Back to my argument about Pysyk(sorry haven't been here much to defend myself).


I called him and a few others in the system scrubs. A scrub to me is someone no one outside of Buffalo has really heard of and isn't a proven commodity. Basically, if there was a game tomorrow, the opposition doesn't think of him as a threat. In fact, less than a threat, barely a factor.


Pysyk played 19 games and was a minus 7. And that's at the end of the season where the team mostly looked better. But for some reason where ready to assume he's a stud. My knock wasn't on Mark Pysyk my knock was on Sabres fans. We're just as bad as Darcy.

And that's you to NF. Calling me out over a guy who played 19 games and was a minus 7. Seriously?
- Buffalo--Sabres

Other than those 19 games he played here, how much have you seen him play? Because that's too small of a sample size to form an opinion one way or the other.

Other than those 19 games he played here, how much have you seen him play? Because that's too small of a sample size to form an opinion one way or the other.
- HonkFortheGoose

I'm not sure whether or not the expectations for Pysyk are too lofty, but he is right in one regard. The Sabres do not have one prospect or one player in the system right now that I feel confident will be an absolute superstar. The last time the Sabres rebuilt (call it 03 or 04ish), they drafted Vanek. Briere showed the potential to be dominant. People had high hopes for Miller despite his meltdown, and they went out and got a guy in Drury that showed he could play big when it counted. The Sabres don't have any of that. Their goaltending pool is so-so. The closest thing to a potential elite scorer they have is Grigorenko who seems to be mired with red flags. The next best thing seems to be Armia who also has question marks surrounding his desire to be great. They look strongest on defense, but even then, I see a bunch of solid players but really no superstars, not even Ristolainen, who sounds more and more like he will develop, but also peak earlier than most. I understand that it's more exciting watching younger kids try to make their way into established NHLers than watching the same group of veterans fail in the same way year after year, but I do believe that people's expectations (not necessarily yours) are way too high, at least with this group as it is now.

Other than those 19 games he played here, how much have you seen him play? Because that's too small of a sample size to form an opinion one way or the other.
- HonkFortheGoose

I typed a whole response and this poopty asus laptop deleted it


Anyway, I'm tired of the scrub culture. We suck and we put marginal players on a pedestal and call it progress. And sell out every seat doing it.

I typed a whole response and this poopty asus laptop deleted it


Anyway, I'm tired of the scrub culture. We suck and we put marginal players on a pedestal and call it progress. And sell out every seat doing it.
- Buffalo--Sabres

Here you go with your ticket argument.

Let's not even go there ok?

And don't tell me that if you had seasons you'd give them up knowing there's a huge ass waiting list.

I'm not sure whether or not the expectations for Pysyk are too lofty, but he is right in one regard. The Sabres do not have one prospect or one player in the system right now that I feel confident will be an absolute superstar. The last time the Sabres rebuilt (call it 03 or 04ish), they drafted Vanek. Briere showed the potential to be dominant. People had high hopes for Miller despite his meltdown, and they went out and got a guy in Drury that showed he could play big when it counted. The Sabres don't have any of that. Their goaltending pool is so-so. The closest thing to a potential elite scorer they have is Grigorenko who seems to be mired with red flags. The next best thing seems to be Armia who also has question marks surrounding his desire to be great. They look strongest on defense, but even then, I see a bunch of solid players but really no superstars, not even Ristolainen, who sounds more and more like he will develop, but also peak earlier than most. I understand that it's more exciting watching younger kids try to make their way into established NHLers than watching the same group of veterans fail in the same way year after year, but I do believe that people's expectations (not necessarily yours) are way too high, at least with this group as it is now.
- buffalofan19

I understand both sides of the argument, but I do have realistic expectations for Pysyk. Based on what I've seen, I think he's going to be a good defenseman. He's going to be steady but not flashy. I said it earlier, he's Teppo Numminen. He plays a very similar game. He can put point up, but he's more content to stay back and let the guy he's paired with go up ice. Most games, we probably won't even notice him. But in my opinion, that means he's doing his job as a defenseman.

Myers+ for Petro

I understand both sides of the argument, but I do have realistic expectations for Pysyk. Based on what I've seen, I think he's going to be a good defenseman. He's going to be steady but not flashy. I said it earlier, he's Teppo Numminen. He plays a very similar game. He can put point up, but he's more content to stay back and let the guy he's paired with go up ice. Most games, we probably won't even notice him. But in my opinion, that means he's doing his job as a defenseman.
- HonkFortheGoose

The kid plays 19 games and he's Teppo Numminen now? Teppo played over 1300 career games. This is a joke right? Are we also going to pretend Myers didn't look great as a rookie and blows now?

