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StargateSG1
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Buffalo Grove, IL
Joined: 03.07.2013

Aug 4 @ 5:55 PM ET
yes it will..did u see what we got for Pomer??..not sure how Darcy does it but he always manages to ripoff teams in trades..and that kind of return for Miller is very possible, I was being generous
- French-Connection


Pominville was an aging goalie?

Minny's GM is a nut case. Still wondering how he wasn't fired yet.
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 4 @ 5:57 PM ET
Except Calgary.
- doon


Well true lol we can leave one team in the west to really rot for a long time...even though I don't have anything against Calgary fans...I don't know why I just enjoy watching that train wreck...
doon
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Spruce Grove, AB
Joined: 08.27.2008

Aug 4 @ 5:57 PM ET
you watch, I promise you.. a prospect, or current player and a 1st
- French-Connection

Ok. If we can get the Blackhawks first we will trade you that first, Omark and Eager for him.
TomKlassen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 06.10.2013

Aug 4 @ 5:58 PM ET
I'm not saying Dubnyk is great, but he's low priority to upgrade imo. You may believe that teams need to build around a #1 goaltender, but I feel like he's good enough to worry about other things for now.

Again, the suggestion to concentrate on upgrading goaltending because of a softie let in a 6-0 loss or a 6-goal period seems like a misdiagnosis to me.

- Morris

I'm just looking at this objectively. As an Oilers fan I like Dubnyk, but I see games where he is not the single reason we lost, but a very major factor in that.

Did you ever consider the reason we lose by such large scores is because of the goalie? Your counter argument may be that a shutout means the player played poorly, which could be true, but there is a sense of lost hope in the players when your goalie lets in that many goals.
doon
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Spruce Grove, AB
Joined: 08.27.2008

Aug 4 @ 5:59 PM ET
Well true lol we can leave one team in the west to really rot for a long time...even though I don't have anything against Calgary fans...I don't know why I just enjoy watching that train wreck...
- annoyance_101

Lord knows they loved watching the train wreck Oilers for what seems like eternity now. Bastards
French-Connection
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 4 @ 6:00 PM ET
Pominville was an aging goalie?

Minny's GM is a nut case. Still wondering how he wasn't fired yet.

- StargateSG1

agreed, I still dont get how we got that much for Pominville
TomKlassen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 06.10.2013

Aug 4 @ 6:01 PM ET
Well true lol we can leave one team in the west to really rot for a long time...even though I don't have anything against Calgary fans...I don't know why I just enjoy watching that train wreck...
- annoyance_101

Because Feaster is fat and it's funny to watch him fail.
French-Connection
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 4 @ 6:02 PM ET
Ok. If we can get the Blackhawks first we will trade you that first, Omark and Eager for him.
- doon

no thanks you had ur chance
French-Connection
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 4 @ 6:03 PM ET
Because Feaster is fat and it's funny to watch him fail.
- TomKlassen

annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 4 @ 6:03 PM ET
Lord knows they loved watching the train wreck Oilers for what seems like eternity now. Bastards
- doon


I enjoyed it, until the Oilers bottomed out and REALLY started (frank)ing up and now has had so many 1st over all picks placed on that team, its unbearable...if they had traded Yak for the 1st over all in 2015...i'd poop myself
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Aug 4 @ 6:06 PM ET
I'm just looking at this objectively. As an Oilers fan I like Dubnyk, but I see games where he is not the single reason we lost, but a very major factor in that.

Did you ever consider the reason we lose by such large scores is because of the goalie? Your counter argument may be that a shutout means the player played poorly, which could be true, but there is a sense of lost hope in the players when your goalie lets in that many goals.

- TomKlassen

Dubnyk's not doing a poor job just because he can't keep the team's spirits up in games where they're barely mustering 20 shots and allowing 35 (like every game).

It's misplaced aggression to blame Dubnyk for letting in 3 goals when facing 35 shots. Many you feel like the team will never have the confidence they need without an above average, possibily elite goalie that will night in night out put the team on its back but A) I don't think we need that and B) I think we'd go a lot further improving the roster such that we don't need an elite goalie.

