Only one game on NBC? That seems pretty low considering how big the Flyers are in the States.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=430333

does this mean anything??? G will still like make the team, right?

Only one game on NBC? That seems pretty low considering how big the Flyers are in the States.
- PhillySportsGuy

That could end up changing. But don't forget that the NBC broadcasts are in second half of the season -- and on weekend afternoons except for playoffs -- and the NHL will shut down in February for Olympics.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=430333

does this mean anything??? G will still like make the team, right?
- FLYERSROCK!

Still a shoo-in, IMO.

Still a shoo-in, IMO.
- bmeltzer

Yep, but I'm still not a fan of NHL'ers in the Olympics.

For Claude's sake, I'm sure he wants to play in it and I wish him well and will be rooting for him (except against the US...), but as a fan and STH, I'd prefer no Flyer played in the Olympics with the regular season stretch drive and playoffs around the corner.

Thanks for the link, Bill. Printing out the schedule in that format and putting it on my wall at work is an annual tradition. Now to itch for hockey for 3+ weeks.

Can't wait for the season to start!

That could end up changing. But don't forget that the NBC broadcasts are in second half of the season -- and on weekend afternoons except for playoffs -- and the NHL will shut down in February for Olympics.
- bmeltzer

I'm assuming NBC has some flex scheduling. If the Flyers are good, I' sure they'll find a way to get a Pens/Flyers or Rangers/Flyers game on Sunday on NBC.

Guys should look at these comments on TSN about Giroux... unreal with the hate

1. drop his from the roster, he's not a big cog in the machine

2. I don't expect him to make the team. His claim to fame came from Jagr and he struggled last year.

3. This guy had one big year 95 points I think, that was the year he had Jagr on his right wing. very simular to Danny Heatly having 5 goals in an all star game, when he had Jagr on his right wing and he got 5 assists lol Jagr makes guys look good

unreal

Man, I really wish the season would start already, I'm starting to run out of ideas for top 10 lists! Oh well here goes nothing; The top 10 teams in Flyers history.

1. 74-75 The 2nd cup team was even better than the first. Replacing Bill Flett with Reggie Leach was a big upgrade and the continued development of Jimmy Watson coupled with the acquisition of veteran dman Ted Harris offset the loss of Barry Ashbee. This squad was just as good as good defensively as the first cup team, but were better offensively.

2. 73-74 The 1st cup team was simply great defensively. While the offense dropped off some from 72-73, the combo of hard work, unreal penalty killing and the amazing play of Bernie Parent took this club to a new level.

3. 75-76 This team was simply loaded! Led by the LCB line up front which featured Hart trophy winner Bobby Clarke at center, 1st team all star Bill Barber at left wing and 2nd team all star and 61 goal scorer Reggie Leach at right wing, this team was an unstoppable machine. As good as Montreal was that season, if Parent and Macleish had both been healthy, the Flyers might have very well made it a hat trick in 76.

4. 85-86 Before you say, hey that club got knocked out by the Rangers in the 1st round, what the heck are you talking about, just hear me out. The 85-86 club prior to the Lindbergh tragedy was simply dominant. Many experts at that point, felt it was the Flyers, not the 2 time champion Edmonton Oilers, that were the team to beat. Even after Lindbergh's death, the club performed at the highest level finishing with 110 points. It was also the last time that the Flyers would go into the playoffs with a relatively healthy Tim Kerr and Mark Howe. Sadly, they were just emotionally spent by the time the playoffs rolled around and were upset by the Rangers. Still all in all, they were an amazing team.

5. 79-80 The streak! This team was proof that sometimes the whole is just greater then the sum of its parts. Pete Peeters and Phil Myre both provided excellent goaltending. Call ups Norm Barnes, Frank Bathe and Mike Busniuk bailed out a thin D and up front this club was loaded. Clarke, Barber, Leach and Macleish were still impact players while Paul Holmgren was in his prime and Ken Linseman and rookie Brian Propp added speed and skill. If only Leon Stickle hadn't blown the most obvious offsides call in playoff history it may have come down to a game 7 at the Spectrum and perhaps a 3rd Flyers cup.

