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PhillySteen
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Scania
Joined: 08.02.2011

Aug 15 @ 10:02 PM ET
Erik Johnson ‏@6ErikJohnson 33m
Hey @28CGiroux, don't worry it happens bro. #buddies

ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Aug 15 @ 10:11 PM ET
we'll see
- -davies-


What else can we do
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Aug 15 @ 10:12 PM ET
Agreed -- but just like Eric Lindros in Nashville bathtub with a ruptured spleen, I can honestly say this injury is the first I've heard of its kind.

Just have to shake my head, sometimes.

- AllInForFlyers


It's not a common thing to have happened with the golf club, I've been pretty much playing for the last 20 years and never saw anybody on any course shatter a club.
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Aug 15 @ 10:23 PM ET
Pathetic, the injury updates are starting on August 15.
Camp hasn't even started yet and it's mid-season form with this (frank)ing horsepoop.

- PLindbergh31

Why is this pathetic?
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Aug 15 @ 10:38 PM ET
lovely to come home to this


i guess lecav is our first line center to start the year



will this never end?

- -davies-


Never.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Aug 15 @ 10:47 PM ET
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Aug 15 @ 10:48 PM ET
Erik Johnson ‏@6ErikJohnson 33m
Hey @28CGiroux, don't worry it happens bro. #buddies


- PhillySteen


That is funny.. This news is not what I was expecting in the middle of August, but if he can come back 100% before the Reg season.,..then this could have been worse. What a freak injury though.. this team and injuries.. dear God.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Aug 15 @ 10:51 PM ET
Repeal Murphy's Law Now!
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Aug 15 @ 11:10 PM ET
What else can we do
- ob18



hope that just for once one to seven of our main players aren't injured at all times?
whipper334
Calgary Flames
Location: The man they call Reveen!!
Joined: 01.06.2010

Aug 15 @ 11:58 PM ET
That is funny.. This news is not what I was expecting in the middle of August, but if he can come back 100% before the Reg season.,..then this could have been worse. What a freak injury though.. this team and injuries.. dear God.
- Hextall271

You actually believe it was because a club snapped? That's their party line...
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 16 @ 12:00 AM ET
Didn't even look. Don't need to. I know and understand how the Cap works. And my track record on knowing and understanding the Cap, stands on it's own merits.

Everything a team spends money on isn't part of the CBA. And part of HRR, or player expenditures for the NHL roster. Which is what the Cap is all about.
How Cap (notice the word Cap that should be included) accounting is done is part of the NHL Salary Cap system. And it isn't two different things. You may have never heard of it, but you're mistaken.

Like I said, feel free to Email Matthew Weust or any other NHL CBA authority and ask them if players salaries paid to players, playing in the minors counts towards the players share. But I'll save you some time, it doesn't.

This is really the ABC's of the NHL Salary Cap. It doesn't get more basic then this.

- MJL



ABCs? Really? Before you laid the condescension on so thickly, maybe you should have taken a gander at this first:


50.2(c) For each League Year, "Actual Club Salary" for each Club shall be calculated as the sum of the following amounts:

(i) The aggregate Player Salaries and Bonuses paid or earned for that League
Year for all Players on the Club's Active Roster, Injured Reserve, Injured
Non-Roster and Non-Roster; etc.

...

50.4 (a) "League-wide Player Compensation."
"League-wide Player Compensation" for each League Year means the aggregate Actual Club Salaries for all Clubs, as set forth in
Section 50.2(c), plus... etc.

50.4(b) "Players' Share"
For each League Year, there shall be a Players' Share, which shall be equal to the percentage of HRR that the Players shall be entitled to earn in the aggregate as League-wide Player Compensation... etc



Translation: ALL money paid out by the club, including money to AHL players and bonuses to prospects, are accounted for in the player's share.

Period.

So much for that sterling track record of yours.

