Sorry that's what I meant. Poor poor kids coming out of university.
- Yeti1181

not to mention university is a joke in itself

spend thousands of dollars to be qualified for a 20K a year starting position.

its gotten to the point that whenever a kid asks me what would be a smart direction to take i immediately say "get a trade"

Stop posting pics of your drunken parties, for Christ sake..
- bixll

Sexy drunk parties*

not to mention university is a joke in itself

spend thousands of dollars to be qualified for a 20K a year starting position.

its gotten to the point that whenever a kid asks me what would be a smart direction to take i immediately say "get a trade"
- Dozzer

Pretty much, especially up here way more money in a trade then a degree.

Sexy drunk parties*
- Yeti1181

Just email them directly to us, don't post them..

Just email them directly to us, don't post them..
- bixll

Will you dispose of them properly.

Will you dispose of them properly.
- Yeti1181

Of course I will. Promise.

Pretty much, especially up here way more money in a trade then a degree.
- Yeti1181

its pretty much like that anywhere

if i ever choose to flip careers i am going to go trade all the way

haha no...I dont think I could even write for the Habs...and Im french lol
- Colin Dambrauskas

Ek said he was looking a French blogger. Didn't think he was talking about Adam French.

Bernier is a better goalie than James Reimer, flat out. He's had incredible numbers his whole career and has fewer injury question marks. I like Reimer, and he'll find a home as below average starter somewhere in the league... but JB will become a solid starter when given the opportunity this year as a Maple Leaf.
- PotvinFan

This. Bernier has been working day in day out with a conn smythe all star goalie. Reimer doesn't have that added knowledge and Bernier is hungry for that spot. Reimer has yet to play a substantial amount of games since jr. Reimers injury history will open the door for Bernier.

- zazzle

Hump day, love this commercial.

not to mention university is a joke in itself

spend thousands of dollars to be qualified for a 20K a year starting position.

its gotten to the point that whenever a kid asks me what would be a smart direction to take i immediately say "get a trade"
- Dozzer

...depends what you wanna do though. Sure your degree isnt goign to get you into the doors anymore without added experience etc...so, guys like me who want to get into the government for analytical positions take on extra stuff like blogging, condo board president etc...though they seem unrelated, a hiring team will look at that as added experience and responsibilty on a resume with nothing but a fancy degree or two...

This. Bernier has been working day in day out with a conn smythe all star goalie. Reimer doesn't have that added knowledge and Bernier is hungry for that spot. Reimer has yet to play a substantial amount of games since jr. Reimers injury history will open the door for Bernier.
- Jay Uller

that and Bernier is a better goalie

not to mention university is a joke in itself

spend thousands of dollars to be qualified for a 20K a year starting position.

its gotten to the point that whenever a kid asks me what would be a smart direction to take i immediately say "get a trade"
- Dozzer

Myself, my bachelors, masters and soon to be PhD disagree!!!

Having said that, I feel like I'm in a trade anyway... we have to spend lots of time with our instruments, so just this morning I spent my time doing a spot of welding and refurbing some valves for our air-free gloveboxes... fun times!!!

that and Bernier is a better goalie
- Dozzer

This man gets it.

already happening

buddy here at work had a friend applying to be a cop

basically anyone who was a regular friend of his needed to clean up their facebook.. they actually hire staff to go through it now
- Dozzer

I know someone who knows someone that works at a bank and they'll do search on you over the net to see what come up.
there are companies out there that do the internet scrubbing of your name. clean it up for potential employers.

i think April Reimer is OK and all but the love she gets from some of the dudes in here... yikes. you fellas need hop on the 401 and spend a few days in Montreal.
- DoubleDown

Or just stand at the corner of Young and Bloor for 15 minutes. Makes them both seem no better than average...

...depends what you wanna do though. Sure your degree isnt goign to get you into the doors anymore without added experience etc...so, guys like me who want to get into the government for analytical positions take on extra stuff like blogging, condo board president etc...though they seem unrelated, a hiring team will look at that as added experience and responsibilty on a resume with nothing but a fancy degree or two...
- Colin Dambrauskas

oh sure there is oppurtunity

but the point I am making is if you were to go into something like brick laying.. you would make a killing.. they have to pay outrageous amounts to guys to stay out of retirement right now

Myself, my bachelors, masters and soon to be PhD disagree!!!

Having said that, I feel like I'm in a trade anyway... we have to spend lots of time with our instruments, so just this morning I spent my time doing a spot of welding and refurbing some valves for our air-free gloveboxes... fun times!!!
- lumlums

There is exception to every rule.

already happening

buddy here at work had a friend applying to be a cop

basically anyone who was a regular friend of his needed to clean up their facebook.. they actually hire staff to go through it now
- Dozzer

Do you think it will reach that point that if you don't have FB/TW accounts, potential employers would view you as suspect, ie. 'what does he have to hide'?

Pretty much, especially up here way more money in a trade then a degree.
- Yeti1181

Absolutely. The same time I started Uni, a friend of mine did 1 year at Fanshawe, then started his HVAC apprenticeship. He was making north of 100k by the time I graduated.

edit: this was at the very end of the OAC days, meaning I had to stay in high-school an extra year just so I could get accepted to Universities. The buddy's 1 year at Fanshawe was done by then, and he started his apprenticeship the same time as my 1st year of Uni.

that and Bernier is a better goalie
- Dozzer

Hearsay.

oh sure there is oppurtunity

but the point I am making is if you were to go into something like brick laying.. you would make a killing.. they have to pay outrageous amounts to guys to stay out of retirement right now
- Dozzer

While true, the mere fact that I have an education while trying to get into my career has lead me to other opportunities...had I gone into trade and there were no positions open at the time, what would my "masonry" diploma (or what ever you may get) do for me?

Ive had 3 promotions at my current job because of my education...and its all padding my resume further to get the job I want, which in/of itself pays very well

All subjective my friend...the point I think youre making is towards the kids who go in for a simple BA and expect a job out of the gates at 22/23...yeah, not going to happen.

Do you think it will reach that point that if you don't have FB/TW accounts, potential employers would view you as suspect, ie. 'what does he have to hide'?
- 1979AD

I deleted all my pictures awhile ago because of this and made my account "private" but apparently the gov. jobs have ways around this anyways...so...when I reapply I think im deleting my account all together

Do you think it will reach that point that if you don't have FB/TW accounts, potential employers would view you as suspect, ie. 'what does he have to hide'?
- 1979AD

yeah prolly already has

but if the applicant is forthright about it i think it could be handled

"btw, if you are searching for my FB account you wont find it, I keep my personal and professional lives separate, and if you are the type of company that feels that it deserves to be aware of my private life then I don't want to work for you anyways"

some employers will respect it, some wont.. c'est la vie