no.. he really hasnt

he's proven himself to be inconsistent defensively with some flashes of offense

he hasnt proven jack all
- Dozzer

The problem is that there way too many examples of RFA players being signed to longer term big $$ contracts solely based on potential. The signings where players get what they have "earned" based on what they have "proven" seem rare.

For a laugh..... Posted in another thread regarding if rielly played last night:

No, they held him out. Did not want him to go against Ottawa (nothing to prove was the comment).
- spatso

franson has shown flashes but not consistency. he still isnt great defensively (getting better but not great yet)

still not the most mobile skater.. has a great release to his shot and thats how he generates most of his production.

a good release is not worth a couple additional million. i'm with the leafs on this one.
- Dozzer

And, he wants 4 milly

And, he wants 4 milly
- bixll

the consistent dmen are few and far between, and they make a lot more than $4 million.

the consistent dmen are few and far between, and they make a lot more than $4 million.
- scotch_tape

Thanks just a sad statement.

so what is the story with matt rupert? I know the Leafs drafted Ryan two years ago, but Matt remains undrafted. I realize that they are both similar players, and on the small side of things, and would be long shots to ever make the team, but you can't deny they have chemistry together.

Thanks just a sad statement.
- bixll

i think we tend to overuse the term "inconsistent" as fans.

i think we tend to overuse the term "inconsistent" as fans.
- scotch_tape

For 4 milly, I feel you should be pretty damn consistent.

the consistent dmen are few and far between, and they make a lot more than $4 million.
- scotch_tape

Ference - 3.25

Ference - 3.25



- robin_steele264

Braggart.

Ference - 3.25



- robin_steele264

And, Franny wants more.

For 4 milly, I feel you should be pretty damn consistent.
- bixll

but IMO, only the best players in the league are truly consistent, going out there and getting the job done on most of their shifts.

but IMO, only the best players in the league are truly consistent, going out there and getting the job done on most of their shifts.
- scotch_tape

Really doesn't follow the definition of consistent. I understand what you mean however.

I just think that 4 mill is a lot to pay a 3-4 d man. If he is that guy. The teams today toss around great money to some, that leave you scratching your head, and will not pay others that you want to get paid..

Ference - 3.25



- robin_steele264

right. both second-pairing guys, both pretty one-dimensional. but Franson is heading into his prime while Ference is hitting an age where he's declining.

Really doesn't follow the definition of consistent. I understand what you mean however.

I just think that 4 mill is a lot to pay a 3-4 d man. If he is that guy. The teams today toss around great money to some, that leave you scratching your head, and will not pay others that you want to get paid..
- bixll

it is a lot. and it's only going to get worse once the cap starts to rise again next summer.

leaf fans still trying to show that Kadri and Franson do not deserve to be paid?

right. both second-pairing guys, both pretty one-dimensional. but Franson is heading into his prime while Ference is hitting an age where he's declining.
- scotch_tape

That has nothing to so with my example of a consistent dman who makes less than 4

That has nothing to so with my example of a consistent dman who makes less than 4



- robin_steele264

does chara come with him?

leaf fans still trying to show that Kadri and Franson do not deserve to be paid?
- senstroll

Hell. I need to be paid!!

Whatever is left with the salary cap, give Kadri 45% and give Franson 55%, each with a two year deal. They should be able to get their big raise, in a year or so.

does chara come with him?
- senstroll

That would be nice.


Even if they continued to never play together

leaf fans still trying to show that Kadri and Franson do not deserve to be paid?
- senstroll

I was saying they didn't deserved to get paid. Just not 4 or 5 million dollars per year. I find it arrogant for him to ask when he has not even played a full season in the NHL..

so leading the team in D scoring proves nothing? Phaneuf is inconsistent defensively. a lot of veteran players are.
- scotch_tape

and he is also overpaid

trade them before overpaying.. in the end.. you're far better off.

and he is also overpaid

trade them before overpaying.. in the end.. you're far better off.
- Dozzer

I think Kadri should use his time off to learn to put the bong down and maybe learn the art of the "push up"..

I think Kadri should use his time off to learn to put the bong down and maybe learn the art of the "push up"..
- bixll

oh i dont care if guys smoke weed.. not one bit. so long as they produce.

kadri will have lots of time to think about things if he doesnt smarten up and take whats being offered.

colborne is dying for a chance.. kadri would be smart not to give it to him.

The problem is that there way too many examples of RFA players being signed to longer term big $$ contracts solely based on potential. The signings where players get what they have "earned" based on what they have "proven" seem rare.
- vermie22

That's kind of where I am on this. We have seen glimpses (maybe more from Franson) of what we think these guys are becoming. It would be prudent to do short term deals for both of them. This would also give the players an opportunity to prove themselves before becoming FAs and have them do so at a time when there is more money to be had around the league.

Management has the hammer and the players would be idiots if they sit out for any period of time.