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BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Aug 16 @ 2:46 PM ET
WTF

http://www.crossingbroad....s-1000th-win-tonight.html

Amaro you (frank) wad

- feelingkettle

Damn it, I can't believe I clicked a Crossing Broad link
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 16 @ 2:46 PM ET
Thoughts on Sandberg?
- AGalchenyuk27

He could be the best manager of all time, but wont do poop with this team and GM.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Aug 16 @ 2:47 PM ET
Thoughts on Sandberg?
- AGalchenyuk27

Can he manage and GM at the same time?
AGalchenyuk27
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

Aug 16 @ 2:48 PM ET
Can he manage and GM at the same time?
- BulliesPhan87

feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Aug 16 @ 2:49 PM ET
Damn it, I can't believe I clicked a Crossing Broad link
- BulliesPhan87

Sorry bro, next time I'll check with you before I post a link.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 16 @ 2:50 PM ET
He took $1mm in Real estate and turned it into $25 cash in 5 years. He took over a championship team and did nothing to sustain it.

The Howard extension was way too much money and way too soon, Trading away Lee, Papelbon...now he's re-signed Utley despite his horrible knees and he sat on his hands at the TDL instead of getting assets in when the team was clearly going nowhere.

He's been abysmal

- Jsaquella


THIS!

Thank you Charlie! You took em to the top and Philly will always love you for that. Its too damn bad that you have to be the fall guy for Amaro's ineptitude.

And the heck with you Rube!! Would it have been too much to ask to let Charlie finish the season and then retire with class. Shame on you!
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Aug 16 @ 2:51 PM ET
Sorry bro, next time I'll check with you before I post a link.
- feelingkettle

tyvm
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 16 @ 2:52 PM ET
THIS!

Thank you Charlie! You took em to the top and Philly will always love you for that. Its too damn bad that you have to be the fall guy for Amaro's ineptitude.

And the heck with you Rube!! Would it have been too much to ask to let Charlie finish the season and then retire with class. Shame on you!

- BiggE


Agreed. Total insult to Manuel.
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Aug 16 @ 2:53 PM ET
The Flyers seem rather predictable in the types of players they like playing for them. Chris Pronger, Jason Smith, Ray Emery and Wayne Simmonds are all examples of players I always wanted and knew someday this team would eventually acquire. Vincent Lecavalier is one of those players who fits the Flyers mold but it never crossed my mind in my wildest dreams he would land here. On the other hand, Keith Tkachuk, Rob Blake, Jerome Iginla, Shane Doan, Joe Thornton and Shea Weber are others I would have bet money we would have forsure picked up too but never did. Who are the players you knew we would pick up and did, while also betting on other players you thought we would have picked up but never did?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 16 @ 2:54 PM ET
Agreed. Total insult to Manuel.
- jmatchett383

and the day they were set to "Honor Charlie Manuel for his 1,000 MLB wins" they instead fire him. Disgusting.
Briere
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2011

Aug 16 @ 3:03 PM ET
and the day they were set to "Honor Charlie Manuel for his 1,000 MLB wins" they instead fire him. Disgusting.
- jak521


It's possible that Charlie pushed the issue with RAJ. Said something like if you "aren't bringing me back, and won't give me a vote of confidence just fire me now"

Playing devils advocate.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Aug 16 @ 3:05 PM ET
It's possible that Charlie pushed the issue with RAJ. Said something like if you "aren't bringing me back, and won't give me a vote of confidence just fire me now"

Playing devils advocate.

- Briere

It's also possible Amaro knows what he doing. Possible, but highly unlikely.
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Aug 16 @ 3:05 PM ET
The Flyers seem rather predictable in the types of players they like playing for them. Chris Pronger, Jason Smith, Ray Emery and Wayne Simmonds are all examples of players I always wanted and knew someday this team would eventually acquire. Vincent Lecavalier is one of those players who fits the Flyers mold but it never crossed my mind in my wildest dreams he would land here. On the other hand, Keith Tkachuk, Rob Blake, Jerome Iginla, Shane Doan, Joe Thornton and Shea Weber are others I would have bet money we would have forsure picked up too but never did. Who are the players you knew we would pick up and did, while also betting on other players you thought we would have picked up but never did?
- dingo8urbaby


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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 16 @ 3:06 PM ET
It's possible that Charlie pushed the issue with RAJ. Said something like if you "aren't bringing me back, and won't give me a vote of confidence just fire me now"

Playing devils advocate.

- Briere


Perhaps, but I think all Amaro had to say would have been: We will assess every aspect of the team at the end of the season. Charlie is our manager, end of story.

