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keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Aug 29 @ 4:50 PM ET
Don't be surprised when that's what he gets. We've seen a ton of average players get inflated contracts lately, and he'll probably get his. That kind of number for that kind of player is slowly becoming the league-wide norm.
- eichiefs9


$4 million PER SEASON for Amac?
I will be VERY surprised if he gets that. I hardly see Amac as a decent bottom pairing dman on THIS team let alone getting a contract like that which would carry him into this teams prime years. Especially for an extended period. I wouldn't dream of paying him more thant $2mil per season for what he brings.

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Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Aug 29 @ 4:53 PM ET
Don't be surprised when that's what he gets. We've seen a ton of average players get inflated contracts lately, and he'll probably get his. That kind of number for that kind of player is slowly becoming the league-wide norm.
- eichiefs9



If he gets that amount it won't be from the Islanders that's for sure
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Aug 29 @ 4:55 PM ET
$4 million PER SEASON for Amac?
I will be VERY surprised if he gets that. I hardly see Amac as a decent bottom pairing dman on THIS team let alone getting a contract like that which would carry him into this teams prime years. Especially for an extended period. I wouldn't dream of paying him more thant $2mil per season for what he brings.

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- keaner17

I'm not defending it or saying I'd like it. But guys are getting overpaid lately. Pavelski now makes more than Tavares per year. Bouwmeester is making $5.4M per. I don't think Mac is going to get $4M per, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him get $3M-$3.5M for 3-4 years. He's serviceable, he's not going to blow anyone away but it's better than jamming some rookie into a top 4 role.

Hell, upon further review, the Oilers are paying Nick Schultz $3.5 per right now. And Andrew Ference $3.25.
kear20
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.03.2007

Aug 29 @ 4:58 PM ET
I'm not defending it or saying I'd like it. But guys are getting overpaid lately. Pavelski now makes more than Tavares per year. Bouwmeester is making $5.4M per. I don't think Mac is going to get $4M per, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him get $3M-$3.5M for 3-4 years. He's serviceable, he's not going to blow anyone away but it's better than jamming some rookie into a top 4 role.

Hell, upon further review, the Oilers are paying Nick Schultz $3.5M per right now.

- eichiefs9

I think Snow likes AMAC but if he he overprices himself, he could be on the way out at the trade deadline...
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Aug 29 @ 4:58 PM ET
I'm not defending it or saying I'd like it. But guys are getting overpaid lately. Pavelski now makes more than Tavares per year. Bouwmeester is making $5.4M per. I don't think Mac is going to get $4M per, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him get $3M-$3.5M for 3-4 years. He's serviceable, he's not going to blow anyone away but it's better than jamming some rookie into a top 4 role.
- eichiefs9


I'd maybe say $2-$3 mil. Anything beyond that is overpaying. Amac has no business in a top 4 role IMO. He's painfully average on THIS franchise let alone a team with contendership aspirations. The only thing I fear in any extension for him is the loyalty factor that Wang loves to dish out. That said, there's way too much talent in place on the blueline here to assume we'd make a big 4 year investment in a guy like this. If this team is to continue to improve, it's guys like AMAC who have to be upgraded on.

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eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Aug 29 @ 5:04 PM ET
I'd maybe say $2-$3 mil. Anything beyond that is overpaying. Amac has no business in a top 4 role IMO. He's painfully average on THIS franchise let alone a team with contendership aspirations. The only thing I fear in any extension for him is the loyalty factor that Wang loves to dish out. That said, there's way too much talent in place on the blueline here to assume we'd make a big 4 year investment in a guy like this. If this team is to continue to improve, it's guys like AMAC who have to be upgraded on.

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- keaner17

I'd keep him around for a longer term if the deal was cheaper without any issue. Guys can always be scratched or traded if there is somebody beating down the door to take their spot or their game goes to hell.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 29 @ 5:16 PM ET
Yes you were the chick that day.
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eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Aug 29 @ 5:25 PM ET
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
Team Canada lines on first walk through: Couture-Tavares-Stamkos; E Staal-Toews-Nash; St. Louis-Richards-Carter; Ladd-Getzlaf-Perry


Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 29 @ 5:37 PM ET

- keaner17

He was on a roll today.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 29 @ 5:38 PM ET
Seems that rumors are swirling over in Russia that Nabby might be pulling a Kovalchuk!

