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- Colin Dambrauskas

...their is absolutely no reason whatsoever for the Flames to add Bryzgalov.
Not one.

Not worth the media circus that comes with him

http://www.tsn.ca/mens_world/statistics/?show=goalie
- Faron

4 games. His stats prior to that were horrid.

At this point at least it seems pointless. The guys we have signed need playing time. The only way I see this being worth while wojld be if CGY goes something like 0 for 20 to start the season and Ramo, Berra and JMac are a complete embarrassment. Bring in Bryz to save some face I guess.

Otherwise, the only players CGY should be looking to brkng in are young guys with good upside that help fill possible rolls or some vets that aill sign short term contracts that could possibly be flipped at the deadline for young assets or picks.
- TandA4Flames

like Bryz-ga-love?

...their is absolutely no reason whatsoever for the Flames to add Bryzgalov.
Not one.
- Barx

How about

1) Trying to keep a competitive environment within the organization throughout the rebuild in the offchance that Ramo poops the bed and MacDonald can't handle more than 20-30 games.

Thing is, though Ramo has the potential, there is still a chance that none of their goalies do well enough throughout this upcoming season which is really not good for team morale. If you cannot confide in your goalie, you start to fall apart as a team, and despite rebuilding, the team needs to stay strong if they want to maintain a healthy environment in which guys like Sven/Backlund etc can develop.

I would sign Theodore instead on a 1 or 2 year deal, at the very least he is a very credible back up until Ramo earns the number 1 spot

If he wasnt such a dressing room cancer maybe. I think the Flames are better off with a less talented goalie who will work his ass off for the team rather than someone with Bryz's talent who seems to only really care about himself. That may not be true, but that is the impression I get from any news story or interview with him.
- mblightning

I agree...and I would also like to think that given how things ended with him and the Flyers, he would like a chance to win the league over. Let him redevelop his name as a Flame, then trade the sucker for draft picks/prospects

*wishful thinking*

Bryz was not as horrible a goalie. He had issues when he first got here but everyone forgets he was relatively solid in net for some good stretches. Who owns the Flyers shutout record? Bryz does. Once he shut up and played his last half of 2011-2012 was amazing. Course he did not endear himself by sulking about the Media's stories about the first part of the year.

After 2 years of Bryz, my assement is Good Goalie, Bad Lockeroom guy, bit of a Diva. However getting him for one year for 2 mil could help him re-establish himself and might be a good fit. Otherwise there is always Thomas... who could be as big a distraction. So, Pick your poison.

I would sign Theodore instead on a 1 or 2 year deal, at the very least he is a very credible back up until Ramo earns the number 1 spot
- DDM-Coga

Ramo - Bryz

Move Joey Mac because I think he has value and let the two battle for starter. They dont need a guy like Theodore with Joey Mac...but I think they could entertain grabbing a potential 1-2 guy with Bryz given that Ramo is a question mark and Feaster wants to maintain some competitiveness.

http://www.tsn.ca/mens_world/statistics/?show=goalie
- Faron

The perfect response to someone commenting on something they don't know about. Thanks for that!

Ramo - Bryz

Move Joey Mac because I think he has value and let the two battle for starter. They dont need a guy like Theodore with Joey Mac...but I think they could entertain grabbing a potential 1-2 guy with Bryz given that Ramo is a question mark and Feaster wants to maintain some competitiveness.
- Colin Dambrauskas

Bryz would be a good signing as well, you do have the cap space to burn on him, just thought Theo would be a cheaper deal in terms of cap space and length.

I wonder if he would accept a professional try-out to earn himself a contract or the number 1 spot. [/img]

They didn't sign Ramo and acquire Berra to not give them a shot...there is only one way to find out what they have in these guys

If he learned from mistakes in Philly, id give him a 1 year deal in Calgary. Too much media distraction, and the 24/7 thing blew it all sky high. As pointed out, he does own the flyers shutout record, and he has made some good saves. Just wasnt the right goalie for our system

Save the money, tank and draft high.
- dwoo33

They're probably more likely to tank with Bryz between the pipes. The guy is a loose cannon

Terrible waste of 3M .
He can't stop a beach ball, is a total flake and would not serve the team well int he dressing room.
Why not just roll with two of the three expected at camp, take your lumps like the rest of the team is going to all year and save 3M.
- Sam67

Completely agree, Bryz was exposed for what he really is in Philly, and average at best goalie. Thats being generous

Bryz was not as horrible a goalie. He had issues when he first got here but everyone forgets he was relatively solid in net for some good stretches. Who owns the Flyers shutout record? Bryz does. Once he shut up and played his last half of 2011-2012 was amazing. Course he did not endear himself by sulking about the Media's stories about the first part of the year.

After 2 years of Bryz, my assement is Good Goalie, Bad Lockeroom guy, bit of a Diva. However getting him for one year for 2 mil could help him re-establish himself and might be a good fit. Otherwise there is always Thomas... who could be as big a distraction. So, Pick your poison.
- flyler

Not everyone...and what if the Flames simply pick him up for a 2 year term in the offchance he reestablishes himself and creates a certain value for the Flames which could then be moved?

like Bryz-ga-love?
- Colin Dambrauskas

The markef for goal tenders has been pretty weak. So trying to move Bryz for anything of value may prove difficult. There are still other options out there so I don't think there is any good reason to rush out and sign a goalie in case none of goalies are able to keep us competitive. Give our guys a 1/4 of the season to see if 1 of them rises to the challenge. If not, then CGY can go out and sign 1 of these guys.

