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RobFlyers#1
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.22.2009

Aug 27 @ 12:13 PM ET
Yes. He's saying they can suck it, being all pissed off about Giroux not being there (what this whole thing started off about). I don't think he meant it about the team or the games, more the "OH NO, GIROUX'S NOT HERE!" mentality. At least that's how I read it.
- jmatchett383


Which is what I was saying originally.....Its CANADA. Its going to be a big deal if one of Canadas best players don't attend. Starting off a comment Canada can suck it and ending USA USA USA and you read it that it was just about Giroux..
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 27 @ 12:14 PM ET
Which is what I was saying originally.....Its CANADA. Its going to be a big deal if one of Canadas best players don't attend. Starting off a comment Canada can suck it and ending USA USA USA and you read it that it was just about Giroux..
- RobFlyers#1



I don't think anyone has an issue with stating that it's going to be big news in Canada. What I have an issue with is the reasons you gave to support why Giroux should've been there. I disagree with that.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 27 @ 12:15 PM ET
I didn't attend the '87 Canada Cup in person.
- bmeltzer


Bill, were you at the Canada-Sweden 2OT game? I think it was 16 seconds shy of a 3rd OT when Yzerman scored. Maybe not as great as 87 (Gretzky was old by that time, Lemieux had retired, but it had Lindros in his prime), but still fantastic.
RobFlyers#1
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.22.2009

Aug 27 @ 12:18 PM ET
I don't think anyone has an issue with stating that it's going to be big news in Canada. What I have an issue with is the reasons you gave to support why Giroux should've been there. I disagree with that.
- MJL


Perfect I respect that. I respect Girouxs decision not to go but you can see from Hockey Canada standpoint nothing they were doing at this camp would hinder the recovery to Giroux. That's why they are disappointed.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 27 @ 12:18 PM ET
Which is what I was saying originally.....Its CANADA. Its going to be a big deal if one of Canadas best players don't attend. Starting off a comment Canada can suck it and ending USA USA USA and you read it that it was just about Giroux..
- RobFlyers#1


The Canada can suck it part, yes (about Canada, not the Olympic team past or present, more the journalism and national hype this was getting). The USA USA USA thing, I figured he was saying it as that he's gonna root for the USA since the talk was all about the Olympics. Just how I viewed it, sorry.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Aug 27 @ 12:19 PM ET
But are there really elite nonprofessionals playing hockey at any organized level above bantam? Juniors are paid, NCAA players are paid (with an education), minor league players are paid. It's just the level. The quality of competition has improved in every single sport since the artificial amateur status thing went away.
- bodiva88


i'm talking anything above junior/college level or their equivalent.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 27 @ 12:20 PM ET
Perfect I respect that. I respect Girouxs decision not to go but you can see from Hockey Canada standpoint nothing they were doing at this camp would hinder the recovery to Giroux. That's why they are disappointed.
- RobFlyers#1


Again, I saw a picture (go to TSN.ca, then click "NHL where they're all wearing gloves and holding sticks. To my knowledge, Giroux can't do either of those. I'm not sure WHY they were wearing them, but Giroux woulda looked a bit out of place there.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 27 @ 12:21 PM ET
i'm talking anything above junior/college level or their equivalent.
- hammarby31


Sounds like someone wants a shot at the Olympics now...
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Aug 27 @ 12:21 PM ET
Perfect I respect that. I respect Girouxs decision not to go but you can see from Hockey Canada standpoint nothing they were doing at this camp would hinder the recovery to Giroux. That's why they are disappointed.
- RobFlyers#1

If I'm the Flyers, I think ball hockey with gloves and sticks could represent a small risk of injury. Is that risk miniscule? Probably, but I'm protecting my number one asset.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 27 @ 12:24 PM ET
Perfect I respect that. I respect Girouxs decision not to go but you can see from Hockey Canada standpoint nothing they were doing at this camp would hinder the recovery to Giroux. That's why they are disappointed.
- RobFlyers#1



Hockey Canada is inncorrect. And they are being selfish in forming that viewpoint.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Aug 27 @ 12:26 PM ET
this is a (frank)ing violation.



nyc transit

- hammarby31

OUCH
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Aug 27 @ 12:29 PM ET
I didn't attend the '87 Canada Cup in person.
- bmeltzer



no, no. Rendezvous 87, not the 87 Canada Cup. And i was joking.



