Feaster will have someone to slap some sense into him now when he mentions stupid moves he wants to do

And let's be honest here. He didn't build a contender in Toronto.

He tried to fast track the rebuild and instead of building a contender, he built a team that will struggle to make the playoffs every season for the forseeable future.

On top of that, they have next to no prospects whatsoever. In pretty much every publication they are constantly ranked in the bottom 1/3 of the league when it comes to prospects.

Ok, he 'built' a playoff team. A playoff team with next to no cap space and no prospects.

Guys.. I said he's overrated.. not terrible. Huge difference. Think of an overrated player. They are still average to good players..

I'm pointing out why he is overrated. Not why he is bad.

If you had to rank GMs in the past decade, I would rank him somewhere around the average. Not great, but not terrible.

He is overrated
1. because in his first NHL job, he didn't realize that Dan Cloutier wasn't going to take the Nucks anywhere. Listen to interviews he gave during that time and how highly he talked of Cloutier. The guy sucked.. plain and simple.
2. his Stanley cup win wasn't a team he groomed for 5-10 years before that. He was handed the majority of that team.
3. he did set the leafs back. He made a bad trade with Boston. He made a few bad signings. Grabo had to be bought out this summer cause he was massively overpaid. He also spoke of 'truculence' and brought in tough players, then decided to hire a coach who didn't coach that style. An average GM could have done the same thing with the Leafs over the same time span that Burke had with them.
- Charliebox

1. That wasn't his first NHL job.
2. Show me a GM who does get to groom a team for 10-15 years before winning a cup. It almost never happens.
3. I'd make that Boston trade again.

As a flames fan this is exactly what the flames need. As of now the top 2 managment team members are a newspaper guy and a lawyer. Throw in Edwards the oil tycoon and not much hockey knowledge to be had.

My only problem is that Burke is a top notch GM and more than likely Feaster will still be the GM. Not sure why the flames would want a bottom feeder GM in place, when they can have a top 5 GM instead?

hmmm. I wonder what he can get for Stajan.

I feel BB's good for the NHL. Not saying I or anyone always agree with him, but he's candid and a breath of fresh air. I wasn't a huge Brett Hull fan, but he too spoke his mind. Sometimes to his detriment, but it's better than the typical safe, politically correct talk from the vast majority of players/coaches/GMs.

Isn't that right, Brooksie?

So I was thinking about my point that the Leafs don't have much for prospects.

Here's Burke's drafting history.
5 years in Van - Sedins and Kessler
2 years with Anaheim - Bobby Ryan and Smid
Toronto - Schenn and Kadri.

That's it!

Go look through these teams drafting history. The Sedins were 2nd and 3rd overall, so outside the good trade he made... pretty much can't miss selections.
Bobby Ryan was 2nd overall, so again, can't miss.
Kadri was a good pick.
Schenn.. well whatever.

He has no good late first rounders, 2nd rounders or even late round steals. The guy drafted in the NHL for over a decade and outside his top 10 picks, he's had TWO players become everyday NHL players. That is brutal.

You can say all you want that it's more on the scouts than it is on the GM, but at the end of the day, he's the boss of the scouts. It also happened in 3 different cities so to blame the scouts is a bit rich.

I hope to god that Calgary isn't banking on him on draft day.

So I was thinking about my point that the Leafs don't have much for prospects.

Here's Burke's drafting history.
5 years in Van - Sedins and Kessler
2 years with Anaheim - Bobby Ryan and Smid
Toronto - Schenn and Kadri.

That's it!

Go look through these teams drafting history. The Sedins were 2nd and 3rd overall, so outside, the good trade he made... pretty much can't miss selections.
Bobby Ryan was 2nd overall, so again, can't miss.
Kadri was a good pick.
Schenn.. well whatever.

He has no good late first rounders, 2nd rounders or even late round steals. The guy drafted in the NHL for over a decade and outside his top 10 picks, he's had TWO players become everyday NHL players. That is brutal.

You can say all you want that it's more on the scouts than it is on the GM, but at the end of the day, he's the boss of the scouts. It also happened in 3 different cities so to blame the scouts is a bit rich.

I hope to god that Calgary isn't banking on him on draft day.
- Charliebox

Morgan Rielly? One of the best defense prospects in the league? Seriously, do your research.

