The goalies you mentioned are irrelevant, they were not on Schneiders level at the time of trade. Edmonton offered a 1st, 2nd, and top prospect for Schneider. The Canucks got fleeced on that one because Gillis screwed up the situation and didn't want to trade Schneider inter division.
- benny948

that is 100% a lie and media speculation and Gillis confirmed he did not get a better offer from Edmonton

I never once said he was worthless, you're the one making things up. Getting Hemsky and Dubnyk is not nothing, I said he has as much value as Schneider, if not a little more...maybe you're not clear with what Hemsky can bring to a team, but I have seen him play for several years and he would be a solid addition to a team, but the Oilers are trying to go a little younger than he is, he would help a contender...I don't think Hemsky to Sabres makes much sense but IF he were to go there, i think Dubnyk and Hemsky should be more than enough to get it done
- annoyance_101

You were on EK's board striking down every Sabres fan who said Miller is worth more than Hemsky. That is certainly installing a mentality that Miller has little value.

that is 100% a lie and media speculation and Gillis confirmed he did not get a better offer from Edmonton
- annoyance_101

Than why were the Oilers brass at the draft pissed when Schneider got traded to NJ? They obviously had a better offer than the Devils.

troll_101 causing a stir? what else is new.
- Jurco_28

Than why were the Oilers brass at the draft pissed when Schneider got traded to NJ? They obviously had a better offer than the Devils.
- benny948

No, they were TOLD that a 1st + 2nd + Paajarvi or whatever would be the price, so they were shocked that Gillis would charge such a premium. Not at all the same thing.

Sorry, multiple sources (many impartial) have shot down that MacT offered Gillis anything. They may have been informed by Gillis that that would be the price.

Than why were the Oilers brass at the draft pissed when Schneider got traded to NJ? They obviously had a better offer than the Devils.
- benny948

Can you prove that? that is media speculation that you are falling for

You were on EK's board striking down every Sabres fan who said Miller is worth more than Hemsky. That is certainly installing a mentality that Miller has little value.
- benny948

Thats your opinion...I've never once said he has no value, re-read what I actually said instead of making things up in your own mind

No, they were TOLD that a 1st + 2nd + Paajarvi or whatever would be the price, so they were shocked that Gillis would charge such a premium. Not at all the same thing.

Sorry, multiple sources (many impartial) have shot down that MacT offered Gillis anything. They may have been informed by Gillis that that would be the price.
- Morris

Depends on the source, it makes sense that the Oilers were trying to make a splash at the draft. After all, MacT said that he would make major roster changes. The Oiler's table did not look pleased when the trade was announced, and IMO that is the reason.

I would rather have the 9th pick than Hemsky and Dubnyk.
- Herzeleid

Well if anyone actually read what I said, I also said that Miller could go for exactly what Schneider went for, he's not worth much more if any more than that

Can you prove that? that is media speculation that you are falling for
- annoyance_101

I don't have to prove anything, the Oilers clearly had a better offer. You can't deny everything that the media says, there were so many reports indicating that the Oilers made a very significant offer.

Thats your opinion...I've never once said he has no value, re-read what I actually said instead of making things up in your own mind
- annoyance_101

I didn't make anything up, you are the one that made the comments.

I don't have to prove anything, the Oilers clearly had a better offer.
- benny948

Can you prove that? There is speculation that Gillis is the one that wanted that package, you cannot prove that MacT is the one that offered that for him...

I didn't make anything up, you are the one that made the comments.
- benny948

Find where I said "he has no value" please go ahead

Can you prove that? There is speculation that Gillis is the one that wanted that package, you cannot prove that MacT is the one that offered that for him...
- annoyance_101

Trolloll. Let me guess, can I prove that?

I don't have to prove anything, the Oilers clearly had a better offer.
- benny948

How do you mean? Remember that credible sources indicated that that was what Gillis pitched, not MacTavish.

How do you mean? Remember that credible sources indicated that that was what Gillis pitched, not MacTavish.
- Morris

Well if anyone actually read what I said, I also said that Miller could go for exactly what Schneider went for, he's not worth much more if any more than that
- annoyance_101

and I said i would rather have what Schneider got than Hemsky and Dubnyk.

Trolloll. Let me guess, can I prove that?
- benny948

Just because you cant come to terms with the fact that your goaltender is not worth a kings ransom isn't my fault...its the truth...he'd go for a 1st...or Hemsky and Dubnyk at most...

and I said i would rather have what Schneider got than Hemsky and Dubnyk.
- Herzeleid

So? Good for you I'm glad we're agreeing that we both said what we both said now

Just because you cant come to terms with the fact that your goaltender is not worth a kings ransom isn't my fault...its the truth...he'd go for a 1st...or Hemsky and Dubnyk at most...
- annoyance_101

how do u know this?

where did you get your crystal ball? walmart?

Just because you cant come to terms with the fact that your goaltender is not worth a kings ransom isn't my fault...its the truth...he'd go for a 1st...or Hemsky and Dubnyk at most...
- annoyance_101

Never mentioned that Miller was worth a kings ransom, I said that he was worth a little more than Hemsky. Way to stuff words into my mouth. Come to terms with the fact that miller has value. Some Canuck fans can't get over the fact that some goaltenders in need of a scenery change have value.

how do u know this?

where did you get your crystal ball? walmart?


- Jurco_28

No? I've watched what goaltenders have gone for in the past 10 years and even listed a lot of them...Can you show me where a goaltender was traded for what Sabres fans currently think he's worth?

Than why were the Oilers brass at the draft pissed when Schneider got traded to NJ? They obviously had a better offer than the Devils.
- benny948

pissed? says who?
when? link?

rumour at best and total fabrication at worst.

the only thing we do know for sure is what gillis said. which was that the 9th was the best offer they received.
ANYTHING else is conjecture

Never mentioned that Miller was worth a kings ransom, I said that he was worth a little more than Hemsky. Way to stuff words into my mouth.
- benny948

and I agreed, he is worth a "little more than Hemsky" HENCE WHY I SAID HEMSKY AND DUBNYK

pissed? says who?
when? link?

rumour at best and total fabrication at worst.

the only thing we do know for sure is what gilli said.
ANYTHING else is conjecture
- hugefemale dog77

Oh god its a sad day when I've had to say that Oilers fans are actually using their brains today