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aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Aug 26 @ 10:15 PM ET
Bingo.
- Gunslinger


When it comes down to, and i know some guys disagree, which is fine, I think you try and move Dion, try and pick up a stay at home guy in return along with anything else. I know some guys see this as a backwards move but I think it makes sense, especially long term with the young guys coming up.
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 26 @ 10:17 PM ET
Damn! Lamerello needs a good kick in the a$$! He needed to hold the line with the Leafs, Sabres and Rangers. Who's next Stepan? If one of the other three sign long term, then the rest will expect the same. Too bad the Leafs couldn't sign Franson to a one year deal on the cheap and have a long term deal in their back pocket starting the next year. Good luck with that one. We need both of these players in our back pocket, going into the season. If Liles can't be moved, we vote Kulimen off of the island. Third liners can be found for less. If he does get moved, then maybe we can later move Liles for another 3rd liner with a similar cap hit that needs to be moved.
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Aug 26 @ 10:19 PM ET
When it comes down to, and i know some guys disagree, which is fine, I think you try and move Dion, try and pick up a stay at home guy in return along with anything else. I know some guys see this as a backwards move but I think it makes sense, especially long term with the young guys coming up.
- aminnes

Meh, move Gunnar before Dion.
Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

Aug 26 @ 10:20 PM ET
Kadri is for real. He will only get better.
- Barx


Regardless of where he ends up, RFAs with his track record simply do not get paid big time. They get bridge deals.

He could turn out to be the next Wayne Gretzky, but there's no way he's got the leverage to demand anything more than 3.5 on a bridge deal at this point.

He can have 4 mil per year if he's willing to eat up some UFA years.
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Aug 26 @ 10:22 PM ET
Meh, move Gunnar before Dion.
- Leafland


Agreed. Should have signed Franson before Gunnar.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Aug 26 @ 10:23 PM ET
Agreed. Should have signed Franson before Gunnar.
- Gunslinger


Ya, really.
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Aug 26 @ 10:23 PM ET
Agreed. Should have signed Franson before Gunnar.
- Gunslinger

Should have, but probably couldn't. Nonis knew he was going to be in tight and is trying to bring these guys down a million or so.
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Aug 26 @ 10:24 PM ET
Ya, really.
- aminnes


Sarcasm?

There is no right or wrong, I just think Franson is the better player.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Aug 26 @ 10:24 PM ET
Sarcasm?

There is no right or wrong, I just think Franson is the better player.

- Gunslinger

No, I was agreeing completely! was for Nonis
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Aug 26 @ 10:26 PM ET
Damn! Lamerello needs a good kick in the a$$! He needed to hold the line with the Leafs, Sabres and Rangers. Who's next Stepan? If one of the other three sign long term, then the rest will expect the same. Too bad the Leafs couldn't sign Franson to a one year deal on the cheap and have a long term deal in their back pocket starting the next year. Good luck with that one. We need both of these players in our back pocket, going into the season. If Liles can't be moved, we vote Kulimen off of the island. Third liners can be found for less. If he does get moved, then maybe we can later move Liles for another 3rd liner with a similar cap hit that needs to be moved.
- PrinceLH


Franson is coming of a pretty cheap bridge contract as it is, no?
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Aug 26 @ 10:26 PM ET
No, I was agreeing completely! was for Nonis
- aminnes




I wasn't sure.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Aug 26 @ 10:26 PM ET
Should have, but probably couldn't. Nonis knew he was going to be in tight and is trying to bring these guys down a million or so.
- Leafland


Hmmmm, I fail to see to see that working. Give money to Gunner in hopes of reducing the price for Franson?
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Aug 26 @ 10:28 PM ET
Hmmmm, I fail to see to see that working. Give money to Gunner in hopes of reducing the price for Franson?
- aminnes

Oh yah, Gunnar was an RFA as well wasn't he.

I guess Franson has been asking for to much right from the start maybe?
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Aug 26 @ 10:30 PM ET
Franson is coming of a pretty cheap bridge contract as it is, no?
- Gunslinger


Yup Franson gets a long term deal regardless and seems like the type to hold his ground IMO. Who knows, someone might throw an offer sheet. I really like him stepping up in the playoffs, he should get a good contract this time around. With all the UFA's after this year it might make sense to move the captain, again my opinion.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Aug 26 @ 10:31 PM ET
Oh yah, Gunnar was an RFA as well wasn't he.

I guess Franson has been asking for to much right from the start maybe?

- Leafland


Based on how he has improved I'de give Franson 4.5 a year in a heart beat. Top four, can score, and is pretty solid at the toughest time, playoffs.
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Aug 26 @ 10:31 PM ET
Oh yah, Gunnar was an RFA as well wasn't he.

I guess Franson has been asking for to much right from the start maybe?

- Leafland


That could be. Thing is, Franson made about 100k less than Gunnarson last year and emerged as a better player at the end of the season. Can't fault the guy for wanting more than him.
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Aug 26 @ 10:32 PM ET
Based on how he has improved I'de give Franson 4.5 a year in a heart beat. Top four, can score, and is pretty solid at the toughest time, playoffs.
- aminnes


Hard to say, but if it were me, my limit would be 4 million tops.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Aug 26 @ 10:34 PM ET
Hard to say, but if it were me, my limit would be 4 million tops.
- Gunslinger


I see him as a top pairing guy in maybe two years the way he's improved. RC does nice work with d-men, I just like what I see. If he was a little meaner with his size he'de be a very good player, and although he hasn't played too much against top lines, again, IMO i think he's well on his way.
Stee-Dot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: obiwanmcgregor is connecting to EA servers...
Joined: 08.25.2013

Aug 26 @ 10:36 PM ET
Guys... at the end of the day, someone's gotta get moved.

We are not getting both for under 5.

Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Aug 26 @ 10:38 PM ET
Guys... at the end of the day, someone's gotta get moved.

We are not getting both for under 5.

- Stee-Dot

Players going in order of best chance.

Franson
Gunnarsson
Reimer
Liles
Kulemin



Phanuef


Kadri
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 26 @ 10:38 PM ET
Guys... at the end of the day, someone's gotta get moved.

We are not getting both for under 5.

- Stee-Dot


Probably so. Either Liles or Kulimen have to be moved. Neither is as important as Kadri and or Franson.
Stee-Dot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: obiwanmcgregor is connecting to EA servers...
Joined: 08.25.2013

Aug 26 @ 10:40 PM ET
Players going in order of best chance.

Franson
Gunnarsson
Reimer
Liles
Kulemin



Phanuef


Kadri

- Leafland

Sadly I was hoping Liles would top that list.
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Aug 26 @ 10:41 PM ET
Players going in order of best chance.

Franson
Gunnarsson
Reimer
Liles
Kulemin



Phanuef


Kadri

- Leafland


They just signed Gunnar. Kulemin has a better chance of being traded than Liles. We don't have the depth at G to trade Reimer...not sure if this post is serious or not...so much wrong with it.
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Aug 26 @ 10:41 PM ET
Guys... at the end of the day, someone's gotta get moved.

We are not getting both for under 5.

- Stee-Dot



Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Aug 26 @ 10:42 PM ET
Regardless of where he ends up, RFAs with his track record simply do not get paid big time. They get bridge deals.

He could turn out to be the next Wayne Gretzky, but there's no way he's got the leverage to demand anything more than 3.5 on a bridge deal at this point.

He can have 4 mil per year if he's willing to eat up some UFA years.

- Leeman4Gilmour


you must have missed the Henrique signing....that was kinda the point.
RFA's with his track record do indeed get long term deals.
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