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mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Aug 3 @ 12:59 PM ET
I think Quick, Howard and Schneider may all be above Miller on the Team USA depth chart at this point.
- PhillySportsGuy

Quick with Miller backup for team USA
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Aug 3 @ 12:59 PM ET
Lets agree that this deal will absolutely never happen... The 1st is a non-starter. For Mac T to use a first rounder for anything but a top pairing D would be travesty.
- OilDerek


I can agree with that... The defense is awful.
Not that Buffalos was much better last year.
Jacob582
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.06.2012

Aug 3 @ 12:59 PM ET
Yakupov and McNabb
French-Connection
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 3 @ 1:00 PM ET
Lets agree that this deal will absolutely never happen... The 1st is a non-starter. For Mac T to use a first rounder for anything but a top pairing D would be travesty.
- OilDerek

agreed
if Darcy had any brains he would have really tried to push for this trade last year much harder..last thing I want is to see Miller gone for cheap and have Enroth as number 1
French-Connection
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 3 @ 1:01 PM ET
I can agree with that... The defense is awful.
Not that Buffalos was much better last year.

- jochfr

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Oilers42
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 06.14.2013

Aug 3 @ 1:01 PM ET
Yakupov and McNabb
- Jacob582

Haha I know it's a joke though
digitalbath
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Detroit, MI
Joined: 07.09.2011

Aug 3 @ 1:02 PM ET
BUF fans seem to overvalue miller, hes an amazing goalie but think about this... hes going to leave Buf after next year, and then the sabres get nothing in return, i think that hemsky and a 2nd or even 3rd is fair, but hemsky a 1st AND a prospect or another nhl ready player??!! thats too much for a goalie whos going to test UFA the second he has a chance.
rubberduckies
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Huntington beach, CA
Joined: 02.21.2008

Aug 3 @ 1:02 PM ET
never happen ...plus 19 will walk after this season guraanted
OilDerek
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 08.26.2007

Aug 3 @ 1:02 PM ET
its cool, I hope the Oilers stick with basically the same team...get hyped up all summer and into fall. Its makes it more satisfying when they tank
- flashfire


Who is hyping them? Not me... I'm not saying that Miller is horrible. I am not saying Ales is fair value... What I am saying is that Miller does not solve any immediate need... Dubnyk, while largely in-proven is not the Oils most glaring weakness.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Aug 3 @ 1:02 PM ET
agreed
if Darcy had any brains he would have really tried to push for this trade last year much harder..last thing I want is to see Miller gone for cheap and have Enroth as number 1

- French-Connection

I think this will be another July 1st 2007 fiasco....
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 3 @ 1:02 PM ET
agreed
if Darcy had any brains he would have really tried to push for this trade last year much harder..last thing I want is to see Miller gone for cheap and have Enroth as number 1

- French-Connection


Do the Sabers have any goalies in the system other than Enroth? Younger guys who may not be ready for a year or two? Or is it just Enorth's or a FA if Miller is traded?
French-Connection
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 3 @ 1:03 PM ET
I like Miller, and think he's an excellent goalie, but here in Buffalo ppl def overvalue him. I think the oilers need to shore up their blue line, and team defense in general. Miller would help them for sure, but I wouldn't give up what some ppl are suggesting. On the other hand, Miller for Hemsky doesn't sit right with me as a Sabre's fan. I like Hemsky, but I can't help be reminded of Connolly. I'm not sure what's going to happen with Miller but Regier needs to make a decision soon. I don't think they'll be as much deadline interest in him as ppl expect.
- tomt8391

honestly, I really think he will be gone before the deadline..but then again, we are talking about Darcy
flashfire
Joined: 10.02.2006

Aug 3 @ 1:04 PM ET
Who is hyping them? Not me... I'm not saying that Miller is horrible. I am not saying Ales is fair value... What I am saying is that Miller does not solve any immediate need... Dubnyk, while largely in-proven is not the Oils most glaring weakness.
- OilDerek


I live near Edmonton and they seem to be getting the usual summer treatment..."on the verge of an amazing season, darkhorse for the cup" these guys are delusional sorry for lumping you in every Oilers fan I know and most of the media does this every summer
Al Hacker
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Stony Plain, AB
Joined: 02.10.2007

Aug 3 @ 1:05 PM ET
Miller is awesome despite last year, look at his numbers of his career..2 years ago down the stretch when we almost got in he was the hottest goalie in the league..again..so last year he lost his heart for the first time, hell he's entitled, he is the 2nd best goalie in our history and no way we let him just go for nothing
- French-Connection


