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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 9 @ 4:05 PM ET


without carle, they don't even make the playoffs. he scored the game tying goal against CSP in the final game that got them to the shootout.

- hammarby31


What you REALLY MEAN is that, if they don't have Carle and all of his horriffic turnovers, they don't need to win that game to get in. It's okay, you can admit it.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Aug 9 @ 4:06 PM ET
Wow it seems like Flyers Hate Day everywhere outside of this board.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Aug 9 @ 4:11 PM ET
I suppose it can be, but I'm pushing 50 and it really beats dropping dead of a heart attack before I reach 60.
- BiggE


I dont know dude... Watching my grandmother go through dymensia and my grandfather having testicular cancer, surviving that, to get multiple picked nerves in his shoulder, and cancer cells in his eyes..... I am seriously considering eating some fatty food and start smoking cigarettes. I dont want to slowly fall apart... give me a massive coronary any day!
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Aug 9 @ 4:23 PM ET
What you REALLY MEAN is that, if they don't have Carle and all of his horriffic turnovers, they don't need to win that game to get in. It's okay, you can admit it.
- jmatchett383


i see what you did there.

i'm neither a carle supporter, nor a carle basher.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Aug 9 @ 4:31 PM ET

Good lineup Bill, however my money would be on my 80s team if the 2 could ever meet:

GOAL
1. Pelle Lindbergh
2. Ron Hextall

D Pairings
Howe-McCrimmon
Wells-Samuelsson
Marsh-Murphy

Forward Lines
Propp-Poulin-Kerr
Barber-Clarke-Tocchet
Craven-Sutter-Sinisalo
Eklund-Linseman-Holmgren

Either way it sure be a fun game to watch!
- BiggE


love this line-up

- hammarby31


I'll take the 90's team.

LeClair-Lindros-Renberg
ProppBrind'Amour-Kerr
Eklund-Tocchet-Recchi
Podein-Otto-Klatt

Howe-Desjardins
Deuchenes-Samuelsson
Yushkevich-Therien

Hextall
Snow
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Aug 9 @ 4:33 PM ET
I'll take the 90's team.

LeClair-Lindros-Renberg
ProppBrind'Amour-Kerr
Eklund-Tocchet-Recchi
Podein-Otto-Klatt

Howe-Desjardins
Deuchenes-Samuelsson
Yushkevich-Therien

Hextall
Snow

- youarewrong


I don't like to besmirch the name of Mark Howe, but the 1990's version of Mark Howe couldn't carry the skates of 1980's Mark Howe.....mostly because 1990's Mark Howe had a debilitating back problem.

I think Bill would even agree with that one.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Aug 9 @ 4:39 PM ET
I don't like to besmirch the name of Mark Howe, but the 1990's version of Mark Howe couldn't carry the skates of 1980's Mark Howe.....mostly because 1990's Mark Howe had a debilitating back problem.

I think Bill would even agree with that one.

- johndewar


No Biggie, take out Howe and enter either Richardson, Dykhous, Svboda, or.... BURT!
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Aug 9 @ 5:21 PM ET
i see what you did there.

i'm neither a carle supporter, nor a carle basher.

- hammarby31


Equal opportunity ?
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Aug 9 @ 5:34 PM ET
Equal opportunity ?
- ob18


That is either Communism, Socialism, or Racism... I'm not sure which...
twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

Aug 9 @ 5:43 PM ET
Where is the original gang from the early years on this site? Where is our buddy from kitchener with the bubbles aviator? Where is FF16?
- dingo8urbaby


All dead, killed by a matt carle slapshot.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Aug 9 @ 5:57 PM ET
I am in an awesome mood today, just bought new jeans, size 36!! Just 4 months ago I was wearing size 42!! Now if the NHL season was starting tonight, it would truly be a perfect day!!


