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Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Sep 9 @ 1:13 PM ET
I think Kadri should use his time off to learn to put the bong down and maybe learn the art of the "push up"..
- bixll


Like at Shoeless Joes?!
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 9 @ 1:14 PM ET
Hell. I need to be paid!!

Whatever is left with the salary cap, give Kadri 45% and give Franson 55%, each with a two year deal. They should be able to get their big raise, in a year or so.

- PrinceLH


the little money left in the leafs cap should not come into consideration, its not for Kadri and Franson to manage.

senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 9 @ 1:17 PM ET
I was saying they didn't deserved to get paid. Just not 4 or 5 million dollars per year. I find it arrogant for him to ask when he has not even played a full season in the NHL..
- bixll



All he and his agent have to do is look at the comparables, is there one contract signed since the new CBA that help Nonis in his cause to sign them both for 2.5?
..so Subban. there are many others that dont help
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 9 @ 1:17 PM ET
oh i dont care if guys smoke weed.. not one bit. so long as they produce.

kadri will have lots of time to think about things if he doesnt smarten up and take whats being offered.

colborne is dying for a chance.. kadri would be smart not to give it to him.

- Dozzer



I don't care if he smokes it either, if he can be the player that he wants to be paid like.. But he is not that player yet. He had 5 pretty goals, that may have hit the highlight real. Is he supposed to get 1 million per pretty goal. I would rather him score 35 or 40 that were not so flashy, then he gets his lottery win.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 9 @ 1:18 PM ET
That's kind of where I am on this. We have seen glimpses (maybe more from Franson) of what we think these guys are becoming. It would be prudent to do short term deals for both of them. This would also give the players an opportunity to prove themselves before becoming FAs and have them do so at a time when there is more money to be had around the league.

Management has the hammer and the players would be idiots if they sit out for any period of time.

- Canada Cup


i see both scenarios playing out very similar to subban last season.

once the player and agent realize the club is willing to move on without them.. then they will pick up that pen and sign.. just you watch.

kinda hoping franson holds out for a couple games.. let rielly stay up for 9 without burning a year of the ELC
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 9 @ 1:19 PM ET
Like at Shoeless Joes?!
- Woderwick



??

I would like to see him get in great physical shape, before he demands 5 mill per.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 9 @ 1:20 PM ET
i see both scenarios playing out very similar to subban last season.

once the player and agent realize the club is willing to move on without them.. then they will pick up that pen and sign.. just you watch.

kinda hoping franson holds out for a couple games.. let rielly stay up for 9 without burning a year of the ELC

- Dozzer



I hope they both hold and it bites both of them in the bumhole.
AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.14.2010

Sep 9 @ 1:22 PM ET
Dion to CGY


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Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 9 @ 1:24 PM ET
i see both scenarios playing out very similar to subban last season.

once the player and agent realize the club is willing to move on without them.. then they will pick up that pen and sign.. just you watch.

kinda hoping franson holds out for a couple games.. let rielly stay up for 9 without burning a year of the ELC

- Dozzer



Management needs to decide if they want to try to lock either of them up long term. If so, other moves are needed. My guess is Nonis is willing to take his chances on two yrs for each of them
AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.14.2010

Sep 9 @ 1:26 PM ET
Management needs to decide if they want to try to lock either of them up long term. If so, other moves are needed. My guess is Nonis is willing to take his chances on two yrs for each of them
- Canada Cup


Doubt Franson settles for less than 3
AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.14.2010

Sep 9 @ 1:26 PM ET


kinda hoping franson holds out for a couple games.. let rielly stay up for 9 without burning a year of the ELC

- Dozzer


Didn't they change that to 5-6 games with the new CBA?
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 9 @ 1:27 PM ET
I don't care if he smokes it either, if he can be the player that he wants to be paid like.. But he is not that player yet. He had 5 pretty goals, that may have hit the highlight real. Is he supposed to get 1 million per pretty goal. I would rather him score 35 or 40 that were not so flashy, then he gets his lottery win.
- bixll


yeah.. i also bear in mind that we dont really know the truth here.

kadri hasnt exactly endeared himself to the media through this.. so obviously what we're hearing is weighted against him
scotch_tape
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: he's coming
Joined: 07.26.2012

Sep 9 @ 1:27 PM ET
That has nothing to so with my example of a consistent dman who makes less than 4



- robin_steele264


you'll know how consistent Ference is by October 8
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 9 @ 1:27 PM ET
Didn't they change that to 5-6 games with the new CBA?
- AngryWhiteMale


i think that was just for the shortened season
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 9 @ 1:28 PM ET
you'll know how consistent Ference is by October 8
- scotch_tape


komisarek.. i'd stop laughing if i were you.
Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Sep 9 @ 1:29 PM ET
Doubt Franson settles for less than 3
- AngryWhiteMale

...and shouldn't
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 9 @ 1:30 PM ET
Doubt Franson settles for less than 3
- AngryWhiteMale


he will enjoy sitting then.. or europe
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 9 @ 1:30 PM ET
...and shouldn't
- Barx


lol he has no leverage.. none.. zip... nadda.

is he worth more? sure.. will he get it? not a chance.

scotch_tape
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: he's coming
Joined: 07.26.2012

Sep 9 @ 1:31 PM ET
and he is also overpaid

trade them before overpaying.. in the end.. you're far better off.

- Dozzer


if you're not willing to overpay players, your lineup will be devoid of second and third liners.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 9 @ 1:31 PM ET
he will enjoy sitting then.. or europe
- Dozzer



And, the Leafs still retain his rights, if he wants to play.. Or am I wrong ?
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 9 @ 1:31 PM ET
if you're not willing to overpay players, your lineup will be devoid of second and third liners.
- scotch_tape



What does this mean, nobody wants to play in TO ?
scotch_tape
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: he's coming
Joined: 07.26.2012

Sep 9 @ 1:37 PM ET
lol he has no leverage.. none.. zip... nadda.

is he worth more? sure.. will he get it? not a chance.

- Dozzer


doesn't have much leverage but has enough leverage to give him options. if we've learned one thing about NHLers, it's that they're willing to stand up for their cause, even if it means cash out of pocket.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 9 @ 1:38 PM ET
if you're not willing to overpay players, your lineup will be devoid of second and third liners.
- scotch_tape


yeah.. i'm okay with that. let the kids play in their place.. cut this inflation down.

not every second liner asks for 5 plus ya know
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 9 @ 1:39 PM ET
doesn't have much leverage but has enough leverage to give him options. if we've learned one thing about NHLers, it's that they're willing to stand up for their cause, even if it means cash out of pocket.
- scotch_tape


so whats his options? europe? the khl?

his options are to end his nhl career or play ball.

those are his options.

the leafs do not need point producing d-men.. if anything they have too many.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Sep 9 @ 1:40 PM ET
??

I would like to see him get in great physical shape, before he demands 5 mill per.

- bixll


Sorry...Push-ups are standard uniform with the girls at Shoeless.
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