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benny948
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.15.2013

Aug 3 @ 1:51 PM ET


also, if he's saying an odd prospect at each end. It doesn't mean EDM's likely top 10 pick and a top prospect.

Funny blog. Outraging BUF fans

- TheNugeIsHuge

Hemsky has negative trade value, the blog is worth outrage. It would have to be a decent forward prospect from Edmonton and a D prospect from Buf, I just don't see any other means of achieving team needs.
French-Connection
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 3 @ 1:51 PM ET
If he is so great at winning trades then why doesn't your team keep winning? I mean obviously he is great at drafting as well.
- Marshalle

well this scenario speaks volumes about him as a GM, we are in a position here where we are losing value for Miller cause he waited to long to try and pull the trigger..overall Darcy has made some great deals..another example, I want to see if this Hodgson RFA thing gets resolved, cause so far its at a standstill and really it shouldn't be..get him signed already
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 3 @ 1:52 PM ET
If he is so great at winning trades then why doesn't your team keep winning? I mean obviously he is great at drafting as well.
- Marshalle


Gillis is a prime example of trades (other than the Ballard trade) he got booth for garbage, got ehrhoff for a guy playing overseas...Roy for very little...but his drafting so far has yet to pan out, his contracts...well his contracts...speak for themselves (luongo) a guy can be good at trades, and terrible at everything else to keep a team from seriously competing...
Marshalle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: oshawa, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Aug 3 @ 1:53 PM ET
well this scenario speaks volumes about him as a GM, we are in a position here where we are losing value for Miller cause he waited to long to try and pull the trigger..overall Darcy has made some great deals..another example, I want to see if this Hodgson RFA thing gets resolved, cause so far its at a standstill and really it shouldn't be..get him signed already
- French-Connection

This scenario is more than likely a fantasy, not reality.
French-Connection
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 3 @ 1:54 PM ET
This scenario is more than likely a fantasy, not reality.
- Marshalle

which one?
Marshalle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: oshawa, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Aug 3 @ 1:55 PM ET
which one?
- French-Connection

the entire blog.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 3 @ 1:57 PM ET
well this scenario speaks volumes about him as a GM, we are in a position here where we are losing value for Miller cause he waited to long to try and pull the trigger..overall Darcy has made some great deals..another example, I want to see if this Hodgson RFA thing gets resolved, cause so far its at a standstill and really it shouldn't be..get him signed already
- French-Connection


There may not have been a good deal to be made. If the best deal is a bad deal by your standards then would you have been happy with a trade?
quinnjj
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 06.05.2012

Aug 3 @ 1:58 PM ET
Obviously this is coming from a Canucks fan but what exactly has Schneider done to warrant all of this love? He has yet to prove he can be the work horse Miller is. Granted he has a huge upside but I never understood all the love for him. Miller gets more than Hemsky and like I said before there is no way Miller straight up for Hemsky makes sense for the Sabres at all
- Stripes77


Agreed.

They are both overpaid but Miller is a proven commodity.

Hemsky is barely hanging on this league...he's too soft and will be playing in Europe soon enough. There is no doubt to his skill level but he's not cut out for the NHL game.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 3 @ 1:58 PM ET
No, this is coming from a hockey fan in general...I grew up watching the Canucks, and I've made a point to watch what other teams have done, so what miller has played more games...in recent years, he hasn't played up to snuff to warrant a kings ransom for him, he has been playing sub par, GM's are not going to look at what Schneider got traded for and then go...hmm maybe we'll trade MORE for a guy that has played worse than him in the past few years...? Contract aside, Luongo is around Millers age and Luongo has played better than Miller in the past few years also...but ok, keep thinking that you can get a kings ransom for him just because i'm a canucks fan (which means i have watched the goaltender i am commenting on and was pissed that he's now gone)

Have fun playing Schneider an insane amount now btw When he beats Miller (if he is not moved before the season starts) Maybe you'll start seeing what others have seen for years over here

- annoyance_101



So you don't take the team in front of these goalies as factors? Lets face it Millers even strength save percentage is the same as your beloved Schnieder with a crappy Sabres team in front of him. You obviously don't understand other factors besides simple stats which can easily be over judged. Schnieder on a bad New Jersey team is not nearly as good as Schneider on a stacked Canucks team.
benny948
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.15.2013

Aug 3 @ 2:00 PM ET
So you don't take the team in front of these goalies as factors? Lets face it Millers even strength save percentage is the same as your beloved Schnieder with a crappy Sabres team in front of him. You obviously don't understand other factors besides simple stats which can easily be over judged. Schnieder on a bad New Jersey team is not nearly as good as Schneider on a stacked Canucks team.
- Stripes77

This
AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.14.2010

Aug 3 @ 2:00 PM ET
So according to Ek Andersson doesn't get consideration for the USA starting role?

