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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Sep 4 @ 11:43 AM ET
I believe they will be locally here in London, but other than that not sure.
- Colin Dambrauskas


Looks like it may be on LeafsTV.
doinktheclown
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: DO NOT FEED THE GARTHS!
Joined: 08.01.2013

Sep 4 @ 11:45 AM ET
50,000
- robin_steele264


i'll take the over
Mr_Smokey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.02.2008

Sep 4 @ 11:52 AM ET
Kadri gets the Subban bridge contract topping out at 3 mil/season and that has to be where it ends for the Leafs.. I can't see the management team giving into his demands or signing him to a long term deal on such a small sample. Either way it's all posturing until camp opens then he will sweat it out.

Franson is a bit tougher to determine... definitely not worth 4 per season but 3.5 X 3? Sure.

The Leafs need to make cap space though no matter what Poulin is trying to convince us of.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Sep 4 @ 11:57 AM ET
And to think of all the heart ache from some around here over gunnerson. At 3mil.
- burn


So you think the two are comparable?
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 4 @ 12:00 PM ET
So you think the two are comparable?
- golfingsince

Did Esplen just get canned? Cordell saying he's now covering the Canucks
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 4 @ 12:02 PM ET
Kadri gets the Subban bridge contract topping out at 3 mil/season and that has to be where it ends for the Leafs.. I can't see the management team giving into his demands or signing him to a long term deal on such a small sample. Either way it's all posturing until camp opens then he will sweat it out.

Franson is a bit tougher to determine... definitely not worth 4 per season but 3.5 X 3? Sure.

The Leafs need to make cap space though no matter what Poulin is trying to convince us of.

- Mr_Smokey


here's the beauty of the situation

the only leverage these guys have is what they bring to the team. other than that.. they have nothing, nadda, zippo. they are negotiating from a point of weakness.

all the leafs have to do is shrug their shoulders and say.. ok.. we'll go forward without ya.. enjoy sitting or europe.

end of negotiations.
Dozzer
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Sep 4 @ 12:05 PM ET
Did Esplen just get canned? Cordell saying he's now covering the Canucks
- AdamFrench


guys keep on getting promoted over your head
golfingsince
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Sep 4 @ 12:05 PM ET
Did Esplen just get canned? Cordell saying he's now covering the Canucks
- AdamFrench


I kinda always thought he was Clouts. Surprised me they didn't leave at the same time.
Dozzer
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 4 @ 12:06 PM ET
And to think of all the heart ache from some around here over gunnerson. At 3mil.
- burn




i cannot fathom why people thought that was a bad contract

EVERYBODY MUST BE AN ALLSTAR OR YOU MAKE LEAGUE MINIMUM

I swear some people think like that.
Mr_Smokey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.02.2008

Sep 4 @ 12:07 PM ET
here's the beauty of the situation

the only leverage these guys have is what they bring to the team. other than that.. they have nothing, nadda, zippo. they are negotiating from a point of weakness.

all the leafs have to do is shrug their shoulders and say.. ok.. we'll go forward without ya.. enjoy sitting or europe.

end of negotiations.

- Dozzer


Oh for sure... and they're good players and could be very good players for the Leafs this season but lets all be honest folks neither is going to be a big difference maker this year.
golfingsince
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Sep 4 @ 12:07 PM ET
Did Esplen just get canned? Cordell saying he's now covering the Canucks
- AdamFrench


He said assist, 2 Nucks bloggers?
vermie22
Joined: 07.13.2011

Sep 4 @ 12:08 PM ET
here's the beauty of the situation

the only leverage these guys have is what they bring to the team. other than that.. they have nothing, nadda, zippo. they are negotiating from a point of weakness.

all the leafs have to do is shrug their shoulders and say.. ok.. we'll go forward without ya.. enjoy sitting or europe.

end of negotiations.

