miller, ennis, and staff for the twins and luongo
- homiedclown

I don't think that's enough. Miller and Luongo are a wash, so basically ennis and stafford for the Sedins which is not very fair for Vancouver.

Doesn't that cover the whole Nucks roster then, more or less?
- nfph

The last few years, yes

I think he is playing a video game or something?

In the real world Ehrhoff was useless. I was very grateful when he walked.
- VANTEL

Not sure useless is the right word. Yost did an article awhile back that pretty much indicated that if Ehrhoff was on a playoff bound team, he could have been a norris trophy contender.

I don't think that's enough. Miller and Luongo are a wash, so basically ennis and stafford for the Sedins which is not very fair for Vancouver.
- bsabres716

In terms of talent yes but certainly not based on their contracts.

Not sure useless is the right word. Yost did an article awhile back that pretty much indicated that if Ehrhoff was on a playoff bound team, he could have been a norris trophy contender.
- Sabresfan-365

That I disagree with though. He wasn't that good. His numbers were decent but there are 20 guys that deserved it over him

Not sure useless is the right word. Yost did an article awhile back that pretty much indicated that if Ehrhoff was on a playoff bound team, he could have been a norris trophy contender.
- Sabresfan-365

OK useless is too stong. I am not a fan of him ,and probably need to tone it down.
I still am glad he is no longer with the Canucks.

I don't think that's enough. Miller and Luongo are a wash, so basically ennis and stafford for the Sedins which is not very fair for Vancouver.
- bsabres716

if anything would keep vanek here, it's the twins

throw in myers and a prospect if the twins get extensions

OK useless is too stong. I am not a fan of him ,and probably need to tone it down.
I still am glad he is no longer with the Canucks.
- VANTEL

You just secretly hate Germans, don't you?

In terms of talent yes but certainly not based on their contracts.
- Sabresfan-365

If Buffalo had a core like the Pens Luongo would be great giving them 5 - 6 years of solid G. Lu is not really suited for the Sabres . He would also suit the Flyers .

if anything would keep vanek here, it's the twins

throw in myers and a prospect if the twins get extensions
- homiedclown

Although I understand Myers just came off a season that put him completely to shame, I think trading him would create an even larger hole on our blue line than we have now. I understand that a line of Vanek-Sedin-Sedin would be extremely good and would create depth in the forward ranks (Hodgson to 2nd line center, etc.), but I still don't think that that trade would make us a cup contender, and then by the time we are ready to compete with a solid blue line, Vanek and the Sedins will be too old to take over a game.

if anything would keep vanek here, it's the twins

throw in myers and a prospect if the twins get extensions
- homiedclown

Could they afford 5 defensemen making 4+ million?

You just secretly hate Germans, don't you?
- bsabres716

You just secretly hate Germans, don't you?
- bsabres716

I like Frauleins

Although I understand Myers just came off a season that put him completely to shame, I think trading him would create an even larger hole on our blue line than we have now. I understand that a line of Vanek-Sedin-Sedin would be extremely good and would create depth in the forward ranks (Hodgson to 2nd line center, etc.), but I still don't think that that trade would make us a cup contender, and then by the time we are ready to compete with a solid blue line, Vanek and the Sedins will be too old to take over a game.
- bsabres716

Myers needs to stay. IMO he has a good year and builds on it.

Although I understand Myers just came off a season that put him completely to shame, I think trading him would create an even larger hole on our blue line than we have now. I understand that a line of Vanek-Sedin-Sedin would be extremely good and would create depth in the forward ranks (Hodgson to 2nd line center, etc.), but I still don't think that that trade would make us a cup contender, and then by the time we are ready to compete with a solid blue line, Vanek and the Sedins will be too old to take over a game.
- bsabres716

I just threw it out there because that is the type of move that needs to be made if they plan on keeping vanek

I am still shocked they have not moved him or miller

all of their moves so far leads to a rebuild yet the words from peggy and darcy indicate their plans to retool

the season is coming fast and I have seen no big moves to make this team even in the conversation of making the playoffs

pathetic

Myers needs to stay. IMO he has a good year and builds on it.
- sbroads24

last chance year for him?

Myers needs to stay. IMO he has a good year and builds on it.
- sbroads24

I would trade him if it meant a good forward and a 3 or 4 dman coming back, but the problem is he isn't worth that, and a trade return that is worth than that fills almost zero needs, so I don't see a use in trading him as of now.

last chance year for him?
- homiedclown

Yea. I think that message was sent to him at the draft too. For me he doesn't have to be great, but he has to show that he's trying to be great

I just threw it out there because that is the type of move that needs to be made if they plan on keeping vanek

I am still shocked they have not moved him or miller

all of their moves so far leads to a rebuild yet the words from peggy and darcy indicate their plans to retool

the season is coming fast and I have seen no big moves to make this team even in the conversation of making the playoffs

pathetic
- homiedclown

In my opinion Vanek gets traded at the deadline and Miller walks during free agency.

I would trade him if it meant a good forward and a 3 or 4 dman coming back, but the problem is he isn't worth that, and a trade return that is worth than that fills almost zero needs, so I don't see a use in trading him as of now.
- bsabres716

I still think he's worth just about as much as anyone on the roster.

Yea. I think that message was sent to him at the draft too. For me he doesn't have to be great, but he has to show that he's trying to be great
- sbroads24

I think at this point Myers should try to imitate Ehrhoff's game with a slightly higher offensive upside. I think if he does that then that guarantees him a spot on this team and also seems like the most likely path of success for him. He'll never live up to the $7 million contract unless he comes out and wins the norris this year or at least is a contender. I think if Ristolainen pans out as projected and Zadorov turns out somewhat solid we could see in 3-4 years:
Ristolainen-Myers
Ehrhoff-Zadorov
xxx-xxx

I think at this point Myers should try to imitate Ehrhoff's game with a slightly higher offensive upside. I think if he does that then that guarantees him a spot on this team and also seems like the most likely path of success for him. He'll never live up to the $7 million contract unless he comes out and wins the norris this year or at least is a contender. I think if Ristolainen pans out as projected and Zadorov turns out somewhat solid we could see in 3-4 years:
Ristolainen-Myers
Ehrhoff-Zadorov
xxx-xxx
- bsabres716

I would go with those lines right now

why wait

I just threw it out there because that is the type of move that needs to be made if they plan on keeping vanek

I am still shocked they have not moved him or miller

all of their moves so far leads to a rebuild yet the words from peggy and darcy indicate their plans to retool

the season is coming fast and I have seen no big moves to make this team even in the conversation of making the playoffs

pathetic
- homiedclown

I agree if you got the Sedins Vanek would need to stay to have the best effect.

There is little on Sabres D that would entice a trade except maybe Myers , but his salary is stupid so no.

Too be truthful it would cost more than Sabres would want to part with. I think it would start with your two first rounders this year, Foliigno and Grigo and Ott .


It would never happen

I would go with those lines right now

why wait
- homiedclown

I think if Ristolainen shows that he's ready right now at camp you'll see him on the second pairing. Zadorov I believe is someone who should be developed so that when he enters the NHL he'll be quite dominant.

I agree if you got the Sedins Vanek would need to stay to have the best effect.

There is little on Sabres D that would entice a trade except maybe Myers , but his salary is stupid so no.

Too be truthful it would cost more than Sabres would want to part with. I think it would start with your two first rounders this year, Foliigno and Grigo and Ott .
- VANTEL

I understand that that is a completely fair trade, but no. Therefore ends the trade for the Sedins discussion.