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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Aug 10 @ 11:27 PM ET
An opinion is an opinion. Everyone has them. Especially you. If you dont like it dont attack someone.
- vancity787


Exactly. But again, what you see as an attack could just be anothers opinion.
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 10 @ 11:27 PM ET
This list is as stupid as someone calling someone else fat. I think both sides in this case are idiots, on different levels.
- systemtool


It's completely different to call someone fat than to call someone an idiot for their opinion...one is bullying, one is rudely criticizing someone
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Aug 10 @ 11:28 PM ET
Just because you "can" say something doesn't mean you should..... Right Paula Deen!
- undisputed_8821


My point exactly. More to my point though, is that if you're going to say something, then you should be held accountable.
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 10 @ 11:28 PM ET
Exactly. But again, what you see as an attack could just be anothers opinion.
- systemtool


No, in the case of calling him fat, that is bullying, not an opinion...saying he's got no hockey knowledge is an opinion...there is a difference there
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Aug 10 @ 11:29 PM ET
But in this case, how far do you have to go before your "opinion" of someone becomes bullying someone?
- annoyance_101


I dont think anybody is being bullied in this case.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Aug 10 @ 11:30 PM ET
No, in the case of calling him fat, that is bullying, not an opinion...saying he's got no hockey knowledge is an opinion...there is a difference there
- annoyance_101


both could be seen as bullying as much as they can be seen as expressions of ones opinion or view on things.
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 10 @ 11:31 PM ET
My point exactly. More to my point though, is that if you're going to say something, then you should be held accountable.
- systemtool


Calling someone fat for having an opinion is the same as being a racist or a bigot for someone having an opinion...if Cloutiers opinion was in any way racist or bigot related, then that would be warranted...but calling him fat had absolutely nothing to do with what the guy said in the first place...it was just an out right insult, you dont see to see the difference between criticizing someone and out right insulting and bullying them
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 10 @ 11:31 PM ET
both could be seen as bullying as much as they can be seen as expressions of ones opinion or view on things.
- systemtool


a view of a hockey team could never be considered bullying...making fun of someones weight on the other hand is out right bullying
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Aug 10 @ 11:32 PM ET
Calling someone fat for having an opinion is the same as being a racist or a bigot for someone having an opinion...if Cloutiers opinion was in any way racist or bigot related, then that would be warranted...but calling him fat had absolutely nothing to do with what the guy said in the first place...it was just an out right insult, you dont see to see the difference between criticizing someone and out right insulting and bullying them
- annoyance_101


woah..okay...i think this is where this conversation ends.

FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Aug 10 @ 11:33 PM ET
A friend? Im defending freedom of speech. That is HIS opinion of Cloutier. Whats the issue here?
- systemtool


Its Freedom of Speech not Freedom to be a D1ck

I kid, I kid
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Aug 10 @ 11:33 PM ET
a view of a hockey team could never be considered bullying...making fun of someones weight on the other hand is out right bullying
- annoyance_101


I dont think he made fun of his weight. He just called a fat man fat. Thats honesty son.
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 10 @ 11:33 PM ET
woah..okay...i think this is where this conversation ends.
- systemtool


FINALLY something shut you up
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
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Aug 10 @ 11:34 PM ET
I dont think he made fun of his weight. He just called a fat man fat. Thats honesty son.
- systemtool


No, its bullying
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 10 @ 11:35 PM ET
Its Freedom of Speech not Freedom to be a D1ck

I kid, I kid

- FrmRusiaWifGlov

systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Aug 10 @ 11:35 PM ET
FINALLY something shut you up
- annoyance_101


Oh im still here. Ive just decided you're completely clueless and have a rather weak stance on your end of this debate. You're fat.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Aug 10 @ 11:37 PM ET
Its Freedom of Speech not Freedom to be a D1ck

I kid, I kid

- FrmRusiaWifGlov


Of course you kid. We have the freedom to do/be both.

The problem is that people have the freedom to be puss1es too, and they abuse that right.
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
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Aug 10 @ 11:37 PM ET
Oh im still here. Ive just decided you're completely clueless and have a rather weak stance on your end of this debate. You're fat.
- systemtool


I'm 5'10" and 125LB, see you don't know anything about me... but you attempted to bully me in the same way that Cloutier was technically bullied, not that I think Cloutier gave a crap, I was just pointing out its not an opinion to call someone fat...and it was not relevant to anything he said in the first place...
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Aug 10 @ 11:38 PM ET
I'm 5'10" and 125LB, see you don't know anything about me... but you attempted to bully me in the same way that Cloutier was technically bullied, not that I think Cloutier gave a crap, I was just pointing out its not an opinion to call someone fat...and it was not relevant to anything he said in the first place...
- annoyance_101



You're not just fat, but phat and large. Huge. Tub of lard.

annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 10 @ 11:39 PM ET


You're not just fat, but phat and large. Huge. Tub of lard.

- systemtool


As I said, sad attempt at bullying, its not an opinion when you say that and you don't seem to see the difference I don't think you ever will either
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Aug 10 @ 11:40 PM ET
As I said, sad attempt at bullying, its not an opinion when you say that and you don't seem to see the difference I don't think you ever will either
- annoyance_101


So, how long have you been fat? Are you Cloutier size?
undisputed_8821
Edmonton Oilers
Location: somewhere you're not!, AB
Joined: 01.28.2011

Aug 10 @ 11:41 PM ET


You're not just fat, but phat and large. Huge. Tub of lard.

- systemtool

Good to see you hold yourself in high regard! There is a thing called "class" and as someone mentioned before respect needs to be earned and you my friend have NO clue on how to earn it!
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Aug 10 @ 11:43 PM ET
Good to see you hold yourself in high regard! There is a thing called "class" and as someone mentioned before respect need to be earned and you my friend have NO clue on how to earn it!
- undisputed_8821


Im just here busting balls. I have no interest in doing anything more than rattling cages and preying on the easy targets who get riled up with minimal effort.

Oh wait...you're bullying me aren't you!?
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 10 @ 11:43 PM ET
So, how long have you been fat? Are you Cloutier size?
- systemtool


I've said my weight, I'm far from being fat
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 10 @ 11:43 PM ET
Good to see you hold yourself in high regard! There is a thing called "class" and as someone mentioned before respect needs to be earned and you my friend have NO clue on how to earn it!
- undisputed_8821


annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 10 @ 11:44 PM ET
Im just here busting balls. I have no interest in doing anything more than rattling cages and preying on the easy targets who get riled up with minimal effort.

Oh wait...you're bullying me aren't you!?

- systemtool


I'm half asleep, you've hardly rattled my cage
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