I'm not sure he'd be cool with only signing for a half year. Good $$ though.
- jmatchett383

Basically plays half the year so he should be okay with it.

Kadri for 4 years at 4 Million would be fine with me, and with clever cap wiggling sign Franson for 1/2 years at 2.5.
- PotvinFan

i think Franson is looking at the Gunnarsson deal and saying "i should get a slightly better deal"

If Kadri wants to play for Toronto so badly and it is important to him to attend camp, then I don't understand why he doesn't just sign a bridge contract. They have offered him a perfectly viable bridge contract and he also has to understand the cap situation. It's his own fault if he is not willing to take that offer. It just makes him look greedy, especially if he expects to get more per season than they have in cap space. 6 years at 5 mil per would force the Leafs to make a trade to get under the cap, which they might not be able to do, not to mention it would not allow them to even consider signing Franson. Kadri and Franson should both just take 1 year deals at 2.4 mil and wait til next year to land big contracts when the cap goes back up.

If Kadri wants to play for Toronto so badly and it is important to him to attend camp, then I don't understand why he doesn't just sign a bridge contract. They have offered him a perfectly viable bridge contract and he also has to understand the cap situation. It's his own fault if he is not willing to take that offer. It just makes him look greedy, especially if he expects to get more per season than they have in cap space. 6 years at 5 mil per would force the Leafs to make a trade to get under the cap, which they might not be able to do, not to mention it would not allow them to even consider signing Franson. Kadri and Franson should both just take 1 year deals at 2.4 mil and wait til next year to land big contracts when the cap goes back up.
- Jpop281

1) we have no idea what they have offered him.
2) the cap situation is absolutely none of his concern, nor should it be.

Kadri for 4 years at 4 Million would be fine with me, and with clever cap wiggling sign Franson for 1/2 years at 2.5.
- PotvinFan

You run the risk of him walking for mega bucks as a ufa on a 4 year deal

1) we have no idea what they have offered him.
2) the cap situation is absolutely none of his concern, nor should it be.
- scotch_tape

There are players all throughout the league who take less to ease their team's cap issues. The most shining example is Sidney Crosby, who could have asked for the moon and gotten it. Like the poster said, if it's really that important to play for the Leafs, he could do them a small favor and only make several millions of dollars instead of more millions of dollars. I know he'd be hard set to feed his family and all, but take the millions of dollars for 1 year, and if you play like you're expected to, then you make more millions of dollars.

The thing is, if you sign Kadri now to 3 million, and he puts up 70-80 points next year, he's going to want 6-6.5 mill. Book it.
- systemtool

id rather that than the flip side of him having a terrible year and have 5 years left above 5 mil

if the leafs lock up kadri long term now, then kessel long term next year

our top 6 is guaranteed
lupul bozak kessel
clarkson kadri ?

everyone has long term deals! you couldnt shake things up if you wanted to

There are players all throughout the league who take less to ease their team's cap issues. The most shining example is Sidney Crosby, who could have asked for the moon and gotten it. Like the poster said, if it's really that important to play for the Leafs, he could do them a small favor and only make several millions of dollars instead of more millions of dollars. I know he'd be hard set to feed his family and all, but take the millions of dollars for 1 year, and if you play like you're expected to, then you make more millions of dollars.
- jmatchett383

Crosby is not a good example when you make 100 million whats and extra 10 million to yea not to much its not going to sling him into a whole other level of rich.

id rather that than the flip side of him having a terrible year and have 5 years left above 5 mil

if the leafs lock up kadri long term now, then kessel long term next year

our top 6 is guaranteed
lupul bozak kessel
clarkson kadri ?

everyone has long term deals! you couldnt shake things up if you wanted to
- nightmare3020

Jvr?

id rather that than the flip side of him having a terrible year and have 5 years left above 5 mil

if the leafs lock up kadri long term now, then kessel long term next year

our top 6 is guaranteed
lupul bozak kessel
clarkson kadri ?

everyone has long term deals! you couldnt shake things up if you wanted to
- nightmare3020

? = JVR, doesn't it?

1) we have no idea what they have offered him.
2) the cap situation is absolutely none of his concern, nor should it be.
- scotch_tape

1) We don't know the exact offer, but from what the media has told us it's in the neighborhood of a 2 year bridge deal at 2.6-2.8 mil per. Seems totally reasonable considering his production over his entry-level contract.

2) I would find it very hard to believe that players are unaware or not concerned about their team's cap situation. Especially if they truly want to play for a specific team. The PA had to know when they signed the CBA that the reduced cap would mean teams would have less money to give out to players. In Franson's case I can understand his salary demands considering the contract Gunnarsson signed, as well as his PP career stats. Both players have to know though that the team can't afford to add more than 5.9 mil in salary, and therefore asking for 80-90% of that number won't fly if the team is trying to sign both players and stay under the cap. I'm just saying if they want to play for Toronto next year - which it seems that they do - they should be more conscious of what they are asking for.