(btw, damn you for making me look that up)
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Aug 16 @ 12:15 AM ET
this is my other fall favorite, the weather here has been so nice i had one the other day


- -davies-



Ill be sure to try it and ill pm what I think

Its always a great day when you learn about a new beer to try
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 16 @ 1:48 AM ET
He'll miss just over a week of camp, I'll take that over missing regular season games.
- ob18

no no plindbergh said the season is over lets just throw in the towel
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 16 @ 1:48 AM ET
He'll miss just over a week of camp, I'll take that over missing regular season games.
- ob18

no no plindbergh said the season is over lets just throw in the towel
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Aug 16 @ 3:52 AM ET
is it any good? haven't tried... i get wary of american tripels
- -davies-

It's ok a little hot maybe, clove spices, not terrible but
Probably not for you
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Aug 16 @ 4:15 AM ET
So G had to have a hand surgeon fix the extensor tendon in his index finger.
This is not great.
These things can get infected.
Lots of stiffness afterwards because after surgery his fingers will have to be casted in extension until healed.
Jeebus.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 16 @ 8:32 AM ET
So G had to have a hand surgeon fix the extensor tendon in his index finger.
This is not great.
These things can get infected.
Lots of stiffness afterwards because after surgery his fingers will have to be casted in extension until healed.
Jeebus.

- Marc D

The fact that it was sliced could be a good thing. Typically tendon injuries in the fingers are a result of dislocations and/or avulsion fractures (when a piece of bone where the tendon attaches pulls off). Like you already stated.. He will remain in full extension probably with a small hand cast for about 3-4 weeks, and then SLOWLY work the tendon back into form though OT.

In a sport like football, this isnt even a problem unless you are actively carrying or throwing the ball... In hockey, where you need to be in constant flexion (holding a stick) its paramount to have healthy tendons.

I honestly dont know if this is something to be worried about though, because a lot depends on the type of cut/ direction of cut/affected tendon/how much of the tendon was compromised/ etc.

Bad bad break for G and the Flyers...
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 16 @ 8:40 AM ET
no no plindbergh said the season is over lets just throw in the towel
- 2Real


Don't forget pathetic!
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Aug 16 @ 8:43 AM ET
Couldn't make this poop up even if you tried!hopefully Giroux is 100% before the start of the season and that it doesn't get infected
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 16 @ 8:46 AM ET
Couldn't make this poop up even if you tried!hopefully Giroux is 100% before the start of the season and that it doesn't get infected
- PhillaBully

I really wouldnt worry about infection...
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 16 @ 8:47 AM ET
Definitely did not need to wake up to this.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 16 @ 8:50 AM ET
Fully expecting Voracek to impale himself on a croquet wicket, Hartnell to get a concussion by whacking himself with a racket playing badminton, and Timonen to get a case of leprosy somehow.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 16 @ 8:50 AM ET
ABCs? Really? Before you laid the condescension on so thickly, maybe you should have taken a gander at this first:





Translation: ALL money paid out by the club, including money to AHL players and bonuses to prospects, are accounted for in the player's share.

Period.

So much for that sterling track record of yours.

(btw, damn you for making me look that up)

- Tomahawk



I'll refer you to Article 16 Section 12 of the CBA. There you will find the definition of the term "Non-Roster player".

Welcome to the CBA Tomahawk. Your translation is incorrect.

It's nothing I haven't read before.

But here is today's CBA tip. Anytime you're reading the CBA, and a term is used. Refer to Article 1 for the definition of that term. If the exact term is not there, it will refer you to the section that gives the exact definition.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Aug 16 @ 8:52 AM ET
Fully expecting Voracek to impale himself on a croquet wicket, Hartnell to get a concussion by whacking himself with a racket playing badminton, and Timonen to get a case of leprosy somehow.
- jmatchett383


johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Aug 16 @ 8:54 AM ET
Fully expecting Voracek to impale himself on a croquet wicket, Hartnell to get a concussion by whacking himself with a racket playing badminton, and Timonen to get a case of leprosy somehow.
- jmatchett383


I can't believe I'm reading this news about Giroux today.

The (frank)ing NHL gods (frank)ing OWE this franchise as it is.
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