Late draft picks take a lot longer to develop so it's unfair to say that he didn't draft anyone past the first round who has become an NHL regular. How many guys drafted outside of the first round even see an NHL ice surface a year or two after being drafted? Or even three? Come on.

I'm sure everyone misses those long press conferences that he held just to hear himself talk and to be on camera.

That does so much to improve hockey

So I was thinking about my point that the Leafs don't have much for prospects.

Here's Burke's drafting history.
5 years in Van - Sedins and Kessler
2 years with Anaheim - Bobby Ryan and Smid
Toronto - Schenn and Kadri.

That's it!

Go look through these teams drafting history. The Sedins were 2nd and 3rd overall, so outside the good trade he made... pretty much can't miss selections.
Bobby Ryan was 2nd overall, so again, can't miss.
Kadri was a good pick.
Schenn.. well whatever.

He has no good late first rounders, 2nd rounders or even late round steals. The guy drafted in the NHL for over a decade and outside his top 10 picks, he's had TWO players become everyday NHL players. That is brutal.

You can say all you want that it's more on the scouts than it is on the GM, but at the end of the day, he's the boss of the scouts. It also happened in 3 different cities so to blame the scouts is a bit rich.

I hope to god that Calgary isn't banking on him on draft day.
- Charliebox

"There is no skill in drafting" - B toda Rian Burke

And let's be honest here. He didn't build a contender in Toronto.

He tried to fast track the rebuild and instead of building a contender, he built a team that will struggle to make the playoffs every season for the forseeable future.

On top of that, they have next to no prospects whatsoever. In pretty much every publication they are constantly ranked in the bottom 1/3 of the league when it comes to prospects.

Ok, he 'built' a playoff team. A playoff team with next to no cap space and no prospects.
- Charliebox

Your missing one important fact. He had nothing to work with. The Leafs roster had the youngest average age, of any playoff team. They are still a very young team and have some elite level players. Where did Burke get them? Through the trade market. JFJ left him next to nothing to work with. Fast track? I'd say that he was able to get the same pieces through trade, then he'd have received through the draft. Some teams wait a decade, trying to draft in the top 5, with poor results. At least Burke left some tangible young talent.....see Gardiner, Kessel, JVR, Phaneuf, Bozak, Kadri, Lupul. Also notice that only Kadri was a draft pick. He didn't have to give much away, outside of the Kessel deal, to stock his team. Even that deal has evened out, over time.

Morgan Rielly? One of the best defense prospects in the league? Seriously, do your research.
- Jeffmt

Prospect!

Also, in the top 10.

Again, he drafted for over a decade.. where's all these guys in the NHL drafted by Brian Burke?

Do my research? Go check it out for yourself. It's pretty easy.

Burkies career can be explained in two words. SLUMP BUSTER. That's right he is that fat ugly whore that takes you out of the slumps and and makes you strart feeling good about yourself.

Enjoy the ride Calgary . You are about to get screwed ,so sit back and watch your life turn around.

Maybe he could get some rugby players on skates. That'll help beat up some other teams at least!
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/...y-canada-brian-burke.html

Prospect!

Also, in the top 10.

Again, he drafted for over a decade.. where's all these guys in the NHL drafted by Brian Burke?

Do my research? Go check it out for yourself. It's pretty easy.
- Charliebox

You can't fault a guy for drafting well early in the first round. That's where most teams get their best players. It doesn't matter how he drafts in the later rounds because he's very good at rounding out the rest of the team with great trades. Why would I care if he can find a third liner in the second round when he's flipping Lebda for Franson or Beauchemin for Lupul and Gardiner? I get that it's really convenient for you to ignore his trade record.

Prospect!

Also, in the top 10.

Again, he drafted for over a decade.. where's all these guys in the NHL drafted by Brian Burke?

Do my research? Go check it out for yourself. It's pretty easy.
- Charliebox

As long as he keeps AGM Weisbrod the flames will be fine in drafting.

Burke was a good GM, glad to see him
back with a team. Calgary is going to rebuild

I know some die hard flames fans. some since 1980 they will hate the flames immediatly! Burke is a big mouth douche perfect fit for the flames. I personally will go back to hating the flames the most( canucks had the honor for last 5 years or so)

Burkies career can be explained in two words. SLUMP BUSTER. That's right he is that fat ugly whore that takes you out of the slumps and and makes you strart feeling good about yourself.