6. 86-87 Certainly the deepest and most resilient of the Keenan era clubs, this team took the powerhouse Edmonton Oilers to a 7th game before losing the cup. Led by Dave Poulin, Mark Howe and the incredible goaltending of Ron Hextall this club would most likely have won a cup in most other eras. Considering the amount of injuries they were dealing with and the amount of hall of fame players on the Oilers, just getting to game 7 was a huge accomplishment and Hextall's Conn Smythe Trophy was very well deserved.

7. 84-85 The first Keenan club was as hard working a team as I have ever seen. As Jay Greenberg put it, the veterans were sick enough of losing in the 1st round that they bought into Keenans system wholeheartedly and the kids were too happy to just be in the NHL to complain. Considering that half the squad were either rookies or 2nd year players, to finish with the best regular season record in the NHL and make it to the finals was a heck of an accomplishment.

8. 72-73 The first really good team in Flyers history was also the first to win a playoff round, dispatching the Minnesota North Stars in 6 games in the quarterfinals. They went on to win game 1 and score 1st in game 2 against the Montreal Canadiens (nearly giving Habs fans a lot of heart attacks!) before finally succumbing to the champs. They were basically a goalie away from the cup.

9. 96-97 The best team of the Lindros era, they endured an up and down regular season due to injuries more than anything else. However once the playoffs started, they were a buzzsaw, going 12-3 in the 1st 3 rounds and dominating the Eastern conference playoffs. Sadly subpar goaltending and fine coaching from the Red Wings Scotty Bowman brought the team to a crashing halt in the finals and led to the best forgotten Wayne Cashman era. The relationship between the club and Lindros was never really the same after this season either.

10. 94-95 The first really good club of the Lindros era barely edged out the 03-04 team. The Recchi trade which brought Leclair and Desjardins to the team lit a fire under them and they never looked back that year. Well at least not until a really soft goal by Claude Lemieux was let in by Hextall in the conference finals. Still after 5 straight horrible seasons, this team was a breath of fresh air.

Just barely missed the cut
03-04 Sami Kapanen on D, Keith Primeau doing his Superman impression, huge goals by Roenick and Gagne, the list goes on and on. This team was just so much fun to watch and 2 healthy defensmen away from a cup.They are a very close #11 on my list.

Just missed the cut
95-96 great regular season, lousy playoffs
07-08 an amazing turnaround after the season from hell
09-10 lousy regular season, great playoffs

Guys should look at these comments on TSN about Giroux... unreal with the hate

1. drop his from the roster, he's not a big cog in the machine

2. I don't expect him to make the team. His claim to fame came from Jagr and he struggled last year.

3. This guy had one big year 95 points I think, that was the year he had Jagr on his right wing. very simular to Danny Heatly having 5 goals in an all star game, when he had Jagr on his right wing and he got 5 assists lol Jagr makes guys look good

unreal
- FLYERSROCK!

Who cares what those nitwits thinks?

Hell, as a fan, I'd be fine if he's dropped from the roster. He'd come back and play through the rest of the season like his hair was on fire.

Man, I really wish the season would start already, I'm starting to run out of ideas for top 10 lists! Oh well here goes nothing; The top 10 teams in Flyers history.

1. 74-75 The 2nd cup team was even better than the first. Replacing Bill Flett with Reggie Leach was a big upgrade and the continued development of Jimmy Watson coupled with the acquisition of veteran dman Ted Harris offset the loss of Barry Ashbee. This squad was just as good as good defensively as the first cup team, but were better offensively.

2. 73-74 The 1st cup team was simply great defensively. While the offense dropped off some from 72-73, the combo of hard work, unreal penalty killing and the amazing play of Bernie Parent took this club to a new level.

3. 75-76 This team was simply loaded! Led by the LCB line up front which featured Hart trophy winner Bobby Clarke at center, 1st team all star Bill Barber at left wing and 2nd team all star and 61 goal scorer Reggie Leach at right wing, this team was an unstoppable machine. As good as Montreal was that season, if Parent and Macleish had both been healthy, the Flyers might have very well made it a hat trick in 76.