RobFlyers#1
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.22.2009

Aug 27 @ 12:30 PM ET
If I'm the Flyers, I think ball hockey with gloves and sticks could represent a small risk of injury. Is that risk miniscule? Probably, but I'm protecting my number one asset.
- BulliesPhan87


oh my are you serious.... or being funny. Giroux would not have been expected to participate in the ball hockey did you ever hear of spectating, taking it all in, watching the systems they plan on implementing in February. That was the only time they were on the ice surface, there s much more going on at that camp besides the hour of ball hockey yesterday.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Aug 27 @ 12:30 PM ET
Again, I saw a picture (go to TSN.ca, then click "NHL where they're all wearing gloves and holding sticks. To my knowledge, Giroux can't do either of those. I'm not sure WHY they were wearing them, but Giroux woulda looked a bit out of place there.
- jmatchett383


I'm starting to think they just wanted a token ginger on their ball hockey team.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Aug 27 @ 12:31 PM ET
Sounds like someone wants a shot at the Olympics now...
- jmatchett383



not i. that ship has long sailed.
RobFlyers#1
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.22.2009

Aug 27 @ 12:36 PM ET
Hockey Canada is inncorrect. And they are being selfish in forming that viewpoint.
- MJL


How tho. Do you not think Giroux wants to participate in Sochi. Do you think Hockey Canada cant form a team to win without Giroux. The Olympics is a short tournament with little to no prep time do to the NHL season. The players will have one, maybe two practices before playing their first game in February. Do you not think Giroux going would have been beneficial to him as well as Hockey Canada if he is named to the Team come December.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 27 @ 12:39 PM ET
oh my are you serious.... or being funny. Giroux would not have been expected to participate in the ball hockey did you ever hear of spectating, taking it all in, watching the systems they plan on implementing in February. That was the only time they were on the ice surface, there s much more going on at that camp besides the hour of ball hockey yesterday.
- RobFlyers#1


I guess Claude Giroux's just an awful person and should be executed immediately.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 27 @ 12:40 PM ET
How tho. Do you not think Giroux wants to participate in Sochi. Do you think Hockey Canada cant form a team to win without Giroux. The Olympics is a short tournament with little to no prep time do to the NHL season. The players will have one, maybe two practices before playing their first game in February. Do you not think Giroux going would have been beneficial to him as well as Hockey Canada if he is named to the Team come December.
- RobFlyers#1


Please, by all means, leave him off the team. I'd be thrilled.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Aug 27 @ 12:41 PM ET
Sad to see those guys go... Also Thomson Reuters dumped all of their sports photographers....sad...Anyone into photography around here?
RobFlyers#1
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.22.2009

Aug 27 @ 12:43 PM ET
I guess Claude Giroux's just an awful person and should be executed immediately.
- jmatchett383


whatever. Good logical talk again from the peanut gallery.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Aug 27 @ 12:43 PM ET
OUCH
- GOA88



Philly gets good jabs in NYC where i live also LOL





In Penn Station NYC
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 27 @ 12:46 PM ET
whatever. Good logical talk again from the peanut gallery.
- RobFlyers#1


Well, what do you want? He chose not to attend orientation. Okay...now what do you want the repercussions to be? Leave him off the team? Go ahead, that would make my day.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 27 @ 12:46 PM ET
Philly gets good jabs in NYC where i live also LOL





In Penn Station NYC

- PhillaBully


You live in Penn Station?
RobFlyers#1
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.22.2009

Aug 27 @ 12:47 PM ET
Please, by all means, leave him off the team. I'd be thrilled.
- jmatchett383


oh no im sure he will still makes the team unless he poops the bed to start the season ..... and as a Flyers fan im sure you would not want that
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Aug 27 @ 12:48 PM ET
Philly gets good jabs in NYC where i live also LOL





In Penn Station NYC

- PhillaBully


Whoever writes the copy for those VisitPhilly.com billboards does pretty good work, actually.

They did a pretty good one for when the Phillies got Cliff Lee back:

http://www.uwishunu.com/2...-now-a-billboard-on-i-95/
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