Here is his response to that rumor and what he believes is in store for the Isles during this coming season.

There seems to be a bit of arrogance in some of his answers. I like his aggressiveness.

http://rbth.ru/arts/sport...ers_for_russia_29309.html

- SCLI

Won't upload. What does he say?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 29 @ 5:39 PM ET
Don't be surprised when that's what he gets. We've seen a ton of average players get inflated contracts lately, and he'll probably get his. That kind of number for that kind of player is slowly becoming the league-wide norm.
- eichiefs9

I haven't seen too many subpar, soft defensemen get 4 million dollars a year. I'd say you're correct he is a serviceable Dman but I'd also say he's a little below average. He doesn't bring much to the table.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 29 @ 5:41 PM ET
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
Team Canada lines on first walk through: Couture-Tavares-Stamkos; E Staal-Toews-Nash; St. Louis-Richards-Carter; Ladd-Getzlaf-Perry



- eichiefs9

Love to see that line stick!

Edit; Wait a sec. Richards made Olympic camp?
PeteM
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 07.10.2007

Aug 29 @ 5:45 PM ET
Won't upload. What does he say?
- Cptmjl





R-Sport: What do you think of the Olympic preparations in Sochi?

Evgeni Nabokov: We were given a great deal of useful information. We saw the places where we will live and where we will play. The place where the team will be staying during the Olympics is now just a frame structure, and finishing work is being done on it. However, it is clear that the living conditions will be great. I was impressed by the main sports palace: It is simply an awesome building.

Read more about Evgeni Nabokov

R-Sport: How does it feel to be back on the national team after several years of absence?

E.N.: It is always nice to come to the national team. We talked with each other and with the coaches. Zinetula Bilyaletdinov and his assistants told us what they expected from us now, and also during the Olympics.

R-Sport: Did you expect this invitation, given the bad experience on the national team in previous years?

E.N.: What do you mean by bad experience? Do you mean the last Olympics? Four years have passed and much has changed. You know, I do not sit at home thinking, “When will I get a call from the national team?” My task is to do my job well and to hope that, one day, I will get an invitation. The coaching staff of the Russian national team makes the decisions, not me, as to whom to invite or not invite.

R-Sport: This year could be called one of the best in your career. The Islanders finally made it to the playoffs with your help.

E.N.: Yes, the season was very positive for the team. It was short, but dynamic. We fulfilled one of our tasks—we made it to the playoffs. The Islanders took a great step forward. However, now we are facing greater challenges, and it will be much more difficult to take the next step. We will have to make the playoffs again, but the tasks will be very different this time. I think that this season will be much more difficult for us than the previous one.
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R-Sport: There were rumors that you would either be locked out or would try to go back to the KHL after the season ends. Is any of this true?

E.N.: To the KHL!? Did someone seriously write this? I have never heard of this until now. To be honest, I have never even considered the possibility of returning. These rumors are mere gossip. In addition to the Islanders, I have other options in the NHL; but, after signing of a new contract, it is pointless to speak about this.

R-Sport: So, there is no point in discussing your return to KHL clubs in the near future, is there?

E.N.: Do you think, given that I went back to the NHL for family reasons, after just two years I would seriously talk about returning to Russia? My family has not changed. No, at this time, I do not see myself in the KHL. What the future holds, I don’t know.

R-Sport: Taking into consideration your experience of playing in Russia, were you surprised by Kovalchuk’s decision to move to the SKA?

E.N.: I think like everyone else and I did not expect this. However, Ilya has made a choice for himself and for his family. He believes that things will be better for him there. Those who condemn Kovalchuk’s action are simply stupid people. He does what is best for him and for the people closest to him.

R-Sport: In Russia, all the talk about hockey boils down to February and Sochi. Won’t the thoughts of February prevent you from preparing and playing for the Islanders in the upcoming months?
Related:

Another Devils player moves to St. Petersburg

NHL players given the OK to play at Sochi Olympics

Kovalchuk quits the NHL and returns to Russia ahead of Sochi 2014

E.N.: Everyone understands that this is the year of the Olympics, and the Games are very important for the country. However, you should understand that playing for our own club is no less important. Moreover, one supplements the other here: If you play badly for the club, you will not get to the Olympics.