4. 85-86 Before you say, hey that club got knocked out by the Rangers in the 1st round, what the heck are you talking about, just hear me out. The 85-86 club prior to the Lindbergh tragedy was simply dominant. Many experts at that point, felt it was the Flyers, not the 2 time champion Edmonton Oilers, that were the team to beat. Even after Lindbergh's death, the club performed at the highest level finishing with 110 points. It was also the last time that the Flyers would go into the playoffs with a relatively healthy Tim Kerr and Mark Howe. Sadly, they were just emotionally spent by the time the playoffs rolled around and were upset by the Rangers. Still all in all, they were an amazing team.

5. 79-80 The streak! This team was proof that sometimes the whole is just greater then the sum of its parts. Pete Peeters and Phil Myre both provided excellent goaltending. Call ups Norm Barnes, Frank Bathe and Mike Busniuk bailed out a thin D and up front this club was loaded. Clarke, Barber, Leach and Macleish were still impact players while Paul Holmgren was in his prime and Ken Linseman and rookie Brian Propp added speed and skill. If only Leon Stickle hadn't blown the most obvious offsides call in playoff history it may have come down to a game 7 at the Spectrum and perhaps a 3rd Flyers cup.

6. 86-87 Certainly the deepest and most resilient of the Keenan era clubs, this team took the powerhouse Edmonton Oilers to a 7th game before losing the cup. Led by Dave Poulin, Mark Howe and the incredible goaltending of Ron Hextall this club would most likely have won a cup in most other eras. Considering the amount of injuries they were dealing with and the amount of hall of fame players on the Oilers, just getting to game 7 was a huge accomplishment and Hextall's Conn Smythe Trophy was very well deserved.

7. 84-85 The first Keenan club was as hard working a team as I have ever seen. As Jay Greenberg put it, the veterans were sick enough of losing in the 1st round that they bought into Keenans system wholeheartedly and the kids were too happy to just be in the NHL to complain. Considering that half the squad were either rookies or 2nd year players, to finish with the best regular season record in the NHL and make it to the finals was a heck of an accomplishment.

8. 72-73 The first really good team in Flyers history was also the first to win a playoff round, dispatching the Minnesota North Stars in 6 games in the quarterfinals. They went on to win game 1 and score 1st in game 2 against the Montreal Canadiens (nearly giving Habs fans a lot of heart attacks!) before finally succumbing to the champs. They were basically a goalie away from the cup.

9. 96-97 The best team of the Lindros era, they endured an up and down regular season due to injuries more than anything else. However once the playoffs started, they were a buzzsaw, going 12-3 in the 1st 3 rounds and dominating the Eastern conference playoffs. Sadly subpar goaltending and fine coaching from the Red Wings Scotty Bowman brought the team to a crashing halt in the finals and led to the best forgotten Wayne Cashman era. The relationship between the club and Lindros was never really the same after this season either.

10. 94-95 The first really good club of the Lindros era barely edged out the 03-04 team. The Recchi trade which brought Leclair and Desjardins to the team lit a fire under them and they never looked back that year. Well at least not until a really soft goal by Claude Lemieux was let in by Hextall in the conference finals. Still after 5 straight horrible seasons, this team was a breath of fresh air.

Just barely missed the cut
03-04 Sami Kapanen on D, Keith Primeau doing his Superman impression, huge goals by Roenick and Gagne, the list goes on and on. This team was just so much fun to watch and 2 healthy defensmen away from a cup.They are a very close #11 on my list.

Just missed the cut
95-96 great regular season, lousy playoffs
07-08 an amazing turnaround after the season from hell
09-10 lousy regular season, great playoffs
- BiggE

My 2 cents: I'd put 85-86 team lower and possibly exclude them in favor of the 03-04 team.

My 2 cents: I'd put 85-86 team lower and possibly exclude them in favor of the 03-04 team.
- johndewar

That 1985-86 team was actually the best team of the Keenan era. They were just emotionally spent by the spring after the Lindbergh tragedy. Also, Froese (despite being an All-Star and the Vezina runner-up) was not of the same caliber in goal as Pelle and Vanbiesbrouck played out of his mind in that first round series. I believe in my heart of hearts that if Lindbergh hadn't died, that team and not Montreal would have won the Cup that year, especially since Edmonton didn't make it to the Finals that year.

