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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 14 @ 9:20 AM ET
It's risky, but I'd do it.
- micah555


If it didn't turn out you could bury him in the minors with a 300 K cap hit.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 14 @ 9:32 AM ET
If it didn't turn out you could bury him in the minors with a 300 K cap hit.
- VANTEL


Or trade him to Edm as an upgrade to JS...
Aerchon
Joined: 10.14.2011

Aug 14 @ 10:28 AM ET
So Edmonton ranks where? 5th or 6th instead of 7th?
- micah555


Yeah pretty much.

But there is a huge difference between having the 19th best GA and 28th.

He may "like" the flames top 4 but they are more than likely going to give up the most goals in the whole league this year and he has them above the Oil. That's blatantly wrong.


1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 14 @ 10:33 AM ET
Yeah pretty much.

But there is a huge difference between having the 19th best GA and 28th.

He may "like" the flames top 4 but they are more than likely going to give up the most goals in the whole league this year and he has them above the Oil. That's blatantly wrong.

- Aerchon




3 pts and the 7th pick instead of the 6th pick
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Aug 14 @ 10:43 AM ET
What's with the freaking Fox Sports advertising on the site? Are they an official HB sponsor...
- 1970vintage


You do realize the ads are specific to each user. So fox ads come up because you've recently visited their site.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 14 @ 10:49 AM ET
You do realize the ads are specific to each user. So fox ads come up because you've recently visited their site.
- Scooby_Doo




Its not a pop up or box ad, its the whole freaking page, the "desktop" or "wallpaper". And no, not been to the Fox Sports website, eva.
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Aug 14 @ 11:23 AM ET
Didn't Phi offer Weber like 19 Mil in bonuses the first yea?

What about Minny with Suter and Parise?

Do bonuses for RFAs count? I know for regular players it does and can be deflected to the following year.

- VANTEL


I believe Weber got a $1M salary for each of years 1 and 2, with a $13M signing bonus in each year. It meant he was guaranteed $13M last year, even if the season was cancelled. It also meant that he was guaranteed to make $26M+ in the first 365 days of the contract as the second $13M was due July 1.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Aug 14 @ 11:29 AM ET


Its not a pop up or box ad, its the whole freaking page, the "desktop" or "wallpaper". And no, not been to the Fox Sports website, eva.

- 1970vintage


They are like that for everyone, but I've never had fox. Sportchek and clearly contacts...
There are spiders in your computer that troll to see your interests and direct specific ads to you. Obviously you are a closet fox sports fan.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 14 @ 11:36 AM ET
They are like that for everyone, but I've never had fox. Sportchek and clearly contacts...
There are spiders in your computer that troll to see your interests and direct specific ads to you. Obviously you are a closet fox sports fan.

- Scooby_Doo




Must be some other business they own, maybe the Glen Beck home page
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Aug 14 @ 11:43 AM ET


Must be some other business they own, maybe the Glen Beck home page

- 1970vintage


I just switched from my ipad to desktop... i see what you mean with the fox sports add.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 14 @ 11:43 AM ET
I believe Weber got a $1M salary for each of years 1 and 2, with a $13M signing bonus in each year. It meant he was guaranteed $13M last year, even if the season was cancelled. It also meant that he was guaranteed to make $26M+ in the first 365 days of the contract as the second $13M was due July 1.
- KB3Point0


Yeah, and I believe that if you sign an RFA that all salary and bonus money is shortened to 5 years to calculate the compensation, so even if you sign a player to an 7 year $47,101,467 contract (Max contract with compensation of 1 x 1st, 1 x 2nd and 1 x 3rd), for the purposes of draft picks it is calculated as $47,101,467 / 5 = $9,420,293 per season, which means 4 x 1st rounders.
Aerchon
Joined: 10.14.2011

Aug 14 @ 12:23 PM ET


3 pts and the 7th pick instead of the 6th pick

- 1970vintage


We ARE talking about team defense not team standings.

Also just wanted to use some of those emotes that seem so popular.
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Aug 14 @ 1:05 PM ET
We ARE talking about team defense not team standings.

Also just wanted to use some of those emotes that seem so popular.

- Aerchon

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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 14 @ 1:22 PM ET
We ARE talking about team defense not team standings.

Also just wanted to use some of those emotes that seem so popular.

