What does this mean, nobody wants to play in TO ?
- bixll

no. it means that a lot of the middle-tier NHL is overpaid regardless of where they play, and if you're not willing to overpay for players, you're not going to have any depth.

Sorry...Push-ups are standard uniform with the girls at Shoeless.
- Woderwick

Got cha.. Did not know this Shoeless place, But I will certainly look into it.

All he and his agent have to do is look at the comparables, is there one contract signed since the new CBA that help Nonis in his cause to sign them both for 2.5?
..so Subban. there are many others that dont help
- senstroll

Subban, Del Zotto, Couturier, Boedker, Johansson, Chris Stewart, etc....

And guys like Couture and Duchene a couple of years ago. Quite a few guys do bridge deals. If they have the confidence that they will perform than it makes sense financially.

Most of the guys that got locked in to longer term after their rookie years are either superstars or play for teams that need to lock those players up (Edmonton, NJ, Clb, Wpg).

Even if the Leafs had the Cap space I'm not convinced they wouldn't be doing the exact same thing with Franson and Kadri. Kadri has too small of a resume and Franson elected not to pursue Arb for a reason.

Just a guess but it wouldn't surprise me if Franson and the Leafs are actually pretty close on a one year deal - it makes sense for both sides. They need Kadri to come to terms first.

And, the Leafs still retain his rights, if he wants to play.. Or am I wrong ?
- bixll

yessir.

here is what i think is happening. franson is willing to play on the cheap for one more year only.. the leafs want two so they dont have to add him to an already lengthy list of FAs next summer.

my guess is franson signs on the cheap for a year in the end.. and the leafs move him by the deadline

What are these Kadri and weed references I've seen in a couple posts? Actual marijuana use or he's high for asking for the $/term that's been rumoured? Or both?

no. it means that a lot of the middle-tier NHL is overpaid regardless of where they play, and if you're not willing to overpay for players, you're not going to have any depth.
- scotch_tape

I love how this new generation of players in the NHL is killing the integrity of the sport with it's sense of entitlement and lack of desire to win.

They want to do well to get the yacht, not to win.

Subban, Del Zotto, Couturier, Boedker, Johansson, Chris Stewart, etc....

And guys like Couture and Duchene a couple of years ago. Quite a few guys do bridge deals. If they have the confidence that they will perform than it makes sense financially.

Most of the guys that got locked in to longer term after their rookie years are either superstars or play for teams that need to lock those players up (Edmonton, NJ, Clb, Wpg).

Even if the Leafs had the Cap space I'm not convinced they wouldn't be doing the exact same thing with Franson and Kadri. Kadri has too small of a resume and Franson elected not to pursue Arb for a reason.

Just a guess but it wouldn't surprise me if Franson and the Leafs are actually pretty close on a one year deal - it makes sense for both sides. They need Kadri to come to terms first.
- The Law

A man of common sense. We welcome you.

you'll know how consistent Ference is by October 8
- scotch_tape

I know what he brings. He's a quality vet. Happy to have him.

I love how this new generation of players in the NHL is killing the integrity of the sport with it's sense of entitlement and lack of desire to win.

They want to do well to get the yacht, not to win.
- markmark

Amen..

I bet Kadri signs a deal by the end of this week. The only reason he has not done so yet, is that he is using this as a way to avoid the fitness testing at the start of camp. Doesn't want any more coaches complaining about his body fat level on national tv.

I love how this new generation of players in the NHL is killing the integrity of the sport with it's sense of entitlement and lack of desire to win.

They want to do well to get the yacht, not to win.
- markmark

Common criticism of Gen Y'ers graduating into the work world...I read an article recently talkin gabout these kids have unrealistic salary demands coming out of school without earning it...sounds familiar.

yessir.

here is what i think is happening. franson is willing to play on the cheap for one more year only.. the leafs want two so they dont have to add him to an already lengthy list of FAs next summer.

my guess is franson signs on the cheap for a year in the end.. and the leafs move him by the deadline
- Dozzer

What about Kadri ?

I bet Kadri signs a deal by the end of this week. The only reason he has not done so yet, is that he is using this as a way to avoid the fitness testing at the start of camp. Doesn't want any more coaches complaining about his body fat level on national tv.
- vermie22

but
too

because he's a leaf
- Garnie

Ah yes... of course.

Hhhmmmm would he still have to do that anyways. I swear if he shows up to camp out of shape I ll complain on the Internet to people I don't know.
- Yeti1181

Lmao

A man of common sense. We welcome you.
- bixll

Smell's like Leaf-hate in here ....must be hockey season soon!

What are these Kadri and weed references I've seen in a couple posts? Actual marijuana use or he's high for asking for the $/term that's been rumoured? Or both?
- Deeps27

he's from komoka

of course he smokes potl ol

so whats his options? europe? the khl?

his options are to end his nhl career or play ball.

those are his options.

the leafs do not need point producing d-men.. if anything they have too many.
- Dozzer

i promise you his career would continue somewhere else.

I love how this new generation of players in the NHL is killing the integrity of the sport with it's sense of entitlement and lack of desire to win.

They want to do well to get the yacht, not to win.
- markmark

How is that happening?

What about Kadri ?
- bixll

i expect he will be signed before camp.. him and his agent are playing the waiting game... they have a date set where they will fold already.. i'd put money on it.

kadri has not proven enough to sit out. he will only hurt his value in doing so

Like at Shoeless Joes?!
- Woderwick

Looked it up. Wrong type of push ups, but I will be eating there in the near future.. Tks.

Kadri has ninja like tactics... no rushing this guy.

How is that happening?
- Canada Cup

Kadri is on a yatch right now

i promise you his career would continue somewhere else.
- scotch_tape

in the NHL? how? the leafs own his rights? the leafs would have to move him.

you arent making sense.

i expect he will be signed before camp.. him and his agent are playing the waiting game... they have a date set where they will fold already.. i'd put money on it.
kadri has not proven enough to sit out. he will only hurt his value in doing so
- Dozzer

Bet you wings and a beer next week, he does not sign ?