Therefore, each of us thinks about playing the first club game and later we will think about the second game; and then, in February, we will think about the Olympics. Now we have to prove to the coaches that we deserve to play on the national team, and I can only do this with the help of good games with the Islanders. Believe me: I will not be thinking 24/7 about the Olympics.

R-Sport: Are you ready to go to the Olympics even as the third goaltender?

E.N.: I do not understand why everyone considers me a reserve player. We have a coaching staff, and none of them has said anything about who will be the first goaltender and who will be the second or third. I am happy to be on the national team, and that is enough.

R-Sport: Were you surprised that Ilya Bryzgalov was not present at this session?

E.N.: Yes, I was surprised a little. Ilya is a very good goaltender. However, that's just it: There are lots of good goaltenders, but the coaching staff can select only three.

First published in Russian in R-Sport.
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eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Aug 29 @ 5:47 PM ET
Love to see that line stick!

Edit; Wait a sec. Richards made Olympic camp?

- Cptmjl

They invited a ton of people, it's really only stupid walk-throughs right now. In comparison, the US invited Danny DeKeyser.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 29 @ 5:49 PM ET
R-Sport: What do you think of the Olympic preparations in Sochi?

Evgeni Nabokov: We were given a great deal of useful information. We saw the places where we will live and where we will play. The place where the team will be staying during the Olympics is now just a frame structure, and finishing work is being done on it. However, it is clear that the living conditions will be great. I was impressed by the main sports palace: It is simply an awesome building.

Read more about Evgeni Nabokov

R-Sport: How does it feel to be back on the national team after several years of absence?

E.N.: It is always nice to come to the national team. We talked with each other and with the coaches. Zinetula Bilyaletdinov and his assistants told us what they expected from us now, and also during the Olympics.

R-Sport: Did you expect this invitation, given the bad experience on the national team in previous years?

E.N.: What do you mean by bad experience? Do you mean the last Olympics? Four years have passed and much has changed. You know, I do not sit at home thinking, “When will I get a call from the national team?” My task is to do my job well and to hope that, one day, I will get an invitation. The coaching staff of the Russian national team makes the decisions, not me, as to whom to invite or not invite.

R-Sport: This year could be called one of the best in your career. The Islanders finally made it to the playoffs with your help.

E.N.: Yes, the season was very positive for the team. It was short, but dynamic. We fulfilled one of our tasks—we made it to the playoffs. The Islanders took a great step forward. However, now we are facing greater challenges, and it will be much more difficult to take the next step. We will have to make the playoffs again, but the tasks will be very different this time. I think that this season will be much more difficult for us than the previous one.
NHL
Special project: NHL

R-Sport: There were rumors that you would either be locked out or would try to go back to the KHL after the season ends. Is any of this true?

E.N.: To the KHL!? Did someone seriously write this? I have never heard of this until now. To be honest, I have never even considered the possibility of returning. These rumors are mere gossip. In addition to the Islanders, I have other options in the NHL; but, after signing of a new contract, it is pointless to speak about this.

R-Sport: So, there is no point in discussing your return to KHL clubs in the near future, is there?

E.N.: Do you think, given that I went back to the NHL for family reasons, after just two years I would seriously talk about returning to Russia? My family has not changed. No, at this time, I do not see myself in the KHL. What the future holds, I don’t know.

R-Sport: Taking into consideration your experience of playing in Russia, were you surprised by Kovalchuk’s decision to move to the SKA?

E.N.: I think like everyone else and I did not expect this. However, Ilya has made a choice for himself and for his family. He believes that things will be better for him there. Those who condemn Kovalchuk’s action are simply stupid people. He does what is best for him and for the people closest to him.

R-Sport: In Russia, all the talk about hockey boils down to February and Sochi. Won’t the thoughts of February prevent you from preparing and playing for the Islanders in the upcoming months?
Related:

Another Devils player moves to St. Petersburg

NHL players given the OK to play at Sochi Olympics

Kovalchuk quits the NHL and returns to Russia ahead of Sochi 2014

E.N.: Everyone understands that this is the year of the Olympics, and the Games are very important for the country. However, you should understand that playing for our own club is no less important. Moreover, one supplements the other here: If you play badly for the club, you will not get to the Olympics.

Therefore, each of us thinks about playing the first club game and later we will think about the second game; and then, in February, we will think about the Olympics. Now we have to prove to the coaches that we deserve to play on the national team, and I can only do this with the help of good games with the Islanders. Believe me: I will not be thinking 24/7 about the Olympics.