How about

1) Trying to keep a competitive environment within the organization throughout the rebuild in the offchance that Ramo poops the bed and MacDonald can't handle more than 20-30 games.

Thing is, though Ramo has the potential, there is still a chance that none of their goalies do well enough throughout this upcoming season which is really not good for team morale. If you cannot confide in your goalie, you start to fall apart as a team, and despite rebuilding, the team needs to stay strong if they want to maintain a healthy environment in which guys like Sven/Backlund etc can develop.
- Colin Dambrauskas

1)How does adding a fourth mediocre goaltender make your organization more competitive?

The last thing a rebuilding organization needs is an inconsistent mid level goalie with a brutal attitude.

Honestly, I can't think a worse fit for the flames in net.

They didn't sign Ramo and acquire Berra to not give them a shot...there is only one way to find out what they have in these guys
- flashfire

Berra isnt really in discussion this year with Ramo and Macdonald being the guys...if Ramo really craps the bed then they give Berra a shot.

This whole discussion was to consider possible (moving) Macdonald and letting Ramo and a guy like Bryz fight it out. Nothing changes with respect to Berra.

And not to say that I want to move MacDonald either, cause hes a good option for backup but in these dog days of summer its a decent convo I think. Joey Mac could have some value to a few teams wanting a solid option for a #2.

I think the biggest issue with bringing Bryz on to a developing team with young goaltenders is that fact that he brings nothing to the mentor/leadership department. The guy is a notoriously selfish teammate who has had run-ins with players in the past. And his relationship (or lack there of) with fellow countryman, Bobrovsky, was a contributing factor (I believe) in the young goaltender being moved. Bryz does not take well to competition. Bryz does not take losing well. There's only so many times he can play behind a struggling team before opening his mouth to throw someone under the bus. And there's always the threat that he could poison the mind of Ramo and/or Berra.

I think Macdonald, despite not having the resume of Bryz, would have a much better impact on a young team. And I think that's a major reason why Bryz has received almost no interest from any NHL teams. Steer clear Flames.

Berra isnt really in discussion this year with Ramo and Macdonald being the guys...if Ramo really craps the bed then they give Berra a shot.

This whole discussion was to consider possible (moving) Macdonald and letting Ramo and a guy like Bryz fight it out. Nothing changes with respect to Berra.

And not to say that I want to move MacDonald either, cause hes a good option for backup but in these dog days of summer its a decent convo I think. Joey Mac could have some value to a few teams wanting a solid option for a #2.
- Colin Dambrauskas

I don't see Joey Mac having any value. There are still some decent back-ups that would probably sign for league min. Why trade a pick away for a back-up getting close to $1million?

AS for Berra he will see some action with the flames. My guess is that he is called up by game 25 to see what he can do, unless Ramo really comes out on fire.

I think the biggest issue with bringing Bryz on to a developing team with young goaltenders is that fact that he brings nothing to the mentor/leadership department. The guy is a notoriously selfish teammates who has had run-ins with players in the past. And his relationship (or lack there of) with fellow countryman, Bobrovsky, was a contributing factor (I believe) in the young goaltender being moved. Bryz does not take well to competition. Bryz does not take losing well. There's only so many times he can play behind a struggling team before opening his mouth to throw someone under the bus. And there's always the threat that he could poison the mind of Ramo and/or Berra.

I think Macdonald, despite not having the resume of Bryz, would have a much better impact on a young team. And I think that's a major reason why Bryz has received almost no interest from any NHL teams. Steer clear Flames.
- phillyphanatic

.....well said.

...and let's not forget to mention, Bryzgalov isn't a very good goalie.

I don't see Joey Mac having any value. There are still some decent back-ups that would probably sign for league min. Why trade a pick away for a back-up getting close to $1million?

AS for Berra he will see some action with the flames. My guess is that he is called up by game 25 to see what he can do, unless Ramo really comes out on fire.
- nigelwright275

agreed.
ham'negger back-up/third stringer = dime a dozen

Poor Flames fans. Your going to finsih last. Might as well accept it.

Bryz was not as horrible a goalie. He had issues when he first got here but everyone forgets he was relatively solid in net for some good stretches. Who owns the Flyers shutout record? Bryz does. Once he shut up and played his last half of 2011-2012 was amazing. Course he did not endear himself by sulking about the Media's stories about the first part of the year.

After 2 years of Bryz, my assement is Good Goalie, Bad Lockeroom guy, bit of a Diva. However getting him for one year for 2 mil could help him re-establish himself and might be a good fit. Otherwise there is always Thomas... who could be as big a distraction. So, Pick your poison.
- flyler

I'm sorry but the "good stretches" were neither long nor consistent. And he was not amazing the last half of 11-12, he was amazing in the month of March. The Flyers defensive struggles are well documented, however, Bryz did about as much for his defense as he did for them. His inability to play the puck had a major negative effect on the Flyers ability to stop opposing forecheckers. And it was obvious how much better (and more confident) the team looked when Mason, and his stick-handling ability, entered the fold. When it comes to pure physical goaltending talent, Bryz is average at best. And he's horribly inconsistent. He's not the sole reason the Flyers underachieved in his tenure in Philly, but he's certainly not innocent of blame.