If we reach the point where we're allowing 28 shots a night, out-shooting the other team, and losing, then its time to improve goaltending. But the defense sucks, the possession numbers suck, and the effort/maturity sucks, and getting an elite goalie to inspire players doesn't seem like a prudent way to address those problems.
French-Connection
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 4 @ 6:06 PM ET
I enjoyed it, until the Oilers bottomed out and REALLY started (frank)ing up and now has had so many 1st over all picks placed on that team, its unbearable...if they had traded Yak for the 1st over all in 2015...i'd poop myself
- annoyance_101

imagine if this team they're building somehow is still struggling in like 3 years from now to get in??..honestly if they dont get in this year I will be shocked
doon
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Spruce Grove, AB
Joined: 08.27.2008

Aug 4 @ 6:06 PM ET
I enjoyed it, until the Oilers bottomed out and REALLY started (frank)ing up and now has had so many 1st over all picks placed on that team, its unbearable...if they had traded Yak for the 1st over all in 2015...i'd poop myself
- annoyance_101

It's pretty sad when the most hyped up day is draft day. Sick of that poop.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Aug 4 @ 6:07 PM ET
The reason we lose is because we never have the puck and the other team is always shooting it at our net. When we get the puck, we never get it on their net. If you play like this, getting scored on is inevitable.
French-Connection
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 4 @ 6:08 PM ET
The reason we lose is because we never have the puck and the other team is always shooting it at our net. When we get the puck, we never get it on their net. If you play like this, getting scored on is inevitable.
- Morris

doesnt sound promising
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 4 @ 6:08 PM ET
imagine if this team they're building somehow is still struggling in like 3 years from now to get in??..honestly if they dont get in this year I will be shocked
- French-Connection


Eventually they'll not be able to afford their roster, so it will have to be blown up within 3 years if they dont get the coaching that they need...I pray McDavid stays east though...please for the love of god let it be New Jersey
doon
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Spruce Grove, AB
Joined: 08.27.2008

Aug 4 @ 6:09 PM ET
imagine if this team they're building somehow is still struggling in like 3 years from now to get in??..honestly if they dont get in this year I will be shocked
- French-Connection

If they don't make it this year, they will have to rethink the "untouchable list". The scary thing is that it's going to be hard to get in. A lot of good teams to pass.
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 4 @ 6:10 PM ET
It's pretty sad when the most hyped up day is draft day. Sick of that poop.
- doon


I've honestly loved the draft for many years now, same with deadline day and July 1st...I watch the hockey too, but the real fun for me is watching how dumb the contracts are
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Aug 4 @ 6:10 PM ET
agreed, I still dont get how we got that much for Pominville
- French-Connection


I dont think it was "that much" at all. Pominville is severely undervalued by a lot of people.

1st rounder, 2nd rounder and mid-level prospect is pretty good value for a consistent top 6 RW who averages 25G and 65P in a full season and plays in all situations.

I think the added 4th round pick, and retained salary is what landed us Hackett who was a mid 3rd rounder himself and Minny had a couple solid goalie prospects to make him expendable.
French-Connection
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 4 @ 6:11 PM ET
Eventually they'll not be able to afford their roster, so it will have to be blown up within 3 years if they dont get the coaching that they need...I pray McDavid stays east though...please for the love of god let it be New Jersey
- annoyance_101

exactly, they will be paying a lot more eventually before they know it, but just saying..I dont think I have ever seen a team dominate the draft like Edmonton and nothing gets done
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 4 @ 6:11 PM ET
If they don't make it this year, they will have to rethink the "untouchable list". The scary thing is that it's going to be hard to get in. A lot of good teams to pass.
- doon


If they don't get in this year, get McDavid...he WILL fix your problems, I'd trade Nuge straight up for McDavid...I'd start being wary of Nuge being injured in years to come, we'll have to wait and see I suppose on that one
Cheeseballin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 07.05.2011

Aug 4 @ 6:12 PM ET
The reason we lose is because we never have the puck and the other team is always shooting it at our net. When we get the puck, we never get it on their net. If you play like this, getting scored on is inevitable.
- Morris


Maybe you should get better forwards then
doon
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Spruce Grove, AB
Joined: 08.27.2008

Aug 4 @ 6:13 PM ET
If they don't get in this year, get McDavid...he WILL fix your problems, I'd trade Nuge straight up for McDavid...I'd start being wary of Nuge being injured in years to come, we'll have to wait and see I suppose on that one
- annoyance_101

I hear you. He looks fragile out there.
French-Connection
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 4 @ 6:13 PM ET
I dont think it was "that much" at all. Pominville is severely undervalued by a lot of people.

1st rounder, 2nd rounder and mid-level prospect is pretty good value for a consistent top 6 RW who averages 25G and 65P in a full season and plays in all situations.

I think the added 4th round pick, and retained salary is what landed us Hackett who was a mid 3rd rounder himself and Minny had a couple solid goalie prospects to make him expendable.

- theblueandgold

a 1st rounder I would have been happy, he was like the worst captain in our history
French-Connection
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 4 @ 6:15 PM ET
If they don't get in this year, get McDavid...he WILL fix your problems, I'd trade Nuge straight up for McDavid...I'd start being wary of Nuge being injured in years to come, we'll have to wait and see I suppose on that one
- annoyance_101

annoyance, who in their right mind would ever trade McDavid for RNH eventually?????
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