R-Sport: Are you ready to go to the Olympics even as the third goaltender?

E.N.: I do not understand why everyone considers me a reserve player. We have a coaching staff, and none of them has said anything about who will be the first goaltender and who will be the second or third. I am happy to be on the national team, and that is enough.

R-Sport: Were you surprised that Ilya Bryzgalov was not present at this session?

E.N.: Yes, I was surprised a little. Ilya is a very good goaltender. However, that's just it: There are lots of good goaltenders, but the coaching staff can select only three.

First published in Russian in R-Sport.
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- PeteM

Thanks!
Seems like the clown interviewing him was trying with everything he had to create some element of conspiracy. Have to love the way Nabby put a stop to it.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 29 @ 5:51 PM ET
They invited a ton of people, it's really only stupid walk-throughs right now. In comparison, the US invited Danny DeKeyser.
- eichiefs9

Oh, gotcha. Honestly haven't been paying too much attention. Canada is going to be a fun team to watch no matter how those lines play out.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Aug 29 @ 5:51 PM ET
Oh, gotcha. Honestly haven't been paying too much attention. Canada is going to be a fun team to watch no matter how those lines play out.
- Cptmjl

They always are, it always manages to resemble a fantasy hockey team
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Aug 29 @ 5:53 PM ET
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
Team Canada lines on first walk through: Couture-Tavares-Stamkos; E Staal-Toews-Nash; St. Louis-Richards-Carter; Ladd-Getzlaf-Perry



- eichiefs9


I'm sure Crosby will be taking that spot on the 1st line. I see JT either second or 3rd line center which is fine on that squad
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Aug 29 @ 5:57 PM ET
I'm sure Crosby will be taking that spot on the 1st line. I see JT either second or 3rd line center which is fine on that squad
- Vukota

Third line, if you're asking the guys at TSN.

http://ctvmedia.ca/Networ...Projection-for-Sochi-2014
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 29 @ 5:58 PM ET
They always are, it always manages to resemble a fantasy hockey team
- eichiefs9

Yeah I guess it does
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 29 @ 5:58 PM ET
I'm sure Crosby will be taking that spot on the 1st line. I see JT either second or 3rd line center which is fine on that squad
- Vukota

Yep that's a give in. Can't blame them either.
SCLI
New York Islanders
Location: Hockey Hotbed of the South!, SC
Joined: 09.17.2007

Aug 29 @ 6:13 PM ET
Won't upload. What does he say?
- Cptmjl


For you Capt, a few Q & A's


R-Sport: This year could be called one of the best in your career. The Islanders finally made it to the playoffs with your help.

E.N.: Yes, the season was very positive for the team. It was short, but dynamic. We fulfilled one of our tasks—we made it to the playoffs. The Islanders took a great step forward. However, now we are facing greater challenges, and it will be much more difficult to take the next step. We will have to make the playoffs again, but the tasks will be very different this time. I think that this season will be much more difficult for us than the previous one.
NHL
Special project: NHL

R-Sport: There were rumors that you would either be locked out or would try to go back to the KHL after the season ends. Is any of this true?

E.N.: To the KHL!? Did someone seriously write this? I have never heard of this until now. To be honest, I have never even considered the possibility of returning. These rumors are mere gossip. In addition to the Islanders, I have other options in the NHL; but, after signing of a new contract, it is pointless to speak about this.

R-Sport: So, there is no point in discussing your return to KHL clubs in the near future, is there?

E.N.: Do you think, given that I went back to the NHL for family reasons, after just two years I would seriously talk about returning to Russia? My family has not changed. No, at this time, I do not see myself in the KHL. What the future holds, I don’t know.
SCLI
New York Islanders
Location: Hockey Hotbed of the South!, SC
Joined: 09.17.2007

Aug 29 @ 6:16 PM ET

First published in Russian in R-Sport.
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- PeteM


My apologies Pete for reposting this to Capt. I should have read all the posts 1st .
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Aug 29 @ 6:36 PM ET
First I'm funny, now I'm sensitive? How so? Also, Gillette products have skin?
- Cptmjl




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PeteM
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 07.10.2007

Aug 29 @ 6:47 PM ET
My apologies Pete for reposting this to Capt. I should have read all the posts 1st .
- SCLI



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