Second best goalie in the history of a team that to date has won SFA? I would rather stick with Dubnyk and our first next year every day of the week than 1 year of Miller. I'm sure hoping MacT thinks the same way, the trade you are talking about is absolutely bad for the Oilers.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Aug 3 @ 1:06 PM ET
Do the Sabers have any goalies in the system other than Enroth? Younger guys who may not be ready for a year or two? Or is it just Enorth's or a FA if Miller is traded?
- PhillySportsGuy

Hackett...
Jacob582
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.06.2012

Aug 3 @ 1:06 PM ET
Haha I know it's a joke though
- Oilers42

Well I'm not giving up Pysyk..........
Marshalle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: oshawa, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Aug 3 @ 1:06 PM ET
well you might be the only fan in the world in Edmonton that thinks Dubnyk can help you more than Ryan Miller, dont get me wrong, you guys are on the verge of an amazing season IMO..but for us to give away a goalie that can lead a team to a stanley cup would be plain stupid of us to do for nothing..everybody in the NHL world knows the Oilers want to get rid of Hemsky badly..and I guarantee we will get a 1st rounder in the deal for Miller, thats a no brainer..hell look what we got for Pomer from Minny
- French-Connection

OilDerek
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 08.26.2007

Aug 3 @ 1:07 PM ET
I live near Edmonton and they seem to be getting the usual summer treatment..."on the verge of an amazing season, darkhorse for the cup" these guys are delusional sorry for lumping you in every Oilers fan I know and most of the media does this every summer
- flashfire


Understood... I am cautiously optimistic. Hoping for playoff hockey next season. A lot of planets have to align for the Oilers to squeak in... As with everything, only time will tell.
CaptPantalones
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The Optimistic side, NY
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 3 @ 1:08 PM ET
I agree with you. IMO Hemsky and prospects are not the same worth as miller. Not even close.
- LizzyJo


Unfortunately thats what Millers value has come down to now. Darcy's failure to get him moved at the draft caused other teams to fill the voids in other ways, thus effectively killing Millers potential market to 2 teams: Edmonton )even if I dont agree with it and dont see it happening) and St. Louis.

While Hemsky isnt exactly what wed all be looking for (older player, pending UFA), if the prospect(s) are right, this could be the most realistic deal until the season starts. If this deal can net us Hemsky (who I have always wondered how good he could be with Vanek) and a solid prospect (Marincin, Hamilton, Zharkov), id be OK
French-Connection
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 3 @ 1:08 PM ET
Do the Sabers have any goalies in the system other than Enroth? Younger guys who may not be ready for a year or two? Or is it just Enorth's or a FA if Miller is traded?
- PhillySportsGuy

Hackett, Knapp and Makarov..most likely a toss up here with Hackett as the favorite I guess..I am more excited about Makarov..but Enroth has shown stong stretches of course he would be number 1
EnrothWeTrust
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 07.23.2013

Aug 3 @ 1:08 PM ET
Do the Sabers have any goalies in the system other than Enroth? Younger guys who may not be ready for a year or two? Or is it just Enorth's or a FA if Miller is traded?
- PhillySportsGuy


We have more than we need, really. It's a logjam in net.
digitalbath
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Detroit, MI
Joined: 07.09.2011

Aug 3 @ 1:08 PM ET
Understood... I am cautiously optimistic. Hoping for playoff hockey next season. A lot of planets have to align for the Oilers to squeak in... As with everything, only time will tell.
- OilDerek



do you think nurse makes an impact this year?
French-Connection
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 3 @ 1:09 PM ET

- Marshalle

flashfire
Joined: 10.02.2006

Aug 3 @ 1:09 PM ET
The Oilers will eventually have to make a bold move though...they have the most expensive forward group of any cap compliant team. With the RNH deal next year and Yak the year after they need to do something to have a more balanced team.

Need some size in the pacific division...with LA, Anaheim, Vancouver, SJ, its gonna be tough to take a spot from one of those teams
OilDerek
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 08.26.2007

Aug 3 @ 1:10 PM ET
Unfortunately thats what Millers value has come down to now. Darcy's failure to get him moved at the draft caused other teams to fill the voids in other ways, thus effectively killing Millers potential market to 2 teams: Edmonton )even if I dont agree with it and dont see it happening) and St. Louis.

While Hemsky isnt exactly what wed all be looking for (older player, pending UFA), if the prospect(s) are right, this could be the most realistic deal until the season starts. If this deal can net us Hemsky (who I have always wondered how good he could be with Vanek) and a solid prospect (Marincin, Hamilton, Zharkov), id be OK

- CaptPantalones


Hamilton?... Sure... Zharkov?... Why not? Marincin for one year of Miller... Not a good deal for the Oil IMO.
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