Listening to that kadri interview.. sounds like he doesnt want a bridge contract. Let him sit then
- IrishRage

Yea...good plan.

Fellas, this Bozak thing is getting so (frank)in old, I want to shoot something..
- bixll

Shoot yourself in the Bozak

Shoot yourself in the Bozak
- .HOHO.

I hope bixll picks me. Nice clean headshot.

This whole Bozak schtik in the thread is getting old...


<--- old like this guy!
- systemtool

Yes, but it has fulfilled it's desired affect. HH has been rendered powerless.

Yes, but it has fulfilled it's desired affect. HH has been rendered powerless.
- Woderwick

Is that what it was all about?

Yea, that guy is a goof. Good to see him get "UG'd"

Man of the century.
- systemtool

he deserve a Dos Equis

did you ever see lidstrom do something amazing and be like wow...this guy is the best to ever play the game.

honestly, not once.

edit: ive seen kadri do better things
- big_dion

BigD.. I love ya.. but I think you are sharing some of your wife's pregnancy stupids lol

what made Lidstrom so good was that he wasnt flashy.. he just stopped offenses in their tracks..... routinely.

Is that what it was all about?

Yea, that guy is a goof. Good to see him get "UG'd"
- systemtool

UG'd



i think that hurtbag's account is unbanned in december - i heard that the other week.

no idea if its true or not

Yea...good plan.
- systemtool

You would rather leafs give in and pay him 5-6m+??

BigD.. I love ya.. but I think you are sharing some of your wife's pregnancy stupids lol

what made Lidstrom so good was that he wasnt flashy.. he just stopped offenses in their tracks..... routinely.
- Dozzer

LOL

lidstrom is a top 3 D men, im not denying that.

i just didnt ever watch him and think, wow, im lucky, watching the best D man of all time..

when i see crosby, stamkos, or when i was younger watching gretzky and mario...i think to myself...these guys are incredible, the best. never once did i get that watching Lidstrom, he did his job, but never once overly impressed me.

You would rather leafs give in and pay him 5-6m+??
- IrishRage

if leafs can sign kadri for 4.5 mil for 7 years...its a risk that may be worth taking...
look at JVR..similar.

BigD.. I love ya.. but I think you are sharing some of your wife's pregnancy stupids lol

what made Lidstrom so good was that he wasnt flashy.. he just stopped offenses in their tracks..... routinely.
- Dozzer

the boys a blue and his hand in on glue ...... (to bowie ziggy stardust song)


so ya, he can have the error code id 10t

BigD.. I love ya.. but I think you are sharing some of your wife's pregnancy stupids lol

what made Lidstrom so good was that he wasnt flashy.. he just stopped offenses in their tracks..... routinely.
- Dozzer

scott stevens to me was a d man who i wouldnt want to play against. id rather play vs 2 lidstroms than 1 stevens, and i mean that!

if leafs can sign kadri for 4.5 mil for 7 years...its a risk that may be worth taking...
look at JVR..similar.
- big_dion

That deal is fine. He apparently wants a 5-6M + on a long term deal.
I know it isnt my money but that coule F us right over on other contracts

That deal is fine. He apparently wants a 5-6M + on a long term deal.
I know it isnt my money but that coule F us right over on other contracts
- IrishRage

well, nonis has his work cut out for him.

maybe he shouldnt have bought out grabo, resigned bozak and kept liles

we could have kadri locked up and franson, plus a couple mil

That deal is fine. He apparently wants a 5-6M + on a long term deal.
I know it isnt my money but that coule F us right over on other contracts
- IrishRage

Umm, like Franson?

Umm, like Franson?
- PatC80

That PLUS negotiations for Kessel.. We give Kadri 5.5M+ for 7 Years.. That price tag for Kessel will pop up to 9+

LOL

lidstrom is a top 3 D men, im not denying that.

i just didnt ever watch him and think, wow, im lucky, watching the best D man of all time..

when i see crosby, stamkos, or when i was younger watching gretzky and mario...i think to myself...these guys are incredible, the best. never once did i get that watching Lidstrom, he did his job, but never once overly impressed me.
- big_dion

depends on what you are watching for

orr was far better offensively.. and because nobody had ever seen a d-man take the puck himself on the rush before (seriously, orr pioneered that) defenses weren't prepared for it at all.

so of course Orr had massive point totals.. nobody had a defense in place that stopped a d-man on the rush.. if orr would of played when lidstrom did his numbers would of been about the same as scott niedermeyer.. still HoF worthy.. but not insanely inflated

scott stevens to me was a d man who i wouldnt want to play against. id rather play vs 2 lidstroms than 1 stevens, and i mean that!
- big_dion

If there were two Lidstrom's on the ice no opponent would ever get the puck.

scott stevens to me was a d man who i wouldnt want to play against. id rather play vs 2 lidstroms than 1 stevens, and i mean that!
- big_dion

stevens was far more punishing.. but didnt have the same skill level

on a physical level: stevens 110%

for skill: lidstrom

wanna know what i wouldnt want to play against.. lidstrom and stevens as a pairing

one cracks your rib cage open while the other makes your skills look like bantam level lol

depends on what you are watching for

orr was far better offensively.. and because nobody had ever seen a d-man take the puck himself on the rush before (seriously, orr pioneered that) defenses weren't prepared for it at all.

so of course Orr had massive point totals.. nobody had a defense in place that stopped a d-man on the rush.. if orr would of played when lidstrom did his numbers would of been about the same as scott niedermeyer.. still HoF worthy.. but not insanely inflated
- Dozzer

times were so dif. from hockey generations...
i just dislike detroit,always will,but still lidstrom to me was a good d man, but not the best of all time...and i still think a lot of his success was due to playing on a great team.

stevens was far more punishing.. but didnt have the same skill level

on a physical level: stevens 110%

for skill: lidstrom

wanna know what i wouldnt want to play against.. lidstrom and stevens as a pairing

one cracks your rib cage open while the other makes your skills look like bantam level lol
- Dozzer

no doubt! and yeah that would be horrible to play vs !!

If there were two Lidstrom's on the ice no opponent would ever get the puck.
- AdamFrench

some truth in that!!

If there were two Lidstrom's on the ice no opponent would ever get the puck.
- AdamFrench

I remember an All Star Game a few years back. The score was like 14-12 but Lidstrom was a +7.

times were so dif. from hockey generations...
i just dislike detroit,always will,but still lidstrom to me was a good d man, but not the best of all time...and i still think a lot of his success was due to playing on a great team.
- big_dion

well the argument i pose to that is that he was the only mainstay through all those teams so I could argue that it was him making everyone else better.

Orr was good.. but he was all offense.. he wouldnt be able to do what he did back then today at all. whereas lidstrom's competition was far more difficult in all aspects.

also, lidstrom was the first euro captain to win a cup no?

i consider Orr to be the best offensive d-man of all time, but for the best all around d-man.. i'm going with lidstrom all the way