Total luck. You telling me that Lupul and Gardiner wasn't pure luck?
- honesthockey

No. Not at all.

Bob Murray was an idiot, but that isn't luck.

Blowzak

and

GODiner
- BlowMonkey

Krapdri

and

FRansom

The whole point of there being nothing in the prospect pool when Burke got here. This is just getting ugly now. Come on, you can't be this dense.
- systemtool

Hey dumbass I'm pointing out even the Stanley cup champions have more players in their lineup drafted in the same time frame as Burke was GM here.

And I'll say he's way overrated. But I respect your opinion.
- honesthockey

Well it'll be interesting to see how the core he put together in TO does this year and for the next few. His reputation is still to be fully determined. Still, if I recall correctly since 1967 only a couple of dozen gms have Stanely Cup rings and Burke is one of them.

No. Not at all.

Bob Murray was an idiot, but that isn't luck.
- RogerRoeper

ok then.

he always wanted to be a HAb.
- BingoLady

P.K always wanted to be a Leaf.....wanna trade?

Hey look, it's old man HH not knowing anything.

What else is new?

Hey dumbass I'm pointing out even the Stanley cup champions have more players in their lineup drafted in the same time frame as Burke was GM here.
- honesthockey

Name them. I'm still waiting for Holmgren's list.

ok then.
- honesthockey

So Bob Murray played that situation well? It's one of, if not the worst example of asset management the last few years.

Hey dumbass I'm pointing out even the Stanley cup champions have more players in their lineup drafted in the same time frame as Burke was GM here.
- honesthockey

You're just melting down now. Have a good tirade.

It's not Burkes fault that when he got here he had no quality prospects to force into his line up. Please, just stop already. This is pathetic.

trade Kadri for Grabo

You're just melting down now. Have a good tirade.

It's not Burkes fault that when he got here he had no quality prospects to force into his line up. Please, just stop already. This is pathetic.
- systemtool

Should have went with guys that we drafted.

Therefor, he must think Bozak wouldnt be playing.


Herp a Derp.

Well it'll be interesting to see how the core he put together in TO does this year and for the next few. His reputation is still to be fully determined. Still, if I recall correctly since 1967 only a couple of dozen gms have Stanely Cup rings and Burke is one of them.
- Zezel

And most agree Burke inherited that lineup. I'll give him credit for adding Scott Niedermayer or should I credit Niedermayers brother.

Burke inherited the biggest mess in the NHl in 2009'. He did a solid job. Especially considering how much crap he was getting. The Kessel trade sert the Leafs back 15 years. I believe I kept hearing that

Total luck. You telling me that Lupul and Gardiner wasn't pure luck?
- honesthockey

Drafting a superstar in late rounds is luck, making a trade that works really well is savvy.

Should have went with guys that we drafted.

Therefor, he must think Bozak wouldnt be playing.


Herp a Derp.
- jbold

Agreed. He just didn't draft well enough to make this true.

And most agree Burke inherited that lineup. I'll give him credit for adding Scott Niedermayer or should I credit Niedermayers brother.
- honesthockey

And that's always been a myth. Burke changed 100% of Anaheim's defense. But he inherited the team?

Burke actually built much more of Vancouver than Bryan Murray did in Anaheim.

Hey dumbass I'm pointing out even the Stanley cup champions have more players in their lineup drafted in the same time frame as Burke was GM here.
- honesthockey

No need for name calling. (and that's not just at you)

And that's great that Chicago have more guys drafted in their lineup. Burke on the other hand is someone who preferred giving guys time to grow. Even Bobby Ryan, 2nd overall pick, did three years in the minors to get ready, then came in and delivered.

Drafting a superstar in late rounds is luck, making a trade that works really well is savvy.
- Zezel

Or extremely lucky.

Should have went with guys that we drafted.

Therefor, he must think Bozak wouldnt be playing.


Herp a Derp.
- jbold

This guy is epic.

Agreed. He just didn't draft well enough to make this true.
- honesthockey

There you have it. Bozak shouldnt be playing on the Leafs.

His boytoy finally admits Bozak isnt that good.

Agreed. He just didn't draft well enough to make this true.
- honesthockey

Any drafts picks that don't make the NHL in 2-3 years are all busts.

No need for name calling. (and that's not just at you)

And that's great that Chicago have more guys drafted in their lineup. Burke on the other hand is someone who preferred giving guys time to grow. Even Bobby Ryan, 2nd overall pick, did three years in the minors to get ready, then came in and delivered.
- lumlums

That's fine. I just don't see all these NHLers in the Leaf system.

Or extremely lucky.
- honesthockey

So what was lucky about Anaheim? Bob Murray just made a terrible move not re-signing Beauchemin to begin with. Gardiner was a first round pick, it's not exactly some fluke he looks promising.

This guy is epic.
- systemtool

It's pretty sad how uneducated he is about hockey.

He's basically a walking contradiction.


Bozak is only playing in the NHL because Burke didnt draft well enough, but Bozak is great and SHOULD be the leafs first line center.



This guy man... Wow.