I'd gladly take Miller in EDM. It'd obviously cost more than Hemsky, but BUF fans have to realize he's a rental right now Coming off of an average year. Cap hit of 6.25M.

Doesn't have the same value he had in '09.
- TheNugeIsHuge

YOU'RE POINT IS CONPLETELY IRREVELANT

1) Oilers have tons of cap room, so that irrelevant

2) if there was a team interested where his cap# played a factor, the Sabres have shown in previous seasons (multiple times) that we will pay salary or take back a contract the other team wants to get rid of


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I took the bait. Hook line and sinker.
- Stripes77

me too

you would not have him in nets over what u got now?
- French-Connection

Considering that...

- Dubnyk put up better numbers playing behind a crappier defense
- Dubnyk is waaaay cheaper
- Dubnyk does not have attitude problems

No, I would not have him in net over what we have now (Dubnyk -- a superior goalie/person) <--- Argue that all you want... Get back to me at the end of next season, and we'll talk about who once again had a better season in net.

Miller to the Oilers makes sense...
Puts them in they playoffs, and possibly a contender if the kids grow up fast

Hemsky to Buffalo makes no sense
We're rebuilding... Young players/prospects and draft picks are what we'd be looking for

This was a dumb blog
But I guess it got some hits
- jdfitz77

EDM's SV% was just 7th in the league. Tied with VAN, DET, and TO. How will Miller put them in the playoffs?

if Horcoff can get a depth Dman and a pick, Hemsky doesn't have "negative value".

Not like Miller's worth a lot. Coming off of three pretty average seasons. His salary worth 10% of the cap this year. 1 year from UFA.
- TheNugeIsHuge

Worth a lot more than Hemsky. And what was the pick that came along with the depth dman, a 6th or 7th rounder? I think it is fair to say that Hemsky is worth around Horcoff's value, which is a lot less than Miller. If the Sabres wanted to trade Miller immediately, they could get a 2nd and a mid-grade prospect. I suspect Darcy is trying to make a bigger deal evolving around other pieces, with Miller as a throw-in to even cap. Meanwhile, the Oilers are having a hard time finding suitors for Hemsky, let alone a decent offer.

YOU'RE POINT IS CONPLETELY IRREVELANT

1) Oilers have tons of cap room, so that irrelevant

2) if there was a team interested where his cap# played a factor, the Sabres have shown in previous seasons (multiple times) that we will pay salary or take back a contract the other team wants to get rid of


respond
- jdfitz77

No its not irrelevent, salary is very important, length of contract is very important, fit in the dressing room is important. Not just whether or not it will fit cap wise.

Considering that...

- Dubnyk put up better numbers playing behind a crappier defense
- Dubnyk is waaaay cheaper
- Dubnyk does not have attitude problems

No, I would not have him in net over what we have now (Dubnyk -- a superior goalie/person)
- laughs2907

Crappier D? That's debatable. Your forwards have the puck more ours are terrible. But calling Dubnyk a superior goalie and person? I love how people think he has attitude problems. Miller hates losing it's plain and simple. He speaks his mind when asked questions and the media blasts him. Yeah a huge attitude problem. Not to mention the millions of dollars he raises every year. Typical response.

EDM's SV% was just 7th in the league. Tied with VAN, DET, and TO. How will Miller put them in the playoffs?
- TheNugeIsHuge

It's amazing how people many people think Dubnyk was the problem last season I wish those people would do a little research instead of talking out of their ass.

I agree completely. I really like Miller but I just don't see goalies in general having the same value as they used to.

10 years ago a goalie was drafted 1st overall. 10 years later people get crucified for even thinking about drafting a goalie in the 1st round. Times have changed, management teams seem to put more stock into positional players than goaltenders. At this point 80% seem interchangeable leading to the same result standings wise.
- Sabresfan-365

if you're able to turn a 5th rounder into a top 10 pick or someone that can help you for a few years...you do that...so that proves that even back when Miller was drafted goaltenders were drafted far later...I think a goaltender will have to come Buffalos way, even if its viewed as a project, maybe a better deal for the Av's would be Myers and Miller for Stastny and Varlomov and a 2nd or something, Millers just not going to get most Sabre fans what they think he's worth...Myers seems to need a fresh start...Even if Stastny is taking up ice time from younger guys, he's not old, and he is one of the most defensively sound forwards and smart forwards in the league...so I would think about building around Stastny and Hodgson as your 2nd line centre...it is also possible for Centres to play wing...which I hope happens here in Vancouver at one point down the line considering now they have so much C depth

YOU'RE POINT IS CONPLETELY IRREVELANT

1) Oilers have tons of cap room, so that irrelevant

2) if there was a team interested where his cap# played a factor, the Sabres have shown in previous seasons (multiple times) that we will pay salary or take back a contract the other team wants to get rid of


respond
- jdfitz77

what's EDM cap space at right now? 1.35M. How is that tons?

If EDM dealt Hemsky for Miller straight up, they'd be 100K under

It's amazing how people many people think Dubnyk was the problem last season I wish those people would do a little research instead of talking out of their ass.
- laughs2907

Not the problem, but he wasn't the solution either, he needed better defense in front of him, that coaching job was just rancid for both Colorado and Edmonton last year...I fear the coaching change will make the biggest difference in both those places

Crappier D? That's debatable. Your forwards have the puck more ours are terrible. But calling Dubnyk a superior goalie and person? I love how people think he has attitude problems. Miller hates losing it's plain and simple. He speaks his mind when asked questions and the media blasts him. Yeah a huge attitude problem. Not to mention the millions of dollars he raises every year. Typical response.
- Stripes77

Miller is a big baby. He clearly showed that during last year's strike. But whatever you want to believe is fine with me... Miller is a great person to have in the locker room, and he's never a little b1tch. There... Better?

