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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 15 @ 11:26 AM ET
Thats why Giroux has been ranked as one of the best defensive forwards in the game, top 10. This isnt just my opinion, but players in the league that take votes and PROFESSIONAL hockey analyst who arent drinking the orange kool-aid.
- GOA88



I cant wait to read this!
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 15 @ 11:26 AM ET
MJL and Jak21 the new Bill Meltzers. lol
- flyerdude17

I keep forgetting you arent allowed to be critical of certain players..

Damn.. (frank)ing Gervais is a bum.

Is that better?
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Aug 15 @ 11:27 AM ET
Thats why Giroux has been ranked as one of the best defensive forwards in the game, top 10. This isnt just my opinion, but players in the league that take votes and PROFESSIONAL hockey analyst who arent drinking the orange kool-aid.
- GOA88

http://bleacherreport.com...o-way-forwards-in-the-nhl
He couldn't crack Bleacher Report's top 10, or even their honorable mentions.

For the record, it is Bleacher Report. But I do agree with most of their choices, although I'd have Richie in the top 5 and not as a HM.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 15 @ 11:27 AM ET
Thats why Giroux has been ranked as one of the best defensive forwards in the game, top 10. This isnt just my opinion, but players in the league that take votes and PROFESSIONAL hockey analyst who arent drinking the orange kool-aid.
- GOA88


I know it's an imperfect stat, but if you look at takeaways/game/time on ice (takeaways/average TOI), he's 4th on the team behind Couturier (1.64), Jake (1.22), Schenn (1.22). He's at 0.80. For a comparison, Datsyuk is at 2.78 and bergeron is at 1.20.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Aug 15 @ 11:27 AM ET
I keep forgetting you arent allowed to be critical of certain players..

Damn.. (frank)ing Gervais is a bum.

Is that better?

- jak521


Gervais is still on the team?


I really hope that these Mez healthy reports are true. I want to see our glass cannon come back reinforced!
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Aug 15 @ 11:27 AM ET
I keep forgetting you arent allowed to be critical of certain players..

Damn.. (frank)ing Gervais is a bum.

Is that better?

- jak521

YOU TAKE THAT BACK BRUNO IS A SAINT
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 15 @ 11:28 AM ET
YOU TAKE THAT BACK BRUNO IS A SAINT
- BulliesPhan87


Some things you just don't joke about...
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 15 @ 11:29 AM ET
Thats why Giroux has been ranked as one of the best defensive forwards in the game, top 10. This isnt just my opinion, but players in the league that take votes and PROFESSIONAL hockey analyst who arent drinking the orange kool-aid.
- GOA88

So I may be remissed, but doesnt drinking the "orange kool-aid" usually pertain to those who have lofty, unsubstantiated, and often ridiculous opinions due to a certain bias? Hmm.. thats totally me.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 15 @ 11:30 AM ET
So I may be remissed, but doesnt drinking the "orange kool-aid" usually pertain to those who have lofty, unsubstantiated, and often ridiculous opinions due to a certain bias? Hmm.. thats totally me.
- jak521


Think he was referring to himself.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 15 @ 11:31 AM ET
YOU TAKE THAT BACK BRUNO IS A SAINT
- BulliesPhan87

Wrong Bruno... I believe you are confusing the terrible defenseman on the Philadelphia Flyers with one, St. Bruno of Cologne.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruno_of_Cologne

Get'chyo facts straight bull.

EDIT: Dawg. Didnt even realize that the bull i was trying to use could be confused with a short form of your username jawn.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 15 @ 11:31 AM ET
Think he was referring to himself.
- jmatchett383

Oh...
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 15 @ 11:32 AM ET
Wrong Bruno... I believe you are confusing the terrible defenseman on the Philadelphia Flyers with one St. Bruno of Cologne.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruno_of_Cologne

Get'chyo facts straight bull.

- jak521


Bruno St. Jacques?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 15 @ 11:33 AM ET
Bruno St. Jacques?
- jmatchett383

Bruno St. of Jacquestraps was a hell of a player
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 15 @ 11:34 AM ET
Thats why Giroux has been ranked as one of the best defensive forwards in the game, top 10. This isnt just my opinion, but players in the league that take votes and PROFESSIONAL hockey analyst who arent drinking the orange kool-aid.
- GOA88



Feel free to provide a link to those rankings.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Aug 15 @ 11:35 AM ET
link?
- BulliesPhan87

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=81134
http://www.thehockeynews....-by-the-players-3531.html
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 15 @ 11:35 AM ET
Bruno St. of Jacquestraps was a hell of a player
- jak521


I just saw that we traded him and Brendl to Carolina for Sami Kapanen and Ryan Bast. Hell of a trade.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 15 @ 11:35 AM ET

Thats why Giroux has been ranked as one of the best defensive forwards in the game, top 10. This isnt just my opinion, but players in the league that take votes and PROFESSIONAL hockey analyst who arent drinking the orange kool-aid.
- GOA88

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=81134
http://www.thehockeynews....-by-the-players-3531.html

- GOA88


Where does it rank their defense?
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Aug 15 @ 11:37 AM ET
Where does it rank their defense?
- jmatchett383

I cant find a legit source for that
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 15 @ 11:37 AM ET
Where does it rank their defense?
- jmatchett383

Not to mention both of those were fresh off of a huge season.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 08.05.2013

Aug 15 @ 11:37 AM ET


man, this is fun stuff.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 15 @ 11:37 AM ET
I cant find a legit source for that
- GOA88

Does that make it an opinion? Which, btw, is fine. If you believe G to be one of the best 2 way players.. more power to ya... I just cant even begin to agree.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 15 @ 11:38 AM ET
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=81134
http://www.thehockeynews....-by-the-players-3531.html

- GOA88



Neither list is ranking the top defensive forwards in the League.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Aug 15 @ 11:38 AM ET
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=81134
http://www.thehockeynews....-by-the-players-3531.html

- GOA88

I thought this was a ranking of players defensive prowess? These are just players ranked in general.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 15 @ 11:39 AM ET
I cant find a legit source for that
- GOA88



But you stated that he has been ranked as one of the top defensive forwards.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 15 @ 11:39 AM ET
I cant find a legit source for that
- GOA88


Because there isn't one.
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