Either way, Nonis screwed up signing Gunnar before Franson and Bozak before Kadri. I understand the sense of urgency with Bozak since he was a UFA, but Nonis should have done a better job managing his cap space and using his buyouts.

1) We don't know the exact offer, but from what the media has told us it's in the neighborhood of a 2 year bridge deal at 2.6-2.8 mil per. Seems totally reasonable considering his production over his entry-level contract.

2) I would find it very hard to believe that players are unaware or not concerned about their team's cap situation. Especially if they truly want to play for a specific team. The PA had to know when they signed the CBA that the reduced cap would mean teams would have less money to give out to players. In Franson's case I can understand his salary demands considering the contract Gunnarsson signed, as well as his PP career stats. Both players have to know though that the team can't afford to add more than 5.9 mil in salary, and therefore asking for 80-90% of that number won't fly if the team is trying to sign both players and stay under the cap. I'm just saying if they want to play for Toronto next year - which it seems that they do - they should be more conscious of what they are asking for.

Either way, Nonis screwed up signing Gunnar before Franson and Bozak before Kadri. I understand the sense of urgency with Bozak since he was a UFA, but Nonis should have done a better job managing his cap space and using his buyouts.
- Jpop281

i agree with this on the surface. but when the team goes out in the summer and brings in $12 million in fresh salary (thinking Bolland, Bernier, Clarkson), then comes to you after the fact and says "hey, we're in a bit of a salary bind here. help us out?" it's gonna rub the player the wrong way. and i understand that Nonis is responsible for making the Leafs a better team, not making Kadri happy, but it's the reality of the situation IMO.

i agree with this on the surface. but when the team goes out in the summer and brings in $12 million in fresh salary (thinking Bolland, Bernier, Clarkson), then comes to you after the fact and says "hey, we're in a bit of a salary bind here. help us out?" it's gonna rub the player the wrong way. and i understand that Nonis is responsible for making the Leafs a better team, not making Kadri happy, but it's the reality of the situation IMO.
- scotch_tape

Or Bozak at 4.2 for 5.... Id much rather pay Kadri that.

Mike Augello: So Much For Silence
- mikeinbuffalo

No way to treat a franchise player. The Fat Man has brought shame on this great nation.

I believe it is quite reasonable that the Leafs have offered each just under $3M
They should take it for just 1 year and then cash in next year - they need to prove their worth for 1 more year before asking for the reported dollars

In both their cases - they have both in 1 way or another been screwed around by the Leafs and I believe this may be motivation for holding out for more money from the Leafs

No way to treat a franchise player. The Fat Man has brought shame on this great nation.
- bloatedmosquito

Who's the franchise player?

i agree with this on the surface. but when the team goes out in the summer and brings in $12 million in fresh salary (thinking Bolland, Bernier, Clarkson), then comes to you after the fact and says "hey, we're in a bit of a salary bind here. help us out?" it's gonna rub the player the wrong way. and i understand that Nonis is responsible for making the Leafs a better team, not making Kadri happy, but it's the reality of the situation IMO.
- scotch_tape

I agree that Nonis should have been more mindful in the offseason and considered how his unsigned players would handle the money spent on the new additions. The Bernier deal is a bit of a head-scratcher too considering how well Reimer played last year. Not to mention the cap money the Leafs retained in the deal. I also think his use of the buyouts was not the best. I know Komisarek carried a bigger cap hit, but I think it would have made more sense to get rid of Grabo and Liles, since Komisarek only had 1 year left on his deal. Another option would have been shopping Grabo and agreeing to retain some of his salary and using the buyout on someone else.

On the other hand I think Kadri needs to realize that one good season doesn't warrant 4+ mil a season on a long term deal, especially when he couldn't even crack the lineup in previous years. Given that the Leafs are in cap trouble, and he still has some proving left to do a 2 year deal at about 2.8 per season is very reasonable. In a perfect world they could get Kadri to sign a 1-2 year deal at 2.8 per, and then lock up Franson for 1-2 years at 3 mil.

Or Bozak at 4.2 for 5.... Id much rather pay Kadri that.
- robin_steele264

well Bozak was a massive priority after whacking Grabovski.

Booth for Kadri's rights?

Booth for Kadri's rights?
- thundachunk

oh Canucks fans

Booth for Kadri's rights?
- thundachunk

Awesome

Jvr?
- walshyleafsfan

he will still have trade value
if bozak, clarkson, kadri or someone poops the bed for a year or 2 they will be impossible to move
JVR even coming off a bad year would have suitors

well Bozak was a massive priority after whacking Grabovski.
- scotch_tape

Phooey

I am getting concerned

Who's the franchise player?
- walshyleafsfan

Kadri of course.

Just ask him.

But the kid should be paid. Who will replace Kessel's skill when he walks in a year?