- BiggE

Congrats LessBIGGE!
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Aug 9 @ 5:59 PM ET
Your Mom? Was the card under her pillow? I was just waiting for Flyersgrace, Bodiva, and Tocchet aka Davies or whatever her new name is go come in and start drooling.
- youarewrong

He was ok. But E is the one who made my heart beat faster. He was a 4% body fat guy with a fine face to join that fine body.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Aug 9 @ 6:01 PM ET
I suppose it can be, but I'm pushing 50 and it really beats dropping dead of a heart attack before I reach 60.
- BiggE

A year ago I acknowledged I had made myself disabled and I was in control of reversing that. Size 26 to Size 18 jeans so far. I actually enjoy the new lifestyle. Love swimming, enjoy the gym, and eating thoughtfully doesn't mean you can't enjoy your meals.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Aug 9 @ 6:03 PM ET
I dont know dude... Watching my grandmother go through dymensia and my grandfather having testicular cancer, surviving that, to get multiple picked nerves in his shoulder, and cancer cells in his eyes..... I am seriously considering eating some fatty food and start smoking cigarettes. I dont want to slowly fall apart... give me a massive coronary any day!
- youarewrong

diet and exercise can improve your chances of avoiding dementia.
phillyphanatic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Doylestown, PA
Joined: 11.12.2012

Aug 9 @ 6:06 PM ET
Wow it seems like Flyers Hate Day everywhere outside of this board.
- JAKEw1234


Yeah Cloutier with his asinine assessment of the Flyers organization and the fans. He's totally clueless. And he's such a homer it's almost unbelievable... he put the Oilers #1 as the most interesting team in the league. Gimme a break. And Calgary was #2 haha, over the likes of Toronto, Dallas (who I think is very interesting), Vancouver, us, Pittsburgh, Detroit, etc.

And then there was the Canes blogger (don't know his name) who went trolling for hits the other day by ripping the Flyers to shreds. I mean the Hurricanes and Oilers writers are acting superior after we have one bad season. We're not the Golden Seals. And both those clubs were worse than the Flyers anyway. What's going on?
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Aug 9 @ 6:28 PM ET
He was ok. But E is the one who made my heart beat faster. He was a 4% body fat guy with a fine face to join that fine body.
- bodiva88


flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Aug 9 @ 6:41 PM ET
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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Aug 9 @ 7:20 PM ET
Yeah Cloutier with his asinine assessment of the Flyers organization and the fans. He's totally clueless. And he's such a homer it's almost unbelievable... he put the Oilers #1 as the most interesting team in the league. Gimme a break. And Calgary was #2 haha, over the likes of Toronto, Dallas (who I think is very interesting), Vancouver, us, Pittsburgh, Detroit, etc.

And then there was the Canes blogger (don't know his name) who went trolling for hits the other day by ripping the Flyers to shreds. I mean the Hurricanes and Oilers writers are acting superior after we have one bad season. We're not the Golden Seals. And both those clubs were worse than the Flyers anyway. What's going on?

- phillyphanatic

The Canes writer one was especially funny because the day before we were all having a conversation how the Flyers get the most hits to this site out of any US team. Unfortunately there cannot be 30 Metzlers for 30 teams that you know, write hockey.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 9 @ 7:31 PM ET
I don't like to besmirch the name of Mark Howe, but the 1990's version of Mark Howe couldn't carry the skates of 1980's Mark Howe.....mostly because 1990's Mark Howe had a debilitating back problem.

I think Bill would even agree with that one.

- johndewar


The 1990's version of Howe was still pretty effective when healthy. Bill's mentioned a few times that Howe remained the Flyers best and most effective defenseman, despite the back limiting the number of games and his effectiveness.

dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Aug 9 @ 10:04 PM ET
I wish EA Sports would come out with an NHL game that puts each team around the league's all time best players on the team where they were most known for and at their best but also cannot use a certain player twice. Example Rick Toccket cannot be on both the Flyers and Penguins, just one. Also in doing this have facts about each team and some of the players. There would also be little reason to add all 3O teams. Just the ones with the most wealth of history and talent.
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Aug 9 @ 11:55 PM ET
Hopefully the Flyers have a blueprint for the entire season including transactions for players at the end of their contracts. Dan Boyle remains a horse on the back end even at the age of 37. I think all eyes should be on how well the Sharks play and Boyle In particular. I have no doubt the asking price won't be cheap but I couldn't be more sick of waiting for a Cup.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Aug 10 @ 12:26 AM ET
I wish EA Sports would come out with an NHL game that puts each team around the league's all time best players on the team where they were most known for and at their best but also cannot use a certain player twice. Example Rick Toccket cannot be on both the Flyers and Penguins, just one. Also in doing this have facts about each team and some of the players. There would also be little reason to add all 3O teams. Just the ones with the most wealth of history and talent.
- dingo8urbaby

Why do you hope that? They'll just disgustingly underrate all of the Flyers players while simultaneously skyrocketing Vancouver players' ratings (the game is made in Vancouver). Example, at the end of the season overall updates this year, after Voracek put up just shy of a point per game, and over the past 82 games proved he is one of the premier RWers in the league:
Ilya Kovalchuk- 82 games- 31 goals- 43 assists- 74 points
Patrick Kane- 82 games- 35 goals- 46 assists- 81 points
Marian Gaborik- 82 games- 26 goals- 29 assists- 55 points
Jakub Voracek- 82 games- 33 goals- 41 assists- 74 points
They decided in their infinite wisdom to make him an 82 overall. Then, in their further wisdom, they decided Cory Schneider had the season of his career, and he deserved to be bumped up from an 82 (I think?) up to an 87, and that Luongo had a fantastic season and deserved to remain an 89. The Vancouver bias is subtle yet obvious when you notice it, and it makes me more angry then it probably should
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Aug 10 @ 12:31 AM ET
Hopefully the Flyers have a blueprint for the entire season including transactions for players at the end of their contracts. Dan Boyle remains a horse on the back end even at the age of 37. I think all eyes should be on how well the Sharks play and Boyle In particular. I have no doubt the asking price won't be cheap but I couldn't be more sick of waiting for a Cup.
- dingo8urbaby

I sort of dislike acquiring at the deadline, always seems to do nothing but wreck line chemistry.
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Aug 10 @ 12:40 AM ET
Why do you hope that? They'll just disgustingly underrate all of the Flyers players while simultaneously skyrocketing Vancouver players' ratings (the game is made in Vancouver). Example, at the end of the season overall updates this year, after Voracek put up just shy of a point per game, and over the past 82 games proved he is one of the premier RWers in the league:
Ilya Kovalchuk- 82 games- 31 goals- 43 assists- 74 points
Patrick Kane- 82 games- 35 goals- 46 assists- 81 points
Marian Gaborik- 82 games- 26 goals- 29 assists- 55 points
Jakub Voracek- 82 games- 33 goals- 41 assists- 74 points
They decided in their infinite wisdom to make him an 82 overall. Then, in their further wisdom, they decided Cory Schneider had the season of his career, and he deserved to be bumped up from an 82 (I think?) up to an 87, and that Luongo had a fantastic season and deserved to remain an 89. The Vancouver bias is subtle yet obvious when you notice it, and it makes me more angry then it probably should

- JAKEw1234


I just thought it would be cool to play a hockey game where I could play as Lindros and LeClair again. Or even Clarke and Barber for the first time.

I do agree that some players might get overrated. I would be okay with current players on these teams if deserving. It would be interesting to see love you, Crosby and Jagr on one team.

Understand? Rating wouldn't be as important as the names already in the history books or headed there.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Aug 10 @ 12:43 AM ET
I just thought it would be cool to play a hockey game where I could play as Lindros and LeClair again. Or even Clarke and Barber for the first time.

I do agree that some players might get overrated. I would be okay with current players on these teams if deserving. It would be interesting to see love you, Crosby and Jagr on one team.

Understand? Rating wouldn't be as important as the names already in the history books or headed there.

- dingo8urbaby

Ya, I understand that. It is a little insulting that they have Crosby (and Lemiuex) rated higher than Gretzky in the game, though.
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