That 1985-86 team was actually the best team of the Keenan era. They were just emotionally spent by the spring after the Lindbergh tragedy. Also, Froese (despite being an All-Star and the Vezina runner-up) was not of the same caliber in goal as Pelle and Vanbiesbrouck played out of his mind in that first round series. I believe in my heart of hearts that if Lindbergh hadn't died, that team and not Montreal would have won the Cup that year, especially since Edmonton didn't make it to the Finals that year.
- bmeltzer

If you look at all the things that have happened since the Flyers last Cup win, it really is amazing at all the misfortune. No need to rehash all the different events, but with any luck at all the Flyers franchise could be sitting on 5+ Cups.

My 2 cents: I'd put 85-86 team lower and possibly exclude them in favor of the 03-04 team.
- johndewar

im young, wasnt even born till the 90's but even i know that 85-86 team was dominant, and as Bill said I think we take the cup that year if Lindbergh hadn't had died. Something like that you just dont recover from.
i think its an awesome list TBH

That 1985-86 team was actually the best team of the Keenan era. They were just emotionally spent by the spring after the Lindbergh tragedy. Also, Froese (despite being an All-Star and the Vezina runner-up) was not of the same caliber in goal as Pelle and Vanbiesbrouck played out of his mind in that first round series. I believe in my heart of hearts that if Lindbergh hadn't died, that team and not Montreal would have won the Cup that year, especially since Edmonton didn't make it to the Finals that year.
- bmeltzer

I agree with you and remember that year well. That was Edmonton's "Steve Smith Year". It was also Patrick Roy's rookie year. Lots could have happened between that Ranger series and the rest of the playoffs.

But what happened, happened.

I'm just not sure I'd rank them that much more highly than say, the last time John Vanbiesbrouck beat the Flyers in a playoff series when the Flyers entered the series as the Number 1 seed in the East (i.e.-- 1996).

Would the Flyers have the option of refusing to allow their players to play in the Olympics? I'm sure there are clauses in there that won't allow them to go play in other leagues while under contract (AHL exluded, and lockout excluded), so it seems like they should have the ability to stop them from participating...although it might make some players pissed off.

Who cares what those nitwits thinks?

Hell, as a fan, I'd be fine if he's dropped from the roster. He'd come back and play through the rest of the season like his hair was on fire.
- johndewar

pretty sure if crim were here he'd thumbs up this post.

That 1985-86 team was actually the best team of the Keenan era. They were just emotionally spent by the spring after the Lindbergh tragedy. Also, Froese (despite being an All-Star and the Vezina runner-up) was not of the same caliber in goal as Pelle and Vanbiesbrouck played out of his mind in that first round series. I believe in my heart of hearts that if Lindbergh hadn't died, that team and not Montreal would have won the Cup that year, especially since Edmonton didn't make it to the Finals that year.
- bmeltzer

i agree. this is so depressing.

Would the Flyers have the option of refusing to allow their players to play in the Olympics? I'm sure there are clauses in there that won't allow them to go play in other leagues while under contract (AHL exluded, and lockout excluded), so it seems like they should have the ability to stop them from participating...although it might make some players pissed off.
- jmatchett383

They do not have that option.

Man, I really wish the season would start already, I'm starting to run out of ideas for top 10 lists! Oh well here goes nothing; The top 10 teams in Flyers history.

1. 74-75 The 2nd cup team was even better than the first. Replacing Bill Flett with Reggie Leach was a big upgrade and the continued development of Jimmy Watson coupled with the acquisition of veteran dman Ted Harris offset the loss of Barry Ashbee. This squad was just as good as good defensively as the first cup team, but were better offensively.

2. 73-74 The 1st cup team was simply great defensively. While the offense dropped off some from 72-73, the combo of hard work, unreal penalty killing and the amazing play of Bernie Parent took this club to a new level.

3. 75-76 This team was simply loaded! Led by the LCB line up front which featured Hart trophy winner Bobby Clarke at center, 1st team all star Bill Barber at left wing and 2nd team all star and 61 goal scorer Reggie Leach at right wing, this team was an unstoppable machine. As good as Montreal was that season, if Parent and Macleish had both been healthy, the Flyers might have very well made it a hat trick in 76.