- Dozzer


until an offer sheet is signed.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
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Sep 4 @ 12:08 PM ET
Oh for sure... and they're good players and could be very good players for the Leafs this season but lets all be honest folks neither is going to be a big difference maker this year.
- Mr_Smokey


hell.. even if they would be difference makers they are simply not in a position to demand anything if Nonis has the brass to go forward without them

if Nonis stands strong.. they either sit, or take whats offered. there is nothing more to it. The only way they get more is if Nonis folds for whatever reason.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 4 @ 12:09 PM ET
He said assist, 2 Nucks bloggers?
- golfingsince

I guess
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 4 @ 12:09 PM ET
So you think the two are comparable?
- golfingsince




Gunnerson puts up nealy double the pts and plays against the other teams top players.

And makes a mil less, I'd say he's a bargain
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Sep 4 @ 12:10 PM ET
until an offer sheet is signed.
- vermie22


thing is.. in order for him to be signed away the salary would have to be high enough where first round picks become involved.

actually for both him and franson

so yeah.. you wont see an offer sheet
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 4 @ 12:11 PM ET
anyone who still thinks that kadri hasn't shown enough to prove he has the potential to be a number one center is just plain silly.
consistency, confidence, defensive awareness all come with maturity/time.....unfortunately, with his whining and frustration shown through various interviews and tweets,kadri has once again proven maturity is not one of his strong points.

- Barx

Yes, he has shown all of that over a period of almost two months
So he must be able to do it all the time!

Oh no...nevermind....he didn't last year.
doinktheclown
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 08.01.2013

Sep 4 @ 12:13 PM ET
So you think the two are comparable?
- golfingsince


Gunnarsson = 75% of Hjalmarsson. i have no problems with it.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 4 @ 12:14 PM ET
Yes, he has shown all of that over a period of almost two months
So he must be able to do it all the time!

Oh no...nevermind....he didn't last year.

- Fakepartofme


kadri hasnt proven poop

he got the majority of his points while his legs were in midseason form and when the veterans of the league caught up conditioning wise kadri's production tallied right off.

he needs to prove he can do it when everyone is starting from the same spot.
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Sep 4 @ 12:16 PM ET
I like the Chicago signing of Niklas Hjalmarsson worth $20.5 million over 5yrs.

Good for the leafs as I see him and Franson in the same catagory for D-men.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 4 @ 12:17 PM ET
kadri hasnt proven poop

he got the majority of his points while his legs were in midseason form and when the veterans of the league caught up conditioning wise kadri's production tallied right off.

he needs to prove he can do it when everyone is starting from the same spot.

- Dozzer

Oh I agree.
I must not have put the sarcasm font on my previous post.
I completely agree Kadri hasn't proven crap!

Well except that he is pretty good on the shoot out.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
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Sep 4 @ 12:18 PM ET
Oh I agree.
I must not have put the sarcasm font on my previous post.
I completely agree Kadri hasn't proven crap!

Well except that he is pretty good on the shoot out.

- Fakepartofme


oh sorry.. i knew you agreed.. i was only trying to reinforce your point
vermie22
Joined: 07.13.2011

Sep 4 @ 12:20 PM ET
Oh I agree.
I must not have put the sarcasm font on my previous post.
I completely agree Kadri hasn't proven crap!

Well except that he is pretty good on the shoot out.

- Fakepartofme


not so much last year, only Bozak was able to pot one. Luckily they only had 2 or 3 on the whole.
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Sep 4 @ 12:22 PM ET
Oh I agree.
I must not have put the sarcasm font on my previous post.
I completely agree Kadri hasn't proven crap!

Well except that he is pretty good on the shoot out.

- Fakepartofme

He's awful in shootouts.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 4 @ 12:22 PM ET
I like the Chicago signing of Niklas Hjalmarsson worth $20.5 million over 5yrs.

Good for the leafs as I see him and Franson in the same catagory for D-men.

- zazzle


not even.. Hjalmarsson actually plays this season for 3.5million.. his 7th contractual season. the 4.1million figure you are talking about doesnt start til AFTER next season

which is where franson should be roughly, at 3.5million. he is just now heading into his 7th season.
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