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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 24 @ 3:05 PM ET
This
- AlexF


But is that what those charged with running the organization think?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 24 @ 3:07 PM ET
I said it had to be by mutual consent.
- AlexF



Still won't be approved by NHLPA.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 24 @ 3:17 PM ET
What would happen if Luongo retired after the Olympics and came back next year . Would Vancouver have penalties and would they have the option to give up his rights when he returns?
Sheppy99
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.10.2009

Aug 24 @ 3:33 PM ET
What would happen if Luongo retired after the Olympics and came back next year . Would Vancouver have penalties and would they have the option to give up his rights when he returns?
- VANTEL



Wow, I take it you watched the Luongo interview as well
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 24 @ 3:34 PM ET
What would happen if Luongo retired after the Olympics and came back next year . Would Vancouver have penalties and would they have the option to give up his rights when he returns?
- VANTEL


Yes, if Luongo retires then they have to pay back the cap savings (a little over $1m for the following 8 years) from the first few years. I think if he "un-retires" he still has a contract to honour, but I could be mistaken.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Aug 24 @ 3:34 PM ET
What would happen if Luongo retired after the Olympics and came back next year . Would Vancouver have penalties and would they have the option to give up his rights when he returns?
- VANTEL

I doubt it since the contract won't come off the books.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 24 @ 3:36 PM ET
I doubt it since the contract won't come off the books.
- Yeti1181


If he wanted to be a Dyck he could use that as leverage to be bought out.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 24 @ 3:38 PM ET
If he wanted to be a Dyck he could use that as leverage to be bought out.
- VANTEL


Except that if he retires he's not going to get another contract, so he'd be being a dyck to himself as well.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 24 @ 3:38 PM ET
Yes, if Luongo retires then they have to pay back the cap savings (a little over $1m for the following 8 years) from the first few years. I think if he "un-retires" he still has a contract to honour, but I could be mistaken.
- 1970vintage


So if Kovy decided to return and the Devils were at Cap Max they would have to take him back? That doesn't seem fair.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 24 @ 3:41 PM ET
So if Kovy decided to return and the Devils were at Cap Max they would have to take him back? That doesn't seem fair.
- VANTEL


Are you suggesting that it is "more fair" that he is allowed to come back as an UFA?
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 24 @ 3:42 PM ET
Still won't be approved by NHLPA.
- VANTEL


Agreed.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Aug 24 @ 3:42 PM ET
He is going to Team Canada gathering next week. It avoids all the media circus he would face there if he didn't speak prior.
- VANTEL

Agreed.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 24 @ 3:45 PM ET
Are you suggesting that it is "more fair" that he is allowed to come back as an UFA?
- 1970vintage


It would be exciting. This way we could have the draft, TDL , Free agency before the start of the season and Retirement UFA day Jan 1 .
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Aug 24 @ 3:47 PM ET
I doubt it since the contract won't come off the books.
- Yeti1181

For luongo to "retire" under the current circumstance he would need to sign papers. Meaning his contract would be terminated, Vancouver would have like a 900k cap hit for like a century and he could never play in the NHL again.
If luongo really wanted to terminate his contract with no cap hit, he could simply refuse to play. So he's full on shyt.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 24 @ 3:50 PM ET
For luongo to "retire" under the current circumstance he would need to sign papers. Meaning his contract would be terminated, Vancouver would have like a 900k cap hit for like a century and he could never play in the NHL again.
If luongo really wanted to terminate his contract with no cap hit, he could simply refuse to play. So he's full on shyt.

- Bieksa#3



would he be able to sign a new contract after the Canucks void his contract ? I seem to remember Boston sold the rights to TT
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Aug 24 @ 3:51 PM ET
My favorite part of this is how Dreger said at the draft Lu found out from the draft he was dealt and the aqunini went to his house after to smooth it over. Funny how luongo has a different story. Tells all young need to know about how gutless and pathetic dreger is. Should be working with NBC or CBC as disgraceful as he has become
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Aug 24 @ 3:53 PM ET
would he be able to sign a new contract after the Canucks void his contract ? I seem to remember Boston sold the rights to TT
- VANTEL

No idea. However Thomas situation is different
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Aug 24 @ 3:56 PM ET
For luongo to "retire" under the current circumstance he would need to sign papers. Meaning his contract would be terminated, Vancouver would have like a 900k cap hit for like a century and he could never play in the NHL again.
If luongo really wanted to terminate his contract with no cap hit, he could simply refuse to play. So he's full on shyt.

- Bieksa#3

To the KHL it is. I actually can't imagine how much he would get over there. First Canadian superstar to defect
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 24 @ 3:57 PM ET
No idea. However Thomas situation is different
- Bieksa#3



All this thinking hurts my brain.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Aug 24 @ 3:57 PM ET
My favorite part of this is how Dreger said at the draft Lu found out from the draft he was dealt and the aqunini went to his house after to smooth it over. Funny how luongo has a different story. Tells all young need to know about how gutless and pathetic dreger is. Should be working with NBC or CBC as disgraceful as he has become
- Bieksa#3

He was pretty close.luo almost did find out from the draft with in seconds. Good thing the owner didn't get stuck in traffic.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 24 @ 3:58 PM ET
To the KHL it is. I actually can't imagine how much he would get over there. First Canadian superstar to defect
- Yeti1181



Did an Oiler fan just call Luongo a superstar
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Aug 24 @ 3:58 PM ET
To the KHL it is. I actually can't imagine how much he would get over there. First Canadian superstar to defect
- Yeti1181

Agreed. But again, he is full of it.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Aug 24 @ 3:59 PM ET
He was pretty close.luo almost did find out from the draft with in seconds. Good thing the owner didn't get stuck in traffic.
- Yeti1181

It may have been close, but the fact it it is one or the other. Dreger has become Healy like
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Aug 24 @ 4:01 PM ET
All this thinking hurts my brain.
- VANTEL

Thomas contract was 35+. Meaning his cap hit couldn't be terminated no matter what
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Aug 24 @ 4:02 PM ET
Did an Oiler fan just call Luongo a superstar
- VANTEL

He's no oilers fan. To smart. I wonder who Morris cheers for actually.
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