I'd say if anyone can give Quick a run it's Andersson
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 3 @ 2:02 PM ET
So you don't take the team in front of these goalies as factors? Lets face it Millers even strength save percentage is the same as your beloved Schnieder with a crappy Sabres team in front of him. You obviously don't understand other factors besides simple stats which can easily be over judged. Schnieder on a bad New Jersey team is not nearly as good as Schneider on a stacked Canucks team.
- Stripes77


Well we'll see about that...are you forgetting that the devils went to the finals the year before last? yes they have lost a poop ton in the past 2 years but none the less...Parise shouldnt have made such a difference...coachings going to play a big role in to it now...so many odd things have happened in that division i dont know how things will play out honestly...and just because you havent seen schneider play enough, you dont have to act like miller is the best goaltender in the league, he never has been...
quinnjj
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 06.05.2012

Aug 3 @ 2:02 PM ET
I see a Vanek for Statsny trade in Buffalo's future as well. Colorado would have to include another piece to complete the trade.
benny948
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.15.2013

Aug 3 @ 2:02 PM ET
So according to Ek Andersson doesn't get consideration for the USA starting role?

I'd say if anyone can give Quick a run it's Andersson

- AngryWhiteMale

He has do do well and prove himself as a consistent netminder this year. Before last year, Anderson was quite average if not slightly below the mean.
hankthetank
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I went to school for journalism. Our job was to be a mirror. We were to be the watchdog for society.
Joined: 07.03.2007

Aug 3 @ 2:03 PM ET
So according to Ek Andersson doesn't get consideration for the USA starting role?

I'd say if anyone can give Quick a run it's Andersson

- AngryWhiteMale


Don't question Ek! His track record shows that he's always right.
haymac
Edmonton Oilers
Location: NWT
Joined: 09.17.2011

Aug 3 @ 2:04 PM ET
BUF fans seem to overvalue miller, hes an amazing goalie but think about this... hes going to leave Buf after next year, and then the sabres get nothing in return, i think that hemsky and a 2nd or even 3rd is fair, but hemsky a 1st AND a prospect or another nhl ready player??!! thats too much for a goalie whos going to test UFA the second he has a chance.
- digitalbath

Agreed---Oil can't give a first. I don't see this happening as Miller would probably want to stay in the East, at least, and go to a team with a better D-core to help pump his #s this year.
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 3 @ 2:04 PM ET
So according to Ek Andersson doesn't get consideration for the USA starting role?

I'd say if anyone can give Quick a run it's Andersson

- AngryWhiteMale


If he can stay healthy maybe...that wasn't his strong suit last year...its only a 2 week tournament, they may be looking for someone who has been able to play a boat load of games...its better to rely on a guy that you know will be there...its even possible they are waiting to see if he'll be fully healthy before adding him late...
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Aug 3 @ 2:05 PM ET
I see a Vanek for Statsny trade in Buffalo's future as well. Colorado would have to include another piece to complete the trade.
- quinnjj


That would be completely pointless. The whole point in bringing in stastny would have been to have him play with Vanek. At this point I'd rather Hodgson than 1 year of Stastny at 6.6 mil.

Colorado's main focus should be on defense anyways, adding Vanek doesn't really address their key issues.
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 3 @ 2:05 PM ET
I see a Vanek for Statsny trade in Buffalo's future as well. Colorado would have to include another piece to complete the trade.
- quinnjj


I would love to see Vanek in the west...he'll be on the IR so often he'd be useless...
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 3 @ 2:06 PM ET
Well we'll see about that...are you forgetting that the devils went to the finals the year before last? yes they have lost a poop ton in the past 2 years but none the less...Parise shouldnt have made such a difference...coachings going to play a big role in to it now...so many odd things have happened in that division i dont know how things will play out honestly...and just because you havent seen schneider play enough, you dont have to act like miller is the best goaltender in the league, he never has been...
- annoyance_101


2 years ago and who is no longer Parise Clarkson Kovi. That's a huge loss right there. Their 3 highest point producers.

And I don't think miller is the greatest. Never even close to saying that but saying Miller for Hemsky straight up is outrageous. Miller is an above average goalie on a terrible team. He gets hung out to dry more than my wives unmentionables. Miller on your Canuck team beats Boston in the finals IMO
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Aug 3 @ 2:06 PM ET
Agreed---Oil can't give a first. I don't see this happening as Miller would probably want to stay in the East, at least, and go to a team with a better D-core to help pump his #s this year.
- haymac



Almost every single report that's ever been published about him and trade rumours mentions his desire to got out west (in a perfect world California).

That being said, I still don't see Miller to the Oilers happening.
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 3 @ 2:07 PM ET
That would be completely pointless. The whole point in bringing in stastny would have been to have him play with Vanek. At this point I'd rather Hodgson than 1 year of Stastny at 6.6 mil.

Colorado's main focus should be on defense anyways, adding Vanek doesn't really address their key issues.

- Sabresfan-365


Maybe colorado wants miller...Stastny for Miller...at the very least they'd get more out of Stastny than they would of Hemsky...Colorado isn't rock solid in goal either...maybe add Varlomov
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Aug 3 @ 2:07 PM ET
I would love to see Vanek in the west...he'll be on the IR so often he'd be useless...
- annoyance_101


Not even sure how to respond to this
French-Connection
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 3 @ 2:08 PM ET
the entire blog.
- Marshalle

agreed
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Aug 3 @ 2:09 PM ET
You hate Buffalo for suggesting they want Hemsky...
- jochfr


More like he hates the Oilers for suggesting they want that man-child, Miller.
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