Crappier D? That's debatable. Your forwards have the puck more ours are terrible. But calling Dubnyk a superior goalie and person? I love how people think he has attitude problems. Miller hates losing it's plain and simple. He speaks his mind when asked questions and the media blasts him. Yeah a huge attitude problem. Not to mention the millions of dollars he raises every year. Typical response.
- Stripes77

I agree, it is not like Miller is being an @#$ with nothing to show for it. When Miller complains after a loss, he does it constructively with reasoning to show. It contributes to a competitive locker room. Its not like he pulls a Sean Avery and vents frustration on his personal life.

EDM's SV% was just 7th in the league. Tied with VAN, DET, and TO. How will Miller put them in the playoffs?
- TheNugeIsHuge

For the last time Ryan Millers even strength save percentage was better than Dubs. The Sabres were awful shirt handed last year. Yes put Miller on the Oilers they probably do make the playoffs

Miller to the Oilers makes sense...
Puts them in they playoffs, and possibly a contender if the kids grow up fast

Hemsky to Buffalo makes no sense
We're rebuilding... Young players/prospects and draft picks are what we'd be looking for

This was a dumb blog
But I guess it got some hits
- jdfitz77

I agree about rebuilding, but you wouldnt get young players/prospects AND draft picks for miller, you'd get one or the other...a young player/prospect or a good 1st

Considering that...

- Dubnyk put up better numbers playing behind a crappier defense
- Dubnyk is waaaay cheaper
- Dubnyk does not have attitude problems

No, I would not have him in net over what we have now (Dubnyk -- a superior goalie/person)
- laughs2907

Miller does NOT have this bad attitude like ur saying, he was entitled to his 1st soft year of his solid career..and Dubnyk has a long way to go to be compared to Miller..not saying the Oilers are not on the verge of being a powerhouse without Miller by any stretch but a veteran presence in a playoff push, or a deep playoff run is where you would see with Miller he is worth every penny, Dubynk having good numbers on a non playoff team is no proof at all how he would be under real pressure..Miller showed even in his rookie year he is up to that kind of challenge, hell Biron did that for years here

Not the problem, but he wasn't the solution either, he needed better defense in front of him, that coaching job was just rancid for both Colorado and Edmonton last year...I fear the coaching change will make the biggest difference in both those places
- annoyance_101

I agree with everything but the bolded. I don't think there was a goalie in the league last year that would have made the Oilers a playoff team. Agreed with the defence/coaching stuff you said though.

Miller is a big baby. He clearly showed that during last year's strike. But whatever you want to believe is fine with me... Miller is a great person to have in the locker room, and he's never a little b1tch. There... Better?
- laughs2907

Every NHL player was a b!tch during the lockout. You just go what the media reports. He is by no reason the cancer in the locker room. But whatever you want to use as your argument

It's amazing how people many people think Dubnyk was the problem last season I wish those people would do a little research instead of talking out of their ass.
- laughs2907

again its not all about numbers...I never said Miller is the answer either but the Oilers will not win with Dubnyk. He always lets if a soft one at the worst possible time when the pressure is on. He plays decent in 4-2 losses when the team is badly outplayed but in a one goal game he often blows it.

My opinion

I agree, it is not like Miller is being an @#$ with nothing to show for it. When Miller complains after a loss, he does it constructively with reasoning to show. It contributes to a competitive locker room. Its not like he pulls a Sean Avery and vents frustration on his personal life.
- benny948

he's always been a team guy, when fans think otherwise I just smh

For the last time Ryan Millers even strength save percentage was better than Dubs. The Sabres were awful shirt handed last year. Yes put Miller on the Oilers they probably do make the playoffs
- Stripes77

Why in the hell would the Oilers want a rental? No matter how good you think he is.

Horrible deal Hemsky stinks, but it must be true if it came from Hockey Buzz.

Miller does NOT have this bad attitude like ur saying, he was entitled to his 1st soft year of his solid career..and Dubnyk has a long way to go to be compared to Miller..not saying the Oilers are not on the verge of being a powerhouse without Miller by any stretch but a veteran presence in a playoff push, or a deep playoff run is where you would see with Miller he is worth every penny, Dubynk having good numbers on a non playoff team is no proof at all how he would be under real pressure..Miller showed even in his rookie year he is up to that kind of challenge, hell Biron did that for years here
- French-Connection

We'll agree to disagree on the attitude thing...

I agree with the rest. Obviously Dubnyk would be a question mark when the pressure is on (playoffs)... We'll see how he holds up when the Oilers get there.

again its not all about numbers...I never said Miller is the answer either but the Oilers will not win with Dubnyk. He always lets if a soft one at the worst possible time when the pressure is on. He plays decent in 4-2 losses when the team is badly outplayed but in a one goal game he often blows it.

My opinion
- flashfire

yes, he'll let in a soft one after saving a miraculous one. Yes it is all about numbers. And if you don't want it to be about numbers, I'll trust the guy who watches every oiler game every year. Not a flames fan or buffalo fan

he's always been a team guy, when fans think otherwise I just smh
- French-Connection

I have heard it from several people with the Sabres (I have some connections to players and employees) the real cancer in the lockerroom is someone else mentioned a few times in this blog and if he was gone Briere would be back here this season