4. 85-86 Before you say, hey that club got knocked out by the Rangers in the 1st round, what the heck are you talking about, just hear me out. The 85-86 club prior to the Lindbergh tragedy was simply dominant. Many experts at that point, felt it was the Flyers, not the 2 time champion Edmonton Oilers, that were the team to beat. Even after Lindbergh's death, the club performed at the highest level finishing with 110 points. It was also the last time that the Flyers would go into the playoffs with a relatively healthy Tim Kerr and Mark Howe. Sadly, they were just emotionally spent by the time the playoffs rolled around and were upset by the Rangers. Still all in all, they were an amazing team.

5. 79-80 The streak! This team was proof that sometimes the whole is just greater then the sum of its parts. Pete Peeters and Phil Myre both provided excellent goaltending. Call ups Norm Barnes, Frank Bathe and Mike Busniuk bailed out a thin D and up front this club was loaded. Clarke, Barber, Leach and Macleish were still impact players while Paul Holmgren was in his prime and Ken Linseman and rookie Brian Propp added speed and skill. If only Leon Stickle hadn't blown the most obvious offsides call in playoff history it may have come down to a game 7 at the Spectrum and perhaps a 3rd Flyers cup.

6. 86-87 Certainly the deepest and most resilient of the Keenan era clubs, this team took the powerhouse Edmonton Oilers to a 7th game before losing the cup. Led by Dave Poulin, Mark Howe and the incredible goaltending of Ron Hextall this club would most likely have won a cup in most other eras. Considering the amount of injuries they were dealing with and the amount of hall of fame players on the Oilers, just getting to game 7 was a huge accomplishment and Hextall's Conn Smythe Trophy was very well deserved.

7. 84-85 The first Keenan club was as hard working a team as I have ever seen. As Jay Greenberg put it, the veterans were sick enough of losing in the 1st round that they bought into Keenans system wholeheartedly and the kids were too happy to just be in the NHL to complain. Considering that half the squad were either rookies or 2nd year players, to finish with the best regular season record in the NHL and make it to the finals was a heck of an accomplishment.

8. 72-73 The first really good team in Flyers history was also the first to win a playoff round, dispatching the Minnesota North Stars in 6 games in the quarterfinals. They went on to win game 1 and score 1st in game 2 against the Montreal Canadiens (nearly giving Habs fans a lot of heart attacks!) before finally succumbing to the champs. They were basically a goalie away from the cup.

9. 96-97 The best team of the Lindros era, they endured an up and down regular season due to injuries more than anything else. However once the playoffs started, they were a buzzsaw, going 12-3 in the 1st 3 rounds and dominating the Eastern conference playoffs. Sadly subpar goaltending and fine coaching from the Red Wings Scotty Bowman brought the team to a crashing halt in the finals and led to the best forgotten Wayne Cashman era. The relationship between the club and Lindros was never really the same after this season either.

10. 94-95 The first really good club of the Lindros era barely edged out the 03-04 team. The Recchi trade which brought Leclair and Desjardins to the team lit a fire under them and they never looked back that year. Well at least not until a really soft goal by Claude Lemieux was let in by Hextall in the conference finals. Still after 5 straight horrible seasons, this team was a breath of fresh air.

Just barely missed the cut
03-04 Sami Kapanen on D, Keith Primeau doing his Superman impression, huge goals by Roenick and Gagne, the list goes on and on. This team was just so much fun to watch and 2 healthy defensmen away from a cup.They are a very close #11 on my list.

Just missed the cut
95-96 great regular season, lousy playoffs
07-08 an amazing turnaround after the season from hell
09-10 lousy regular season, great playoffs
- BiggE

awesome list sir

im so jealous that some of you go back far enough to have lived through those seasons and known all those teams

Who cares what those nitwits thinks?

Hell, as a fan, I'd be fine if he's dropped from the roster. He'd come back and play through the rest of the season like his hair was on fire.
- johndewar

That's what happens when the cable company owns the team
- Jsaquella

Always a price to pay

- Crimsoninja

awesome list sir

im so jealous that some of you go back far enough to have lived through those seasons and known all those teams
- Crimsoninja

Yeah but on the other hand, I'm old!