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spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Aug 3 @ 12:45 PM ET
Based on last year, Anderson would obviously start for Team USA.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Aug 3 @ 12:46 PM ET
We can get way more for miller elsewhere. I still say keep him. If he still wants to leave at the deadline than teams will start a bidding war and get more for him then than we would now.
- LizzyJo

Unless some teams # 1 goalie is injured before the deadline I don't see that happening.


LizzyJo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CT
Joined: 07.11.2010

Aug 3 @ 12:46 PM ET
where am I wrong??
- French-Connection


I agree with you. IMO Hemsky and prospects are not the same worth as miller. Not even close.
OilDerek
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 08.26.2007

Aug 3 @ 12:47 PM ET
where am I wrong??
- French-Connection


Where are you wrong? Sweet baby Jesus...

First of all, Dubnyk had both a better GAA and Save % then Miller last year, behind what most would consider to be a very porous blue line.

Secondly, a 1st? For Miller? I'm not saying Hemsky is getting it done... But you sure as fack ain't getting a first, from Edmonton no less, for an aging Miller.

This may come as a surprise to many... But Dubnyk is the least of the Oils worries.
French-Connection
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 3 @ 12:47 PM ET
I'd tend to agree.

With a great goalie like Miller, I'd think you could probably get more near deadline time from a team gearing up for a run.

However, if EDM throws in a 1st and a quality prospect...

- jnwood2517

then ok..but they should throw in a 2nd rounder also if we are gonna take that overpriced pylon from the Oilers
Eklund
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

Aug 3 @ 12:47 PM ET
Its for hits people.
- Marshalle

Nope.
LizzyJo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CT
Joined: 07.11.2010

Aug 3 @ 12:48 PM ET
Unless some teams # 1 goalie is injured before the deadline I don't see that happening.

- jochfr


I foresee a lot of these goalie choices around the league not working out by February.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Aug 3 @ 12:48 PM ET
nope, much more than that..this is Ryan Miller we are talking about..I would rather just take a 1st rounder and a monster prospect at the deadline then, Hemsky is a cap hit we could do without..actually he's a player we could do without
- French-Connection

He's a rental... There would have to be a conditional pick or something in there.
No telling if he'd resign with the team he's traded to.
I don't think buffalo gets the package fans are expecting, IMO.
flashfire
Joined: 10.02.2006

Aug 3 @ 12:48 PM ET
Where are you wrong? Sweet baby Jesus...

First of all, Dubnyk had both a better GAA and Save % then Miller last year, behind what most would consider to be a very porous blue line.

Secondly, a 1st? For Miller? I'm not saying Hemsky is getting it done... But you sure as fack ain't getting a first, from Edmonton no less, for an aging Miller.

This may come as a surprise to many... But Dubnyk is the least of the Oils worries.

- OilDerek


keep telling yourselves that...its not all about numbers. Dubnyk gives up bad goals at the worst times
Eklund
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

Aug 3 @ 12:48 PM ET
Based on last year, Anderson would obviously start for Team USA.
- spatso


Nope. International hockey reputations carry their own weight. Unfortunately.
jnwood2517
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 01.27.2009

Aug 3 @ 12:49 PM ET
then ok..but they should throw in a 2nd rounder also if we are gonna take that overpriced pylon from the Oilers
- French-Connection

Definitely possible.

However, we ARE talking about a pending UFA. Standard practice is a 1st, a player and a prospect. Maybe include a 2nd conditional upon him resigning with EDM...
OilDerek
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 08.26.2007

Aug 3 @ 12:50 PM ET
keep telling yourselves that...its not all about numbers. Dubnyk gives up bad goals at the worst times
- flashfire


You got me... I have never seen the Miller give up a softy... Especially not last season... Are most recent frame of reference
French-Connection
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 3 @ 12:51 PM ET
Where are you wrong? Sweet baby Jesus...

First of all, Dubnyk had both a better GAA and Save % then Miller last year, behind what most would consider to be a very porous blue line.