Tradsies backsies?





















Pretty Please?

The kid plays 19 games and he's Teppo Numminen now? Teppo played over 1300 career games. This is a joke right? Are we also going to pretend Myers didn't look great as a rookie and blows now?
- Buffalo--Sabres

I was using that as an example. It's the type of game he plays. You take all of this stuff way too personally.

Just got my pay lafontaine jersey from aliexpress.com..

It's real... And it's spectacular!

Best $28 I've ever spent. Even says made in Canada on the tag, and it's official and the couloirs are correct. K
- Da_Cashman

they are happy too. they get to sell your credit card info


edit: it's a joke... just in case anyone couldn't tell...

in all seriousness tho, hows the quality? the images on the website... you can clearly tell they are fake. in your hands loook any different than the pic?

The kid plays 19 games and he's Teppo Numminen now? Teppo played over 1300 career games. This is a joke right? Are we also going to pretend Myers didn't look great as a rookie and blows now?
- Buffalo--Sabres

This is from Adam French's Prospect breakdown:

6. Mark Pysyk : 23rd Overall, 2010, 21 years old, 6’1 198lbs, Rochester Americans in the AHL


Pysyk doesn’t have the higher potential of some of the guys in the top-5 which is why he just misses out despite being the most NHL ready of the lot. He’s an excellent skating defensive defenseman that plays a really steady, safe and smart game. He’s at his best when you don’t really notice him, because that means he’s playing his game and not making major errors. In the future the hope is that he can be the complimentary partner to a more erratic risk taking defenseman and essentially play his nanny. He’s what I like to call the “new breed” of defensive defenders, guys who are extremely smart positionally who are also plus skaters. Think guys like a Teppo Numminen, a Zbynek Michalek, a less offensive Paul Martin or a less physical Mark Methot. Somebody you can plug beside a really talented guy and have them make few mistakes and just help clean up. He probably will fill in fulltime for the Sabres next season.

Potential : Top-4 Defensive Defenseman

But apparently I'm the crazy one.

This is from Adam French's Prospect breakdown:



But apparently I'm the crazy one.
- HonkFortheGoose

To be fair, French is nuts. It's just not his prospect breakdowns that make him so.

The Avs alone have 4 better centers then Cody Hodgson and they stink.

Duchene
Stastny
O'Reilly
MacKinnon(Presumed)
- AvsFanYeaa

I've tried teaching the sabres fans about the Avs, they never understand

bold is all wrong
- TaroTsujimoto

Hodgson is one if the worst defensive forwards I've ever seen. Oreily is a great TWF and Mackinnon is assumed that he will be better. Stastny has a similar game to hodgson but is further developed I think he's better for now

Hodgson is one if the worst defensive forwards I've ever seen. Oreily is a great TWF and Mackinnon is assumed that he will be better. Stastny has a similar game to hodgson but is further developed I think he's better for now
- MattDuchene9

Only his 2nd year i'm sure he will get much better

Only his 2nd year i'm sure he will get much better
- gerbe75pts

That's why I sad for now. He said hodgson is better than oreily stastny and Mackinnon which is not at all true. He's actually older than oreily and duchene and his defensive game is much worse. He's also been in and out of the league for 4 years. I think someone who would rather take hodgson over the 4 Avs center is either crazy or an ignorant sabres fan

That's why I sad for now. He said hodgson is better than oreily stastny and Mackinnon which is not at all true. He's actually older than oreily and duchene and his defensive game is much worse. He's also been in and out of the league for 4 years. I think someone who would rather take hodgson over the 4 Avs center is either crazy or an ignorant sabres fan
- MattDuchene9

I would take both Mackinnon, duchene

oreily , stastny not so much

I like ryan o'reilly but we have a player like him in girgensons

I would take both Mackinnon, duchene

oreily , stastny not so much

I like ryan o'reilly but we have a player like him in girgensons
- gerbe75pts

Look who's back

For me they're pretty close but I'd take Girgensons on the sole fact that he has a way cooler name.

Look who's back

For me they're pretty close but I'd take Girgensons on the sole fact that he has a way cooler name.
- Sabresfan-365

too bad we did nothing

You think Cody Hodgson is one of the top 15 centers in the NHL? Here's 21 players that are all better than Hodgson, not to take anything away from him, I like the kid. But he's in no way shape or form better than these 21 guys, unless you're simply looking at his points from the lockout year last year, which would be stupid.

