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BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Aug 20 @ 2:46 PM ET
Can I just say this has been the WORST off season ever for me?
Sun one of my other dogs died. He'd been sick for months and he went into a full system collapse Sun night. And my uncle died last week. I almost flew back to Texas for the service but last minute didn't. Which is good or the fiancee would have had to deal with our dieing dog without me there and my guilt would have been so much worse.
So in the last 3 weeks I've lost 2 of my dogs, and my uncle. The angel of death can keep on walking please... (like on to Leighton's NHL career) I don't think I can take much more.

Hopefully I'll be back for some witty banter soon. I'm in shock if you want the truth...

- FlyersGrace

Sorry to hear things have been so rough
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 20 @ 3:01 PM ET
Still can't believe he was slated to be our #1 goaltender until Bob stole the show.

Michael Leighton

#1 goalie

- feelingkettle



After watching what happened last season and this off season I'm finally forced into concluding that the Flyers front office and management have absolutely zero clue on how to evaluate and obtain the right goalie for their team.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 20 @ 3:04 PM ET


After watching what happened last season and this off season I'm finally forced into concluding that the Flyers front office and management have absolutely zero clue on how to evaluate and obtain the right goalie for their team.

- Scoob

Ill be honest.. this is the best they could have done for the upcoming season with out really blowing the team up... I give them a B+
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Aug 20 @ 3:07 PM ET


After watching what happened last season and this off season I'm finally forced into concluding that the Flyers front office and management have absolutely zero clue on how to evaluate and obtain the right goalie for their team.

- Scoob


They've certainly hired enough people (Neil Little, Nitty, Jeff Reese) to assist with finding and cultivating goaltenders. It certainly isn't lack of effort.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Aug 20 @ 3:13 PM ET
do you really want mr. softie ruining your SCF?
- 2Real

didn't think i needed to post the gif
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Aug 20 @ 3:38 PM ET
After watching what happened last season and this off season I'm finally forced into concluding that the Flyers front office and management have absolutely zero clue on how to evaluate and obtain the right goalie for their team.
- Scoob


Who did you want them to sign this offseason?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 20 @ 3:41 PM ET
Who did you want them to sign this offseason?
- Feanor


Shoulda traded Shelley's rights for Lundqvist.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Aug 20 @ 3:42 PM ET
didn't think i needed to post the gif
- isaiah520

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 20 @ 3:48 PM ET
Souray injured

Meszaros for Etem

GID Homer
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 20 @ 3:55 PM ET
Shoulda traded Shelley's rights for Lundqvist.
- jmatchett383

A REAL GM WOULD HAVE GOTTEN IT DONE
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 20 @ 3:55 PM ET
Ill be honest.. this is the best they could have done for the upcoming season with out really blowing the team up... I give them a B+
- jak521


Vancouver gave Schneider away for nothing. I wonder if Philly even tried. Bernier from LA didn't exactly take multiple Brinks trucks, either.

Anyway, for me end of last season and this off season was simply the last straw and led to my epiphany that they have no clue about goaltending vis-a-vis their team makeup. Go back and look at Bill's blog where he listed the Flyers goalies of the 2000s. It's not even that all of the goalies were bad in their own right, but more that most of them were not a good fit for the formulation of the teams they were playing on.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 20 @ 3:56 PM ET
Who did you want them to sign this offseason?
- Feanor


I'd have much preferred a tandem of Emery and Schneider/Bernier than Mason. But as I said, this was just the last straw leading me to my conclusion. The last decade + haven't been all that great.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 20 @ 4:05 PM ET
Vancouver gave Schneider away for nothing. I wonder if Philly even tried. Bernier from LA didn't exactly take multiple Brinks trucks, either.

Anyway, for me end of last season and this off season was simply the last straw and led to my epiphany that they have no clue about goaltending vis-a-vis their team makeup. Go back and look at Bill's blog where he listed the Flyers goalies of the 2000s. It's not even that all of the goalies were bad in their own right, but more that most of them were not a good fit for the formulation of the teams they were playing on.

- Scoob


The #9 overall pick is "nothing?"
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 20 @ 4:10 PM ET
The #9 overall pick is "nothing?"
- jmatchett383

The 9th overall pick while hosting the draft to boot...
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 20 @ 4:20 PM ET
The #9 overall pick is "nothing?"
- jmatchett383


Imho, yes, it was a low price to pay. Going by the "bird in the hand" theory, a known quantity - Schneider - is worth much more than a draftee.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 20 @ 4:21 PM ET
The 9th overall pick while hosting the draft to boot...
- jak521


Yep. And that's for a goalie who was given the starting job and lost it to a guy everyone wanted gone. As for Bernier, he's got less than 60 games of NHL experience, so I'm not sure he's gonna live up to the hype.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 20 @ 4:22 PM ET
Imho, yes, it was a low price to pay.
- Scoob


So you'd rather trade a #9 overall pick for a guy who already lost his first chance at a starting job? I'll keep the pick.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 20 @ 4:22 PM ET
Yep. And that's for a goalie who was given the starting job and lost it to a guy everyone wanted gone. As for Bernier, he's got less than 60 games of NHL experience, so I'm not sure he's gonna live up to the hype.
- jmatchett383


But Steve Mason rules.



Sorry, I like a lot of what the Flyers management does, but when it comes to goaltending they are in the dark.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 20 @ 4:23 PM ET
So you'd rather trade a #9 overall pick for a guy who already lost his first chance at a starting job? I'll keep the pick.
- jmatchett383


I'd have made that trade in a heartbeat.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 20 @ 4:24 PM ET
But Steve Mason rules.



Sorry, I like a lot of what the Flyers management does, but when it comes to goaltending they are in the dark.

- Scoob


I'm banking on Mason being a backup, which I think is fine. I'm just not sold on 2 young goalies who so far have proven they can be really good with limited minutes.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 20 @ 4:25 PM ET
I'd have made that trade in a heartbeat.
- Scoob


And when Horvat goes on to be a 30/65 player and Schneider, again, can't hold down a starting job, people would be saying the Flyers don't know how to deal with goalies. If Mason struggles, it cost us Leighton and a 3rd, so I can live with that.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Aug 20 @ 4:31 PM ET
Imho, yes, it was a low price to pay. Going by the "bird in the hand" theory, a known quantity - Schneider - is worth much more than a draftee.
- Scoob


If Schneider were already carrying the load in Vancouver, I'd agree with you. It's a risk for both sides made riskier (in hindsight) by Kovalchuk's departure.

That said, Schneider will probably be Marty 2.0 and limit the Flyers to a -1.25 goals against average.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Aug 20 @ 4:32 PM ET
I'd have made that trade in a heartbeat.
- Scoob


Not for Schneider, I wouldn't.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Aug 20 @ 4:33 PM ET
So what is going on with Manning and Wellwood's new contracts? would have expected Wellwood to accept the qualifying offer and didn't think signing Manning would be an issue
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 20 @ 4:35 PM ET
So what is going on with Manning and Wellwood's new contracts? would have expected Wellwood to accept the qualifying offer and didn't think signing Manning would be an issue
- nastyflyergirl


Not sure but, honestly, I wouldn't be upset (at least not a lot) if they didn't accept. Basically using up a contract slot and cap space on a player who is not going to play this year. Manning, hopefully, can have a big bounce-back season.
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