
This is pro sports...no one ever has that mentality.
scotch_tape
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: he's coming
Joined: 07.26.2012

Sep 9 @ 2:02 PM ET
in the NHL? how? the leafs own his rights? the leafs would have to move him.

you arent making sense.

- Dozzer


i understand the Leafs own his rights. but there is an endgame to every situation. an offer sheet is not out of the question. or Franson could demand a trade at which point the Leafs are likely to just cut their losses and get rid of the player. players orchestrate their way out of town all the time. this would be another in a long line of player-organization breakups. Leafs aren't going to declare war on this guy. they'll sign him up or eventually unload him.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 9 @ 2:02 PM ET
He'd get an offer sheet at some point.

Franson is probably content with a 1 year deal because he's 2 years out from UFAgency and he can use his arb rights next year to control negotiations with the Leafs like Gunnar and Fraser did this year. The only real issue is how much he gets for this year.

- The Law


perfect.. offer sheet away.. the compensation for the kind of money he wants would be more than fine by me.

the leafs have him over a barrel. they are willing to pay him a decent amount but not a horrendous one... for anyone wanting offer sheet him they will have to give him what he is looking for, which will put him into the high compensation range.

how many teams are willing to give up that many high end picks for a mid range d-man with some scoring skill?

my guess? not too many.. if any.
ShayneCorsi
Location: Teedot
Joined: 07.09.2012

Sep 9 @ 2:03 PM ET
That was my point...he thinks he's playing checkers....
- Woderwick

Oh... you made a funny! My bad... I'm on work mode right now.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 9 @ 2:03 PM ET
Ya Im pretty sure Kadri wont have to worry about Colborne replacing him.
- Fakepartofme


if he doesnt sign he opens the door.

and stranger poop has happened.

kadri has no leverage... just overhype from the toronto media last year.. thats it.
scotch_tape
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: he's coming
Joined: 07.26.2012

Sep 9 @ 2:03 PM ET
He'd get an offer sheet at some point.

Franson is probably content with a 1 year deal because he's 2 years out from UFAgency and he can use his arb rights next year to control negotiations with the Leafs like Gunnar and Fraser did this year. The only real issue is how much he gets for this year.

- The Law


what would happen if he just remains unsigned going into next offseason? any idea?
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 9 @ 2:04 PM ET
Subban, Del Zotto, Couturier, Boedker, Johansson, Chris Stewart, etc....

And guys like Couture and Duchene a couple of years ago. Quite a few guys do bridge deals. If they have the confidence that they will perform than it makes sense financially.

Most of the guys that got locked in to longer term after their rookie years are either superstars or play for teams that need to lock those players up (Edmonton, NJ, Clb, Wpg).

Even if the Leafs had the Cap space I'm not convinced they wouldn't be doing the exact same thing with Franson and Kadri. Kadri has too small of a resume and Franson elected not to pursue Arb for a reason.

Just a guess but it wouldn't surprise me if Franson and the Leafs are actually pretty close on a one year deal - it makes sense for both sides. They need Kadri to come to terms first.

- The Law


fair comparisons..thanks


Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 9 @ 2:04 PM ET
if he doesnt sign he opens the door.

and stranger poop has happened.

kadri has no leverage... just overhype from the toronto media last year.. thats it.

- Dozzer

Ya but colborne....well he's just no good.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Sep 9 @ 2:05 PM ET
Oh... you made a funny! My bad... I'm on work mode right now.
- Captain_Quiffe

I'll let it go this time.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Sep 9 @ 2:05 PM ET
Ya but colborne....well he's just no good.
- Fakepartofme

Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 9 @ 2:07 PM ET
perfect.. offer sheet away.. the compensation for the kind of money he wants would be more than fine by me.

the leafs have him over a barrel. they are willing to pay him a decent amount but not a horrendous one... for anyone wanting offer sheet him they will have to give him what he is looking for, which will put him into the high compensation range.

how many teams are willing to give up that many high end picks for a mid range d-man with some scoring skill?

my guess? not too many.. if any.

- Dozzer

Nah, he wants around 3.5, the leafs want him for under 3. If he were offered sheet, it would be for around 3.5 - 4....so it would be a mid 1st and a 3rd. The leafs wont let him go for that....I dont believe.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 9 @ 2:08 PM ET
what would happen if he just remains unsigned going into next offseason? any idea?
- scotch_tape


Not sure if that counts as a year of 'service'? Anybody know?
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 9 @ 2:08 PM ET
what would happen if he just remains unsigned going into next offseason? any idea?
- scotch_tape


he remains leafs property as a RFA
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Sep 9 @ 2:08 PM ET
Not sure if that counts as a year of 'service'? Anybody know?
- The Law


I wouldn't think so.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 9 @ 2:08 PM ET
Ya but colborne....well he's just no good.
- Fakepartofme


everyone said the same thing about kadri til he got a real shot
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