Cindy Crosby
E. Malkin
Steven Stamkos
Jonathan Toews
Derek Stepan
Eric Staal
Jason Spezza
John Tavares
Joe Thornton
Henrik Sedin
Pavel Datsyuk
Henrik Zetterberg
Anze Kopitar
Ryan Getzlaf
Patrice Bergeron
Ryan Kesler
Logan Couture
David Krecji
Jamie Benn
David Backes
Nick Backstrom
- LeftCoaster

I cant believe the hype/propaganda ive been hearing out of Buffalo on Hodgson. Is it not a coincidence that once Hodgson became your 1st line center, Buffalo became a last place team? Buffalo has no depth at that position, he was a third liner in Van and could not play against teams top players, too slow, he still is. Im going to add some more NHL centers that are better then Hodgson, he's probably the 35th best skill center in the NHL, and on almost all the good teams he wouldn't crack top 6 center because most good teams have 2 skill centers better then him, im not talking about 2 way centers because he's not a very good defensive player, otherwise id add Berglund, Bolland, Bozak, etc to the list of better centers:

Joe Pavalski
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
Valteri Filpula
Mike Richards
Jordan Staal
Sam Gagner
Matt Duchesne
Nathan McKinnon
Brad Marchand
Jonathan Huberdeau
Kyle Turris
Mikko Koivu
Sean Couturier
Danny Briere
Vincient LeCavalier
To say Hodgson is in a group with the top 15 centers in the NHL is silly, you must be joking.

I cant believe the hype/propaganda ive been hearing out of Buffalo on Hodgson. Is it not a coincidence that once Hodgson became your 1st line center, Buffalo became a last place team? Buffalo has no depth at that position, he was a third liner in Van and could not play against teams top players, too slow, he still is. Im going to add some more NHL centers that are better then Hodgson, he's probably the 35th best skill center in the NHL, and on almost all the good teams he wouldn't crack top 6 center because most good teams have 2 skill centers better then him, im not talking about 2 way centers because he's not a very good defensive player, otherwise id add Berglund, Bolland, Bozak, etc to the list of better centers:

Joe Pavalski
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
Valteri Filpula
Mike Richards
Jordan Staal
Sam Gagner
Matt Duchesne
Nathan McKinnon
Brad Marchand
Jonathan Huberdeau
Kyle Turris
Mikko Koivu
Sean Couturier
Danny Briere
Vincient LeCavalier
To say Hodgson is in a group with the top 15 centers in the NHL is silly, you must be joking.
- gunner2233

Filpulla sucks so much at C the wings moved him to the wing, Weiss there instead

I cant believe the hype/propaganda ive been hearing out of Buffalo on Hodgson. Is it not a coincidence that once Hodgson became your 1st line center, Buffalo became a last place team? Buffalo has no depth at that position, he was a third liner in Van and could not play against teams top players, too slow, he still is. Im going to add some more NHL centers that are better then Hodgson, he's probably the 35th best skill center in the NHL, and on almost all the good teams he wouldn't crack top 6 center because most good teams have 2 skill centers better then him, im not talking about 2 way centers because he's not a very good defensive player, otherwise id add Berglund, Bolland, Bozak, etc to the list of better centers:

Joe Pavalski
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
Valteri Filpula
Mike Richards
Jordan Staal
Sam Gagner
Matt Duchesne
Nathan McKinnon
Brad Marchand
Jonathan Huberdeau
Kyle Turris
Mikko Koivu
Sean Couturier
Danny Briere
Vincient LeCavalier
To say Hodgson is in a group with the top 15 centers in the NHL is silly, you must be joking.
- gunner2233

I was about agree with everything posted here but then you ranked Filppula ahead of Hodgson. Otherwise I can agree but it's worth pointing out he's only 23.

I was about agree with everything posted here but then you ranked Filppula ahead of Hodgson. Otherwise I can agree but it's worth pointing out he's only 23.
- Sabresfan-365

Well then it's also worth pointing out that about half the people on that list are younger or the same age

I've tried teaching the sabres fans about the Avs, they never understand
- MattDuchene9

hahaha



I love this guy, he knows nothing

Way to put Nate Mackinnon on a list of better NHL C's than Hodgson. The kid hasn't even played a shift in his first camp yet.