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oniremosewa
Location: Astute reader.
Joined: 03.18.2010

Aug 21 @ 12:52 PM ET
Toews is a lot more comparable to Trottier than Stamkos will ever be to Gretzky. And no that isn't a slight on Stamkos. If you wanted to pick an Oiler to make your comparison move valid Kurri would have been more accurate.
- Muskwa


First of all, Kurri was the best two-way player on the Oilers. Sather said he might well have been their most complete forward. I'm not sure Stamkos' game measures up.

But also, what's your comparison based upon? Goal-scoring? Because Gretzky was the league's pre-eminent goal scorer until 1986. And while he hasn't (and let's be honest, won't) dominate the rest of the league to the degree that Gretzky did, the fact remains that Stamos scoring 60 goals in the NHL as it exists today, is every bit as impressive as Gretzky scoring 70+ goals in the early to mid '80s.
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Aug 21 @ 12:52 PM ET
TAVARES
- kcNYI

I thought the Oilers fans told you guys already? Hall is better
Lash8
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 21 @ 12:53 PM ET
Do $2 hookers get beaten?
- paulr


That's a hard deal to beat. I suppose some of them might accept competitor's coupons. I usually try not to analyze statistics based on such a small sample size, though.
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Aug 21 @ 12:54 PM ET
TAVARES
- kcNYI

True but he aint in this one. Wait for the Next blog Tavares vs Hall or Nash
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Aug 21 @ 12:55 PM ET
I thought the Oilers fans told you guys already? Hall is better
- blizzzard

have also heard from Vancouver fans that Hodgson is better. And from Rags fans that Stephan and Nash are better. Nothing surprises me anymore
Artyukhin76
Tampa Bay Lightning
Joined: 07.25.2009

Aug 21 @ 12:55 PM ET
Everyone is taking this to personal They both bring something a little different to the table but both are very effective and there probably is no wrong answer it all depends on your preference when building a team
- blizzzard

Not here. I love an intelligent debate and these guys are providing it.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Aug 21 @ 12:57 PM ET
True but he aint in this one. Wait for the Next blog Tavares vs Hall or Nash
- mighty13duck

Tavares is an up and comer and I think is better than Hall.
BlazinMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 05.08.2013

Aug 21 @ 12:59 PM ET
The guy scores 60 goals a year how much more do they want?
- mighty13duck


Defense, it does no good to score 60 goals a year if you end up giving up 61 haha. I'll admit i dont see enough of Stamkos' games to be able to bash him but generally what i have seen of his defense is nowhere near Toews' defensive abilities. As stated by pretty much everyone...both are great players
Hemeros
Montreal Canadiens
Location: near montreal, QC
Joined: 12.29.2008

Aug 21 @ 1:01 PM ET
Toews all day long ... Center, Captain, 2 Stanley cup champion, Gold medal (olympics) .... this guy is, for me, almost better then Crosby is.
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Aug 21 @ 1:02 PM ET
Stamkos is the best young bonifide sniper in the league... But I can't imagine any circumstance where I would take a healthy Stamkos over a healthy Toews. His intangibles are off the charts.
- busmaster


Exacta-MUNDO
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Aug 21 @ 1:03 PM ET
Before last year I woulda said toews. But after seeing him crying like a baby in the playoffs when things didnt go his way, I would have to say Stammer. Toews also managed to destroy any comparisons he had to Yzerman with his temper tantrums.
- Sulli03

Toews was able to get ahold of himself, refocus and beat your beloved Wings remember? Reganing his focus showed just how great a player and leader he is. Toews is right on Yzerman's heels as you seem to forget Yzerman's hissy fits over Bowman's coaching.
BlazinMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 05.08.2013

Aug 21 @ 1:09 PM ET
Before last year I woulda said toews. But after seeing him crying like a baby in the playoffs when things didnt go his way, I would have to say Stammer. Toews also managed to destroy any comparisons he had to Yzerman with his temper tantrums.
- Sulli03


Doesnt Toews wear number 19 because he idolized Joe Sakic? I've heard the comparisons to Yzerman before but do they play the same style? I didnt get to see Yzerman play (too young), so all i see is the highlights and old shows on NHL network.
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Aug 21 @ 1:11 PM ET
Not here. I love an intelligent debate and these guys are providing it.
- Artyukhin76

An interesting comparison would be Hossa or St. Louis or Kane vs St.Louis I even think even though others might find it boring but I have always compared Elias and Hejduk
hunglikeapuck
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Punta Cana
Joined: 07.14.2009

Aug 21 @ 1:11 PM ET
Teows' kind player can be found a little easier than someone who scores the way Stamkos does. there are only 3, maybe 4 people who can score like Stamkos and there are maybe 5-6 players who can match Teows' play. very slight edge to Stamkos.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Aug 21 @ 1:12 PM ET
The guy scores 60 goals a year how much more do they want?
- mighty13duck

He has scored 60 goals in a year once. Call me when he does it again.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Aug 21 @ 1:15 PM ET
Teows' kind player can be found a little easier than someone who scores the way Stamkos does. there are only 3, maybe 4 people who can score like Stamkos and there are maybe 5-6 players who can match Teows' play. very slight edge to Stamkos.
- hunglikeapuck

Name them.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Aug 21 @ 1:17 PM ET
Name them.
- Ogilthorpe2

Toews, Toews, Toews, Toews, Toews and oh yeah Toews.
Artyukhin76
Tampa Bay Lightning
Joined: 07.25.2009

Aug 21 @ 1:19 PM ET
Well that's me out. As soon a trolls show up, I'm history. To the Blackhawks fans, it's been fun, you have a great team and have EVERY right to boast.
uf1910
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Excuseville, FL
Joined: 06.29.2011

Aug 21 @ 1:21 PM ET
Stamkos "all-around" game is very underrated and frankly overshadowed by his goal scoring. I'm not saying he is on the level of Toew's but he is a hard worker across all 200 feet of ice surface. Maybe I'm being homerish by taking Stammer but I don't see how you can pass on a scorer like him if building a team.

Also, not taking Toew's accomplishments away from him but he doesn't win 2 cups without the supporting cast he has around him. Stammer hasn't had 1/2 the team that Toew's has had most if not all of his career so taking into account Toew's "accomplishments" is the incorrect way of looking at this dilemma. Which is the better player is the question and to me the answer is Stamkos
Beaver-Warrior
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: in my great and unmatched wisdom
Joined: 07.28.2011

Aug 21 @ 1:23 PM ET
Olympic gold, best player in the Olympics, star of the Junior championships ...
- paulr


Forgot to mention folks like Mark Messier are talking about JT wearing the C in Sochi.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Aug 21 @ 1:24 PM ET
St St St St St Stamkos!
sambarugh
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Meszároš has sick trade value, NY
Joined: 01.14.2008

Aug 21 @ 1:25 PM ET
Stamkos because I like pure scorers and well, his hair is just so much more elegant that Toews'.
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Aug 21 @ 1:25 PM ET
Forgot to mention folks like Mark Messier are talking about JT wearing the C in Sochi.
- Beaver-Warrior

Tavares? In all seriousness Toews a great leader, but Stamkos is the better player imo.
BDizzlez
New Jersey Devils
Location: Truro, NS
Joined: 08.11.2009

Aug 21 @ 1:26 PM ET
the whole hasn't won a thing vs cup winner argument is bogus in my opinion. its a team sport. based on that argument rupp is better then stamkos as well
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Aug 21 @ 1:27 PM ET
the whole hasn't won a thing vs cup winner argument is bogus in my opinion. its a team sport. based on that argument rupp is better then stamkos as well
- BDizzlez

agreed
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