gravyface
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Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown Joined: 02.19.2009
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If players of the ilk of Duschene and Subban can take a bridge contract, so will Kadri. Just settle down and breathe. The sky's not falling. - fifty__missions
Yes, and mentioning Kadri in the same breath as Duschene or Subban at their respective points in their careers is a bit absurd: half a year a long-term contract does not make.
My only fear is that Kadri is buying into the hype (and I wouldn't put it past him given his cockiness) and truly thinks he's "arrived" and is using guys like that as comparables. When you were putting up nearly a PPG in the AHL, Kadri, guys like Duschene were doing that in the NHL, on a non-playoff team for the most part. |
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honesthockey
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Click heels twice and 1c appears. Joined: 09.23.2008
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The irony of everyone ripping Burke and then him getting fired (not due to performance or hockey related) is amazing. Burke is looking so much better as time goes on. I'm fine with nonis, but Burke did a very good job. - burn
Hence the buyouts.
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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Real men always have to poo, ON Joined: 09.12.2007
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This reporting about kadri (and Simmons) is a perfect example of why the media is so terrible. - burn
The media isn't so bad. Its not like they're going to Reimers mom and asking her about concussions and his injury. Stuff like that never happens in Toronto. Just markets like Nashville and Columbus. |
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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Real men always have to poo, ON Joined: 09.12.2007
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Hence the buyouts. - honesthockey
Every team has players that should be bought out. Its not exclusive to Brian Burke. The issue is whether cap limitations force them into it or if the teams owner/budget will allow it. We have cash to throw around, might as well use it to our advantage. |
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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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Hence the buyouts. - honesthockey
And the multiple trades stealing talent. I'm ok with it. |
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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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Every team has players that should be bought out. Its not exclusive to Brian Burke. The issue is whether cap limitations force them into it or if the teams owner/budget will allow it. We have cash to throw around, might as well use it to our advantage. - systemtool
I'll take the buyouts(because of the cap) + the talent accumulated. The good far outweighs the bad, it's not even close. |
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Berserker
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Castle Grayskull Joined: 06.18.2011
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If he's demanding 5-6 million, then he's got his head up his ass and it has nothing to do with Bozak. He's not playing on this roster for that kind of money regardless of whether or not Bozak is around.
Some people are trying to make it into a "Nonis (frank)ed up the cap" issue. It's not. It's a "Kadri is a prima donna who bought his own hype" issue.
Also, what's the over/under on how many games Kadri misses this year before he realizes he's got no leverage and has to take a two year deal comparable to Subban's? By all means, he can sit out the entirety of 2013/14 if he likes. I'm sure that will do wonders for his market value. - Leeman4Gilmour
There's no Bozak/Grabo rationalizing with The President or Big Dion. I get that they're upset we lost Grabo (and for nothing at that), but the gazillion posts raging on Bozak like it's his fault defies logic. I said it in the EK post the other day, Kadri cost Grabo his job, not Bozak. Bozak is a different player who started the season, ended the season and was resigned in the same position as 1C. It was Kadri that played onto the roster as 3C at the start of the season, out played Grabo to get 2C during the season, and forced Grabo into a poorly suited 3C. Buying out that brutal 5.5M contract for a guy playing 3C was a must to reset the team payroll for centres. Any UFA centre we could have chased and especially Kadri would just point to that as the teams value on centres.
I still think Kadri takes a 2 year bridge deal at just under 3M/year midway through training camp once he sees Carlyle testing other players like Bolland or Colborne at 2C. I don't think he misses a single regular season game. |
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honesthockey
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Click heels twice and 1c appears. Joined: 09.23.2008
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And the multiple trades stealing talent. I'm ok with it. - burn
He did both good and bad. In my opinion he was very average as a GM here.
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honesthockey
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Click heels twice and 1c appears. Joined: 09.23.2008
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There's no Bozak/Grabo rationalizing with The President or Big Dion. I get that they're upset we lost Grabo (and for nothing at that), but the gazillion posts raging on Bozak like it's his fault defies logic. I said it in the EK post the other day, Kadri cost Grabo his job, not Bozak. Bozak is a different player who started the season, ended the season and was resigned in the same position as 1C. It was Kadri that played onto the roster as 3C at the start of the season, out played Grabo to get 2C during the season, and forced Grabo into a poorly suited 3C. Buying out that brutal 5.5M contract for a guy playing 3C was a must to reset the team payroll for centres. Any UFA centre we could have chased and especially Kadri would just point to that as the teams value on centres.
I still think Kadri takes a 2 year bridge deal at just under 3M/year midway through training camp once he sees Carlyle testing other players like Bolland or Colborne at 2C. I don't think he misses a single regular season game. - Berserker
Grabovski's true value was shown this week. Twenty nine teams had a shot at him and he signs for 1 year at $3 mil. Wreaks of a prove yourself deal after several years in the league. Way overrated by Leaf fans.
