6M cap hit over 8 years, I think he would...

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- Big_Lightnin

You're short 4M lol....seriously though, remove the last 4M and that looks great.

EDIT: NVM, I'm a retard. Your numbers are correct. carry on.

8 years of Phaneuf...don't know if my heart could take that kind of pressure.
- AdamFrench

7 years 42M....split it out anyway you want. He'll be 35 at the end of it.

8 years of Phaneuf...don't know if my heart could take that kind of pressure.
- AdamFrench

ya I don't love it, but it's a lower cap hit than he has now, and they need him.

EDIT: I'm not against trading him and going with a young defence, but missing playoffs this year would be a huge setback IMO.

Personally I don't see point in extending him now. Give it the year, see how everybody else does at all levels (D prospects) and how the season goes.

If it looks like 3 other Dmen can make the jump next year, 2 in top 4, then I'm fine letting Phaneuf walk.

or trading at deadline if they are not in playoff position.

You're short 4M lol....seriously though, remove the last 4M and that looks great.

EDIT: NVM, I'm a retard. Your numbers are correct. carry on.
- mykokes

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- Big_Lightnin

(frank) it. changed my mind.

Trade Dion

Sign Hainsey to Scuderi type deal

Hainsey-Franson
Gardiner-Ranger
Fraser-Blacker
Liles

windy in here all of a sudden


This is preferable to a 7-8 yr extension

Bernier was 11th overall pick, Reimer was 99th, while some flop, generally higher picks pan out better than lower picks. Bernier has never been given the chance to play consistently so holding him to his NHL game experience will obviously handicap him to JR. Bernier also, in my opinion, has better reflexes and significantly better rebound control. What he lacks in height, he makes up in positioning. Most elite goalie prospect Toronto has had since they flushed Tukka down instead of Justin "Turd Ferguson" Pogge.

Those are all the Carleton and Ottawa U girls.
- AdamFrench

Things must've changed since I was at University... Carleton was brutal for ladies then!

They will be a disappointment once again.
- ThePresident

Fat chance!!!

Does the Reimer/Bernier tandem remind anyone else of Toskala/Raycroft?
- 1979AD

Thanks. I just threw up on the guy in the seat across from me on the train.

Bernier was 11th overall pick, Reimer was 99th, while some flop, generally higher picks pan out better than lower picks. Bernier has never been given the chance to play consistently so holding him to his NHL game experience will obviously handicap him to JR. Bernier also, in my opinion, has better reflexes and significantly better rebound control. What he lacks in height, he makes up in positioning. Most elite goalie prospect Toronto has had since they flushed Tukka down instead of Justin "Turd Ferguson" Pogge.
- PotvinFan

So Trevor Kidd > Martin Brodeur? Chet Pickard>Jacob Markstrom? Seriously, please don't ever use where a goalie was drafted to prove a point.

(frank) it. changed my mind.

Trade Dion

Sign Hainsey to Scuderi type deal

Hainsey-Franson
Gardiner-Ranger
Fraser-Blacker
Liles

windy in here all of a sudden


This is preferable to a 7-8 yr extension
- Big_Lightnin

Hainsey is crap.

Hainsey is crap.
- mykokes

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and at under $4M for 4 yrs, gives us a guy who can play anywhere in lineup for relatively short term while the younger guys get seasoned.

not saying he's a number 1, but neither is Franson...

Bernier was 11th overall pick, Reimer was 99th, while some flop, generally higher picks pan out better than lower picks. Bernier has never been given the chance to play consistently so holding him to his NHL game experience will obviously handicap him to JR. Bernier also, in my opinion, has better reflexes and significantly better rebound control. What he lacks in height, he makes up in positioning. Most elite goalie prospect Toronto has had since they flushed Tukka down instead of Justin "Turd Ferguson" Pogge.
- PotvinFan

And Lundquist was chosen like 200th in his draft year. What's your point?

....was the equation for any goaltending controversy that has ever existed.
- DoubleDown

Budaj over Price.... controversy. Budaj got the playoff starts.....


ooooooh... I can 'ere it now.... en Mon reallll..... die Karry Price was not so goooode in de playoff.... you know....

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- Big_Lightnin

Fine, i was being dramatic, he's a #4 d-man. The only time he was ever close to top pairing was on a non-playoff team. Actually, he hasn't seen the NHL playoffs his entire career, wow, he's the Matt Stajan of d-men!

(frank) it. changed my mind.

Trade Dion

Sign Hainsey to Scuderi type deal

Hainsey-Franson
Gardiner-Ranger
Fraser-Blacker
Liles

windy in here all of a sudden


This is preferable to a 7-8 yr extension
- Big_Lightnin

Ranger over Liles. Really? Career minor leaguer over a guy who had one bad season in TO?

Fine, i was being dramatic, he's a #4 d-man. The only time he was ever close to top pairing was on a non-playoff team.
- mykokes

I wrote some more.

Franson not top pairing either, but would "do" while we wait for Rielly-Percy-Blacker-Finn to develope

Ranger over Liles. Really? Career minor leaguer over a guy who had one bad season in TO?
- mlindsay

ya, probably, Ranger's not a career minor leaguer...

Liles hasn't played a single strong game since the concussion.

I wrote some more.

Franson not top pairing either, but would "do" while we wait for Rielly-Percy-Blacker-Finn to develope
- Big_Lightnin

Realistically what type of production would you expect to see out of Hainsey?

ya, probably, Ranger's not a career minor leaguer...

Liles hasn't played a single strong game since the concussion.
- Big_Lightnin

That's pretty drastic.

Realistically what type of production would you expect to see out of Hainsey?
- mykokes

stay at home to counter Franson as the offensive guy. Hainsey's changed his game, he's not offensive anymore, but still could be.

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and at under $4M for 4 yrs, gives us a guy who can play anywhere in lineup for relatively short term while the younger guys get seasoned.

not saying he's a number 1, but neither is Franson...
- Big_Lightnin

re: Scuderi - copy and paste below

Michael Shuckers - The Stats Doctor says Scuderi’s underlying statistics say he wasn’t worth the four-year, $13.5 million price tag.
Just sayin...what's one opinion?

I don't think the Pens are thinking about 4 years down the road either.

Ranger over Liles. Really? Career minor leaguer over a guy who had one bad season in TO?
- mlindsay

career minor leaguer??? do you know who you're talking about??

re: Scuderi - copy and paste below

Michael Shuckers - The Stats Doctor says Scuderi’s underlying statistics say he wasn’t worth the four-year, $13.5 million price tag.
Just sayin...what's one opinion?

I don't think the Pens are thinking about 4 years down the road either.
- Woderwick

the minutes he played on 1 of the best defensive teams in the league the last 2 years disagrees with Stats Doctor...