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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 8 @ 4:28 PM ET
Sure - but we said 1.1. You agree that eating 1.1 of Liles is better right? You keep saying "eating any of Liles contract is worse" - which it clearly isn't.

Although, this year is perhaps the most difficult cap-wise, so there's a good argument that even the 1.8 is better (if it helps you have more money to keep Franson and Kadri).

- The Law



*gasp*
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Aug 8 @ 4:30 PM ET
Kadri will get 5.5-6M, most likely back loaded so his qualifying offer in 2yrs is higher. Something like 1.8M and 3.7M, cap hit of 2.75M
- Symba007



I like this.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 8 @ 4:30 PM ET
If he ends up having to keep salary yes I agree, but I dont agree that he made the best decision if that happens. I prefer a 2 year cap hit instead of 3.

If you want to get down to it, I would prefer to keep Franson, Kadri and the 3 draft picks instead of Bolland and Kadri, if we have to lose franson because we are out of space.

- senstroll



Why?? You seem to assume that if he retains salary he's desperate.... how do you know that it wasn't part of the plan all along??


I don't think we are out of space. we have 6.2mil and if you retain half of liles $$ that adds another 1.875 mil. 8mil is enough to get Kadri and Franson done.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 8 @ 4:32 PM ET
Kadri will get 5.5-6M, most likely back loaded so his qualifying offer in 2yrs is higher. Something like 1.8M and 3.7M, cap hit of 2.75M
- Symba007



Do they have to qualify him at the $$ or the cap hit..... I thought it was the cap hit??
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Aug 8 @ 4:34 PM ET
@BobMacKenzie per trustworthy source Kadri and Franson traded to who gives a poop for a change of topic in Mike Augello's thread
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Aug 8 @ 4:34 PM ET
This gets lost in all the drama I think. At the time I was pretty happy, cause I knew we had like 20 something mil of cap space.
Now, I kind of wish we went for a lesser UFA option, or traded those picks for someone else to play 3C. Or even play colborne there if it costs us keeping franson otherwise.

- pbrsimps


especially if Bolland is a one and done in Toronto, as will likely be the case
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Aug 8 @ 4:36 PM ET
@BobMacKenzie per trustworthy source Kadri and Franson traded to who gives a poop for a change of topic in Mike Augello's thread
- RickJames77


i enjoy it. otherwise the topic turns to food or Kevin Costner movies (see Engels thread).
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 8 @ 4:36 PM ET
This gets lost in all the drama I think. At the time I was pretty happy, cause I knew we had like 20 something mil of cap space.
Now, I kind of wish we went for a lesser UFA option, or traded those picks for someone else to play 3C. Or even play colborne there if it costs us keeping franson otherwise.

- pbrsimps



Who would you have signed??

Who would you rather have traded for (using those picks)??


It wont cost us franson. We could have enough cap space to pay Kari 3.5 and Franson 4.5. That is more than enough to get it done.
UsernameUnknown
Seattle Kraken
Location: Gotta' Catch Em All!
Joined: 03.25.2013

Aug 8 @ 4:37 PM ET
especially if Bolland is a one and done in Toronto, as will likely be the case
- DoubleDown

I've actually been wondering this myself.
Why does everyone assume he's a 1 and done?
I'm not saying we should keep him long term, Im just curious as to where the 1 and done concept came from for Bollands case?
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 8 @ 4:37 PM ET
especially if Bolland is a one and done in Toronto, as will likely be the case
- DoubleDown



Why?
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Aug 8 @ 4:38 PM ET
Who would you have signed??

Who would you rather have traded for (using those picks)??


It wont cost us franson. We could have enough cap space to pay Kari 3.5 and Franson 4.5. That is more than enough to get it done.

- burn

and the salary cap is going back up next year
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Aug 8 @ 4:38 PM ET
@BobMacKenzie per trustworthy source Kadri and Franson traded to who gives a poop for a change of topic in Mike Augello's thread
- RickJames77


Don't make me come over there...
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Aug 8 @ 4:39 PM ET
Why?
- burn


Yeah...why?
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Aug 8 @ 4:40 PM ET
Don't make me come over there...
- Woderwick

bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Aug 8 @ 4:41 PM ET
All this talk of a deal... where's this money coming from?
- Ferrari

the fans
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Aug 8 @ 4:41 PM ET

- RickJames77



Woah! I'm good...carry on.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Aug 8 @ 4:41 PM ET
the fans
- bobbyisno1

Still got the avi I see
Betelgeuse
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 05.19.2012

Aug 8 @ 4:42 PM ET
i enjoy it. otherwise the topic turns to food or Kevin Costner movies (see Engels thread).
- DoubleDown

Don't forget birds.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Aug 8 @ 4:42 PM ET
Woah! I'm good...carry on.
- Woderwick

That's what I thought

DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Aug 8 @ 4:44 PM ET
Why?
- burn


just assuming. he'd likely cost $5 million-ish. (the assumption is that if he had a lousy year and took a paycut, neither side would want to sign a deal...so im assuming he puts up 20 goals or so and the Leafs wanna bring him back). i would imagine there would be a cap issue there? Kessel is looking at a $3 million raise. Phaneuf could command one too. you''ve got guys like Kadri and Gardiner likely looking at raises a year later, plus Bernier or Reimer. depends where the cap goes i guess.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Aug 8 @ 4:44 PM ET
Don't forget birds.
- Betelgeuse

How about birds, cooked for food, in a Kevin Costner movie ala dances with wolves...
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Aug 8 @ 4:48 PM ET
Still got the avi I see
- RickJames77



Yes........does......it.....quite
.......he.........and....is...........distracting.
Betelgeuse
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 05.19.2012

Aug 8 @ 4:48 PM ET
Adam makes a good point.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Aug 8 @ 4:52 PM ET
Still got the avi I see
- RickJames77

why, it's not offensive
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Aug 8 @ 4:52 PM ET
Adam makes a good point.
- Betelgeuse

Golddust is pretty much Lady Gaga
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