Enjoy the ride Calgary . You are about to get screwed ,so sit back and watch your life turn around.
- VANTEL

Maybe you should follow who is in charge in Calgary as of right now. Are you trying to tell me that Feaster is better than Burke? Are you trying to say that Ken King has more hockey knowledge than Burke?

Maybe you should follow who is in charge in Calgary as of right now. Are you trying to tell me that Feaster is better than Burke? Are you trying to say that Ken King has more hockey knowledge than Burke?
- nigelwright275

I am saying when teams hit rock bottom they hire Slump Buster Burke. Canucks Leafs and Ducks all did it.

The Flames are the new rock bottom so he will come in for a few years and change things.

Maybe you should follow who is in charge in Calgary as of right now. Are you trying to tell me that Feaster is better than Burke? Are you trying to say that Ken King has more hockey knowledge than Burke?
- nigelwright275

Who is your favorite team?

You can't fault a guy for drafting well early in the first round. That's where most teams get their best players. It doesn't matter how he drafts in the later rounds because he's very good at rounding out the rest of the team with great trades. Why would I care if he can find a third liner in the second round when he's flipping Lebda for Franson or Beauchemin for Lupul and Gardiner? I get that it's really convenient for you to ignore his trade record.
- Jeffmt

I'm not faulting him for drafting well in the early first round. My point is that outside top 10 picks, he's got a brutal record.

Let's be honest here. The majority of top 10 picks make the NHL. You could just go with the TSN rankings and get a solid NHLer when you're picking in the top 10.

The guys from 15-30, not as much. He's had plenty of late first rounders and 2nd round picks. You'd think that, over a decade, he'd have at least a few turn out. None.

Seriously, go check it out for yourself. Hockey db has all the teams draft history.

So I was thinking about my point that the Leafs don't have much for prospects.

Here's Burke's drafting history.
5 years in Van - Sedins and Kessler
2 years with Anaheim - Bobby Ryan and Smid
Toronto - Schenn and Kadri.

That's it!

Go look through these teams drafting history. The Sedins were 2nd and 3rd overall, so outside the good trade he made... pretty much can't miss selections.
Bobby Ryan was 2nd overall, so again, can't miss.
Kadri was a good pick.
Schenn.. well whatever.

He has no good late first rounders, 2nd rounders or even late round steals. The guy drafted in the NHL for over a decade and outside his top 10 picks, he's had TWO players become everyday NHL players. That is brutal.

You can say all you want that it's more on the scouts than it is on the GM, but at the end of the day, he's the boss of the scouts. It also happened in 3 different cities so to blame the scouts is a bit rich.

I hope to god that Calgary isn't banking on him on draft day.
- Charliebox

Burke didn't draft Schenn, Fletcher did.

Burke also didn't hire Wilson, that was a Fletcher senior moment as well

Burke didn't draft Schenn, Fletcher did.

Burke also didn't hire Wilson, that was a Fletcher senior moment as well
- claude1971

Whoops, my bad.

I also forgot.. he drafted Umberger in the late first round..

I'm not faulting him for drafting well in the early first round. My point is that outside top 10 picks, he's got a brutal record.

Let's be honest here. The majority of top 10 picks make the NHL. You could just go with the TSN rankings and get a solid NHLer when you're picking in the top 10.

The guys from 15-30, not as much. He's had plenty of late first rounders and 2nd round picks. You'd think that, over a decade, he'd have at least a few turn out. None.

Seriously, go check it out for yourself. Hockey db has all the teams draft history.
- Charliebox

My point is that it doesn't really matter. You're talking about drafting bottom six players. I think his trade record more than makes up for any deficiencies in later round drafting. No one really knows how to draft outside of the top half of the first round, it's a complete crap shoot. With the exception of Detroit I guess, whenever a team scores on a player late in the first round and beyond it was primarily because of luck. At that point you're betting on raw talents and "maybes" and it rarely works out for anyone. Look at the odds of a second round pick becoming an impact player. I'm sure you can list off a bunch of good players from the second round but that's ignoring the exponentially longer list of guys who never see the NHL.