- Aerchon


Yeah, just saying that being the 19th overall team in Goals Against aint that great. Might be better then the Flames, debatable, seeing as Kiprusoff had his worst season ever...

Also, can't wait for the forward rankings, seeing as the Oilers were also the 19th ranked in Goals For (tied with a few others). Oiler fans are pretty high on their offensive stars...
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Aug 14 @ 1:55 PM ET
Yeah, just saying that being the 19th overall team in Goals Against aint that great. Might be better then the Flames, debatable, seeing as Kiprusoff had his worst season ever...

Also, can't wait for the forward rankings, seeing as the Oilers were also the 19th ranked in Goals For (tied with a few others). Oiler fans are pretty high on their offensive stars...

- 1970vintage


I have a feeling Oilers fans aren't going to be too happy when the forward rankings come out!
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Aug 14 @ 2:03 PM ET
I have a feeling Oilers fans aren't going to be too happy when the forward rankings come out!
- KB3Point0

you say "the forward rankings" as if they aren't "Ian Esplen, Vancouver Canucks Blogger's forward rankings".

I think we're all pretty aware that though our top 6 is good, pretty much the rest of our team is not that great.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Aug 14 @ 2:32 PM ET
you say "the forward rankings" as if they aren't "Ian Esplen, Vancouver Canucks Blogger's forward rankings".

I think we're all pretty aware that though our top 6 is good, pretty much the rest of our team is not that great.

- Morris


You mean Ian's rankings aren't infallible? Sacrebleu!
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Aug 14 @ 2:33 PM ET
you say "the forward rankings" as if they aren't "Ian Esplen, Vancouver Canucks Blogger's forward rankings".

I think we're all pretty aware that though our top 6 is good, pretty much the rest of our team is not that great.

- Morris


No. Ian's forward rankings are the official forward rankings for the division. What he says goes and the forwards from each team will abide by those rankings and ensure that their on ice performance this season is in line with their team's subsequent ranking within the division.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 14 @ 2:57 PM ET
I believe Weber got a $1M salary for each of years 1 and 2, with a $13M signing bonus in each year. It meant he was guaranteed $13M last year, even if the season was cancelled. It also meant that he was guaranteed to make $26M+ in the first 365 days of the contract as the second $13M was due July 1.
- KB3Point0


But did it coun't against the cap?
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Aug 14 @ 3:01 PM ET
But did it coun't against the cap?
- VANTEL


Yes.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 14 @ 3:03 PM ET
I keep hearing the Canucks keep kicking tires on Douglas Murray.

Maybe he can have a comeback year. I like his toughness.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 14 @ 3:14 PM ET
Sedin Sedin Kassian
Gaunce Kesler Burrows
Booth JS Jensen /Hansen
Higgins Richardson Hansen

Garrison Bieksa
Hamhuis Edler
Murray Corrado

Tanev
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Aug 14 @ 3:30 PM ET
Sedin Sedin Kassian
Gaunce Kesler Burrows
Booth JS Jensen /Hansen
Higgins Richardson Hansen

Garrison Bieksa
Hamhuis Edler
Murray Corrado

Tanev

- VANTEL


I think with Torts in charge, Henrik will be a 3rd line shutdown guy. I see the lines more like.

Sedin Horvat Shinkaruk
Booth Gaunce Kassian
Burrows Sedin Hansen
Higgins Lain Archibald
micah555
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC
Joined: 10.03.2007

Aug 14 @ 3:31 PM ET
Yeah, just saying that being the 19th overall team in Goals Against aint that great. Might be better then the Flames, debatable, seeing as Kiprusoff had his worst season ever...

Also, can't wait for the forward rankings, seeing as the Oilers were also the 19th ranked in Goals For (tied with a few others). Oiler fans are pretty high on their offensive stars...

- 1970vintage


Yeah, Kipper was not even a shell of his former self last year. And the fact he wouldn't even take a trade to try and win something tells you everything you need to know about his commitment to winning. Dubnyk had a great season for himself; Edmonton had the easy advantage in net.

I honestly have no opinion about who's D is worse, but they are at least comparably bad.
micah555
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC
Joined: 10.03.2007

Aug 14 @ 3:31 PM ET
I keep hearing the Canucks keep kicking tires on Douglas Murray.

Maybe he can have a comeback year. I like his toughness.

- VANTEL


Murray can't skate. He moves in slow motion on the ice.
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