The Buffalo Sabres have been attempting to trade forward Thomas Vanek and goaltender Ryan Miller this offseason but have failed to find the right deals, according to manager Darcy Regier.

Regier provided media availability during the second intermission of the team's prospect scrimmage on Friday and stated that he has been fielding calls on the two players. However, issues have complicated Regier's ability to strike an attractive deal. The biggest one being the declining $64.3 million salary cap in 2013-14.

According to Regier, teams are seeking financial relief in any deal involving Miller or Vanek, via Die by the Blade:

"Any discussion that I have now involves taking back money, moving money...money plays a very big role," said the GM.
The manager also stated that the closer it gets to training camp, the more likely it is that both players start the year on the Sabres roster. This would likely mean a diminished return on any potential deal that could be worked out in the future.

Miller and Vanek are both entering the final years of their contracts and will become unrestricted free agents next summer. Buffalo is heading towards a complete rebuild, which likely doesn't include/interest either Miller or Vanek. The Sabres have openly expressed a desire to reconstruct the roster through the draft. Moving established players like Miller and/or Vanek likely would generate an influx of prospects/selections in future drafts.

This is contingent upon Regier finding a team of interest, which apparently hasn't been easy. The longer it drags on, the fewer games Miller and Vanek have to play with a new team. This is why the return might diminish over time. Of course, the landscape might be different around the trade deadline and the Sabres could still receive a quality return on their expiring assets.

Time will tell whether that is the case.

http://www.sbnation.com/n...-ryan-miller-thomas-vanek

You have no facts to base any of your nonsense on.
I'll just move along now.
- BuffaloHardHat

It's hard for me to not sound like a homer here, but I think most people would take the Oilers youth over the Sabres.

adam
ennis
foligno
grigorenko
hodgson
myers

hall
eberle
nuge
yakupov
gagner
schultz

no facts? holy hell...look at the top 6 young core players for the future of each team...any genius would see the difference
- annoyance_101

You think those are the Sabres prospects?
This going nowhere. You don't have a clue, sorry. You just don't.
Have a nice day.

Hemsky would make a perfect sabre...soft weak and gets hurt a lot. Pick him up so when we play boston him Leino amd Myers can swing their purses at Lucic
- MrSquirrel

way too soon to give up on a potential like Myers, way too soon

Miller and Vanek are both entering the final years of their contracts
- laughs2907

All of that and that one sentence is all that really matters.
That and their NTC's to limited teams.

All of that and that one sentence is all that really matters.
That and their NTC's to limited teams.
- BuffaloHardHat

And yet many Sabres fans believe they'll get a lot for Miller... Hmmmmm

The Buffalo Sabres have been attempting to trade forward Thomas Vanek and goaltender Ryan Miller this offseason but have failed to find the right deals, according to manager Darcy Regier.

Regier provided media availability during the second intermission of the team's prospect scrimmage on Friday and stated that he has been fielding calls on the two players. However, issues have complicated Regier's ability to strike an attractive deal. The biggest one being the declining $64.3 million salary cap in 2013-14.

According to Regier, teams are seeking financial relief in any deal involving Miller or Vanek, via Die by the Blade:

"Any discussion that I have now involves taking back money, moving money...money plays a very big role," said the GM.
The manager also stated that the closer it gets to training camp, the more likely it is that both players start the year on the Sabres roster. This would likely mean a diminished return on any potential deal that could be worked out in the future.

Miller and Vanek are both entering the final years of their contracts and will become unrestricted free agents next summer. Buffalo is heading towards a complete rebuild, which likely doesn't include/interest either Miller or Vanek. The Sabres have openly expressed a desire to reconstruct the roster through the draft. Moving established players like Miller and/or Vanek likely would generate an influx of prospects/selections in future drafts.

This is contingent upon Regier finding a team of interest, which apparently hasn't been easy. The longer it drags on, the fewer games Miller and Vanek have to play with a new team. This is why the return might diminish over time. Of course, the landscape might be different around the trade deadline and the Sabres could still receive a quality return on their expiring assets.