I think Charlie would have understood and would have accepted that, he's not stupid. He knows the team is doing poorly and he knows how old he is. Amaro is a scumbag IMHO.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 16 @ 3:06 PM ET
I will watch the Golf channel this evening. Maybe Frank Nobilo and David Feherity will have some updated information.
- PLindbergh31



I watched it earlier today. Tiger Woods suffered a shoulder injury in a pickup Hockey game. He's out for the remainder of the PGA Tour Season.
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Aug 16 @ 3:06 PM ET
and the day they were set to "Honor Charlie Manuel for his 1,000 MLB wins" they instead fire him. Disgusting.
- jak521



or another spin is that maybe they wanted him to get to 1,000 earlier in the year and can him sooner but they suck so bad this year...it took them this long to get the win
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Aug 16 @ 3:08 PM ET
Perhaps, but I think all Amaro had to say would have been: We will assess every aspect of the team at the end of the season. Charlie is our manager, end of story.

I think Charlie would have understood and would have accepted that, he's not stupid. He knows the team is doing poorly and he knows how old he is. Amaro is a scumbag IMHO.

- BiggE



Sadly...i think the team has tuned him out by the way they have played most of the year. The coach takes the fall...nature of sports.

they needed a reason to Ryno from going to another team to coach...Charlie knew it...
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 16 @ 3:11 PM ET
It's possible that Charlie pushed the issue with RAJ. Said something like if you "aren't bringing me back, and won't give me a vote of confidence just fire me now"

Playing devils advocate.

- Briere

Watched the press conference and can confidently say that was not even close to being the case. Charlie was asked (the last question) "How he planned to spend his time considering he lived baseball 24 hours a day". He responded that he was going to sneak in to the park when nobody was around and leave before they got there.

It was a tough presser to watch. He didnt quit.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 16 @ 3:12 PM ET
Sadly...i think the team has tuned him out by the way they have played most of the year. The coach takes the fall...nature of sports.

they needed a reason to Ryno from going to another team to coach...Charlie knew it...

- phi1671

The real problem is the terrible talent evaluation in the front office. RAJ changed the philosophy of the team the minute he took over.. and has led them down a black hole since. You could have any manager in the league with this team and it wouldnt matter.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 16 @ 3:12 PM ET
Sadly...i think the team has tuned him out by the way they have played most of the year. The coach takes the fall...nature of sports.

they needed a reason to Ryno from going to another team to coach...Charlie knew it...

- phi1671


Not buying that. Sandberg could have been quietly told that the job was his at the end of the season. He's always been a class act and I have to think he would have had no problem with letting Manuel finish out the year.
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Aug 16 @ 3:15 PM ET
The real problem is the terrible talent evaluation in the front office. RAJ changed the philosophy of the team the minute he took over.. and has led them down a black hole since. You could have any manager in the league with this team and it wouldnt matter.
- jak521



there are lots of real problems...that's a big one...the other one is aging core...add in a shi!!y bench and bullpen...
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Aug 16 @ 3:16 PM ET

Not buying that. Sandberg could have been quietly told that the job was his at the end of the season. He's always been a class act and I have to think he would have had no problem with letting Manuel finish out the year.

- BiggE



true...but with the team in a true funk and the trade deadline pass.. the idiot GM wanted to take the heat of himself...so they got rid of the guy they could get rid of...
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 16 @ 3:20 PM ET
there are lots of real problems...that's a big one...the other one is aging core...add in a shi!!y bench and bullpen...
- phi1671

Exactly. That is on the GM and FO
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Aug 16 @ 3:23 PM ET
The Flyers seem rather predictable in the types of players they like playing for them. Chris Pronger, Jason Smith, Ray Emery and Wayne Simmonds are all examples of players I always wanted and knew someday this team would eventually acquire. Vincent Lecavalier is one of those players who fits the Flyers mold but it never crossed my mind in my wildest dreams he would land here. On the other hand, Keith Tkachuk, Rob Blake, Jerome Iginla, Shane Doan, Joe Thornton and Shea Weber are others I would have bet money we would have forsure picked up too but never did. Who are the players you knew we would pick up and did, while also betting on other players you thought we would have picked up but never did?
- dingo8urbaby


doan is a guy i always liked, thought they'd get, and haven't. this is going back a bit, but bret hedican is another guy on the that same list. i'm sure there are others...




77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Aug 16 @ 3:39 PM ET
Ruben Amaro Jr has a fantastic talent for doing less with more. Terrible GM, just terrible.
- BulliesPhan87


What?

You didn't like the Delmon Young pickup as their right field starter?
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