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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Real men always have to poo, ON Joined: 09.12.2007
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He did both good and bad. In my opinion he was very average as a GM here. - honesthockey
Perhaps, if he came to a team that was average, you would have a point. He took over a team with no good young players, no prospects and no future. The job he had done to transform this team is a grade above average. Then again, you're not the sharpest spoon in the jacket, so that does explain your absurd and off the wall comments. |
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CarlitoBrigante
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 01.22.2012
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If your Kadri, and think your the greatest already...why not take a 2 yr for now, rack up 2 solid seasons as top 3 leafs scorer and then get a 5 or 6 yr deal in 2015 at $6-7 mill per? |
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honesthockey
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Click heels twice and 1c appears. Joined: 09.23.2008
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Perhaps, if he came to a team that was average, you would have a point. He took over a team with no good young players, no prospects and no future. The job he had done to transform this team is a grade above average. Then again, you're not the sharpest spoon in the jacket, so that does explain your absurd and off the wall comments. - systemtool
It was painfully obvious what needed done. Any GM brought in would have done the same you make it sound like nothing would have been done. Give your head a shake. Nonis may have done even better with the organization. |
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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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Hence the buyouts. - honesthockey
Virtually every team has contracts they later regret. He got the Leafs Kessel, JVR, Gardiner, Lupul, Phaneuf, Franson. He did a great job building the team without doing it the Edmonton way. |
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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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It was painfully obvious what needed done. Any GM brought in would have done the same you make it sound like nothing would have been done. Give your head a shake. - honesthockey
What GM builds the way Burke did? It was very unconventional. |
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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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And the multiple trades stealing talent. I'm ok with it. - burn
Burke was the master at trades. To think of how badly he was ripped. It looks ridiculous now. |
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honesthockey
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Click heels twice and 1c appears. Joined: 09.23.2008
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Virtually every team has contracts they later regret. He got the Leafs Kessel, JVR, Gardiner, Lupul, Phaneuf, Franson. He did a great job building the team without doing it the Edmonton way. - RogerRoeper
He also signed Komisarek, Grabovski and Liles to ridicules contracts but hey let's forget those.
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honesthockey
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Click heels twice and 1c appears. Joined: 09.23.2008
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What GM builds the way Burke did? It was very unconventional. - RogerRoeper
Explain? |
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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Real men always have to poo, ON Joined: 09.12.2007
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He also signed Komisarek, Grabovski and Liles to ridicules contracts but hey let's forget those. - honesthockey
Every team makes bad signings, its not exclusive to Burke. You're an idiot. |
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lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.25.2011
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He also signed Komisarek, Grabovski and Liles to ridicules contracts but hey let's forget those. - honesthockey
Why would he ridicule the contract? |
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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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Good move by the Caps, should be an improvement over Ribero. - Talkshowhost
No chance. Ribeiro is a better hockey player. He was PPG. last season(49 points in 48 games). Grabovski had 16 points in 48 games. |
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honesthockey
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Click heels twice and 1c appears. Joined: 09.23.2008
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Every team makes bad signings, its not exclusive to Burke. You're an idiot. - systemtool
How many teams used 2 compliance buyouts and coulda used a 3rd? You are the idiot with his head up his ass.
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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Real men always have to poo, ON Joined: 09.12.2007
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It was painfully obvious what needed done. Any GM brought in would have done the same you make it sound like nothing would have been done. Give your head a shake. Nonis may have done even better with the organization. - honesthockey
It was painfully obvious over a decade ago. It didn't get done until Burke got here. There is a reason why and that reason is that not all GMs can do the same job. It's also the reason Burke has a cup ring and many others don't.
I would suggest giving your head a shake too, but I fear so many shakes have damaged you enough to get you to this point. You know what is becoming painfully obvious? Why your intelligence is often in question and why everyone has made you a laughing stock in these threads. |
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honesthockey
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Click heels twice and 1c appears. Joined: 09.23.2008
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Why would he ridicule the contract? - lumlums
Thanks Captain right word check.
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BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB Joined: 07.15.2009
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How many teams used 2 compliance buyouts and coulda used a 3rd? You are the idiot with his head up his ass. - honesthockey
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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Real men always have to poo, ON Joined: 09.12.2007
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How many teams used 2 compliance buyouts and coulda used a 3rd? You are the idiot with his head up his ass. - honesthockey
The same number of teams that are the richest team in the league. One. I may have my head up his ass, but you're wandering around in there asking floating turds for direction.
Toronto can afford it and have the luxury to fix their mistakes. Most teams don't have that luxury. |
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