Time will tell whether that is the case.

http://www.sbnation.com/n...-ryan-miller-thomas-vanek
- laughs2907

Vanek will be no problem to move..with the right center he will get 40 goals..ur point? Miller is gonna be harder to move, the Islanders want him badly but I dont think he will accept a trade there, they are most likely on his list

You think those are the Sabres prospects?
This going nowhere. You don't have a clue, sorry. You just don't.
Have a nice day.
- BuffaloHardHat

"Young core players" did I say prospects? holy fack...and you say IIIIII dont have a clue? if I were listing prospects it would get worse for Buffalo fans comparing to Oilers

It's hard for me to not sound like a homer here, but I think most people would take the Oilers youth over the Sabres.
- doon

no kidding, any Sabres fans that argue that are nuts..totally agreed

It's hard for me to not sound like a homer here, but I think most people would take the Oilers youth over the Sabres.
- doon

They would...(said a CANUCKS fan who you know hates the oilers with a passion)

Vanek will be no problem to move..with the right center he will get 40 goals..ur point? Miller is gonna be harder to move, the Islanders want him badly but I dont think he will accept a trade there, they are most likely on his list
- French-Connection

My point is pretty clear... He will not fetch what many of you Sabres fans think he will.

"Young core players" did I say prospects? holy fack...and you say IIIIII dont have a clue? if I were listing prospects it would get worse for Buffalo fans comparing to Oilers
- annoyance_101

no kidding the Oilers got the horses there, its a no brainer

My point is pretty clear... He will not fetch what many of you Sabres fans think he will.
- laughs2907

Miller wont, Vanek will

Miller wont, Vanek will
- French-Connection

Yeah, I'm talking about Miller.

And yet many Sabres fans believe they'll get a lot for Miller... Hmmmmm
- laughs2907

The Sabres will get a handsome enough return for Miller.

no kidding the Oilers got the horses there, its a no brainer
- French-Connection

That is what you get for sucking so long, but its really a no brainer here IMO

My point is pretty clear... He will not fetch what many of you Sabres fans think he will.
- laughs2907

Careful, you saw how that sort of statement turned out for me yesterday

And yet many Sabres fans believe they'll get a lot for Miller... Hmmmmm
- laughs2907

you got to keep onme thing in mind, Darcy has a history of ripping off teams in trades bigtime..as much as I would like to hang the guy sometimes, he has done a great job in that area, also when we lost Briere and Drury as UFA's in 2007 we made the decision to take that risk cause we had a good shot at the cup, so we didnt trade them at the deadline for picks etc..and their were a lot of takers..but we made a decision to try to wiun it all instead, rightfully so

They would...(said a CANUCKS fan who you know hates the oilers with a passion)
- annoyance_101

And yet I'm still worried that they don't make the playoffs. if things start slow for them, MacT will have to make a bold move player wise. The time for firing coaches and GMs have past. It's all on the players now.

Miller wont, Vanek will
- French-Connection

Only downside to Vanek is his amazing ability to find himself injured quite often...otherwise he'd an excellent player...he reminds me much of hemsky but vanek is better

And yet I'm still worried that they don't make the playoffs. if things start slow for them, MacT will have to make a bold move player wise. The time for firing coaches and GMs have past. It's all on the players now.
- doon

I'm not sure they will this year either, but I think Eakins is good at dealing with young guys...which SHOULD bode well for them more than anything...

The Sabres will get a handsome enough return for Miller.
- BuffaloHardHat

Of course they will.

"Young core players" did I say prospects? holy fack...and you say IIIIII dont have a clue? if I were listing prospects it would get worse for Buffalo fans comparing to Oilers
- annoyance_101

Happy to see you know how to over utilize emoticons.

That is what you get for sucking so long, but its really a no brainer here IMO
- annoyance_101

100000000000% agreed, the Oilers youth is amazing..I like what we have but they got the studs for sure..the only thing I argued was for Miller being way better than what they got now in nets..but for the fans here to argue our prospects are more deep is just a pride issue

Careful, you saw how that sort of statement turned out for me yesterday
- annoyance_101