i'm wrong all the time. no big deal.
- hammarby31

But you're a champion, so it doesn't matter!

I like how everyone is assuming that Gagne is 100% to sign here.
- jmatchett383

The fact he hasn't signed elsewhere yet indicates Gagne and the Flyers have a handshake deal one would imagine.

i don't assume that. i'd like him to return, but my gut says he ends up being a 1-2 year rental player to a variety of teams for the next 5 years. i sure hope not.
- hammarby31

Its sad to see how the cap implications have pushed some of the savvy older vets, and "good team guys" out of the league earlier than before.

Im done, one thing I have learned on this site is that not one single person is wrong. Nobody will admit it even if they were. Too much pride and opinions are like bumholes, everyone has one.
- GOA88

It takes two to tango, bro.

It takes two to tango, bro.
- BulliesPhan87

oh so now you're a dancer

The fact he hasn't signed elsewhere yet indicates Gagne and the Flyers have a handshake deal one would imagine.
- PLindbergh31

So then, who's Brendan Morrow have a handshake deal with?

Im done, one thing I have learned on this site is that not one single person is wrong. Nobody will admit it even if they were. Too much pride and opinions are like bumholes, everyone has one.
- GOA88

look in the mirror

The fact he hasn't signed elsewhere yet indicates Gagne and the Flyers have a handshake deal one would imagine.
- PLindbergh31

in that link bill put up to someone's town hall blog holmgren was quoted saying he is in touch with gagne's agent weekly

I would love to know what you went by prior to GOA88...
- jak521

i have a guess

oh so now you're a dancer
- phi1671

In bizarro world, maybe. Or at weddings, provided there's an open bar.

So then, who's Brendan Morrow have a handshake deal with?
- jmatchett383

There are a lot of those guys like Gags and Morrow who are not signed right now.. Its crazy, but welcome to NHL 2014

http://www.thehockeynews....-by-the-players-3531.html
- GOA88

yeah...and?


Dude, give it up, you are all over the place and I don't even think you understand what it is you are trying to prove.

Bottom line:

Giroux is a dynamic offensive player who plays hard. No one denies this.

He is an excellent penalty killer because of his anticipation, competitiveness and mobility.

He is average to below average defensively on 5 on 5 because he tends to drift around his zone, tends to lose his man coming in to the slot, makes low % passes trying to exit the zone too often, and has a tendency to leave the zone before the team has possession of the puck. Most of this will be improved as he learns to consistently apply himself in all three zones.

NONE OF THIS is debatable.

However, he is not, and never will be, a top ten defensive player.

He can be a top ten or even top five 2 way player in this league. However, I don't think he is there yet. He needs to be more consistent defensively before that happens.

He makes these lists you love to point out because he is so dynamic offensively, is good in the dot, is good on the PP, and PK. If he improves defensively he will right there in the convo for best player in the league.

Stop making claims and then linking to stuff that doesn't even touch on the same subject, then say say you mistyped or that not what I meant....we will just end up wasting an entire day.

Any predictions on line combos this year?

Hartnell-Giroux-Voracek
Schenn-Lecavalier-Simmons
Gagne-Couturier-Read
Rinaldo-Hall-Talbot
- flyerdude17

this is what i want

i have a guess
- -davies-

I know what you're thinking. None of us are fooled, skip.

I like how everyone is assuming that Gagne is 100% to sign here.
- jmatchett383

50/50 chance, I think he would like to stay but can the Flyers fit him in capwise?

1st pp unit

Hartnell-Giroux-Lecavalier
Streit-Voracek

??

After trading Carter for Voracek and Couturier, we also lost Ville Leino to free agency. I wasn't overly impressed by Jake Voracek in his first go with the Flyers and he reminded me a lot of Ville Leino and Leino is a player I liked a lot. Now I see that voracek is much more then a valuable piece to trade away. Voracek's biggest knock all along was the lack of shooting. If he goes back to these bad habits, I'm all for trading him. If he keeps up a healthy balanced of shooting and passing at the proper times, I'll never wanna let go of him.
- dingo8urbaby

Jake Voracek was a better player even when Ville Leino was here in the O&B.

But you're a champion, so it doesn't matter!
- MJL

yes. yes, i am.

There are a lot of those guys like Gags and Morrow who are not signed right now.. Its crazy, but welcome to NHL 2014
- jak521

That's kind of my point. Those 30+ veteran depth guys are the ones suffering from this new CBA.

Its sad to see how the cap implications have pushed some of the savvy older vets, and "good team guys" out of the league earlier than before.
- jak521

yup this lowered cap is hurting players that would have been signed already for sure

Its sad to see how the cap implications have pushed some of the savvy older vets, and "good team guys" out of the league earlier than before.
- jak521

it's just one of many reasons i loathe the cap. it's turned the game into something it shouldn't be.

it's just one of many reasons i loathe the cap. it's turned the game into something it shouldn't be.
- hammarby31

At least it stopped the big spenders like Philadelphia, New York, and Toronto from winning the Cup every year and opened the door for team like Tampa Bay, Dallas, and NJ to be competitive.

yup this lowered cap is hurting players that would have been signed already for sure
- -davies-

jagr would probably still be a flyer for that matter. now, he's a sixer.

At least it stopped the big spenders like Philadelphia, New York, and Toronto from winning the Cup every year and opened the door for team like Tampa Bay, Dallas, and NJ to be competitive.
- jmatchett383

50/50 chance, I think he would like to stay but can the Flyers fit him in capwise?

1st pp unit

Hartnell-Giroux-Lecavalier
Streit-Voracek

??
- flyerdude17

According to Lava... the First pp unit will not change from last season.

Simmonds-G-Hartnell
Timonen-Voracek

At least it stopped the big spenders like Philadelphia, New York, and Toronto from winning the Cup every year and opened the door for team like Tampa Bay, Dallas, and NJ to be competitive.
- jmatchett383

Thats exactly what I never understood. Usually caps are put in place to make teams competitive, or prevent teams from just buying championships.. that was never a problem in the NHL.