Secondly, a 1st? For Miller? I'm not saying Hemsky is getting it done... But you sure as fack ain't getting a first, from Edmonton no less, for an aging Miller.

This may come as a surprise to many... But Dubnyk is the least of the Oils worries.

- OilDerek

well you might be the only fan in the world in Edmonton that thinks Dubnyk can help you more than Ryan Miller, dont get me wrong, you guys are on the verge of an amazing season IMO..but for us to give away a goalie that can lead a team to a stanley cup would be plain stupid of us to do for nothing..everybody in the NHL world knows the Oilers want to get rid of Hemsky badly..and I guarantee we will get a 1st rounder in the deal for Miller, thats a no brainer..hell look what we got for Pomer from Minny
isles10289
Joined: 02.17.2009

Aug 3 @ 12:51 PM ET
How so? I think Hemsky would thrive in Buffalo...
- Eklund


For 20 games before missing 60 with an undisclosed upper body injury.
flashfire
Joined: 10.02.2006

Aug 3 @ 12:51 PM ET
Once in a while players like that get traded for each other...
- Eklund


one has value and one has negative value...I just don't see it Edmonton would have to add more. Picking up Miller would be smart move for them for once though...all they seem to care about is flashy forwards and dmen who can score on the PP. We all know where that has gotten them

but you are entitled to your opinion
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Aug 3 @ 12:52 PM ET
For 20 games before missing 60 with an undisclosed upper body injury.
- isles10289

I was going to say at least 30 games but that's close enough...
PinkSock
Montreal Canadiens
Location: https://nhl66.ir/
Joined: 07.23.2010

Aug 3 @ 12:54 PM ET
Based on last year, Anderson would obviously start for Team USA.
- spatso

Obviously
French-Connection
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 3 @ 12:55 PM ET
You got me... I have never seen the Miller give up a softy... Especially not last season... Are most recent frame of reference

- OilDerek

Miller is awesome despite last year, look at his numbers of his career..2 years ago down the stretch when we almost got in he was the hottest goalie in the league..again..so last year he lost his heart for the first time, hell he's entitled, he is the 2nd best goalie in our history and no way we let him just go for nothing
PinkSock
Montreal Canadiens
Location: https://nhl66.ir/
Joined: 07.23.2010

Aug 3 @ 12:55 PM ET
the deal would also including prospects swapping places as well.

Hemsky, according to sources familiar, does believe he is getting traded and is being told the decision is up to "the player he is being traded for.."

That doesn't mean Miller of course, but it is possible...


Interesting
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Aug 3 @ 12:56 PM ET
Eklund: Ales Hemsky for Ryan Miller? Not Impossible.
- Eklund



What source told you this pathetic rumor?????? whoever it is should automatically lose creditability ......

If no one in the league wants Hemsky, why would Buffalo trade Miller when they could just acquire Hemsky for a lousy draft pick.

Honestly, you really can not be serious.....

jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Aug 3 @ 12:56 PM ET
Miller is above average despite last year, look at his numbers of his career..2 years ago down the stretch when we almost got in he was the hottest goalie in the league..again..so last year he lost his heart for the first time, hell he's entitled, he is the 2nd best goalie in our history and no way we let him just go for nothing
- French-Connection


Fixed:
OilDerek
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 08.26.2007

Aug 3 @ 12:56 PM ET
well you might be the only fan in the world in Edmonton that thinks Dubnyk can help you more than Ryan Miller, dont get me wrong, you guys are on the verge of an amazing season IMO..but for us to give away a goalie that can lead a team to a stanley cup would be plain stupid of us to do for nothing..everybody in the NHL world knows the Oilers want to get rid of Hemsky badly..and I guarantee we will get a 1st rounder in the deal for Millerl, thats a no brainer..hell look what we got for Pomer from Minny
- French-Connection


Lets agree that this deal will absolutely never happen... The 1st is a non-starter. For Mac T to use a first rounder for anything but a top pairing D would be travesty.
flashfire
Joined: 10.02.2006

Aug 3 @ 12:57 PM ET
You got me... I have never seen the Miller give up a softy... Especially not last season... Are most recent frame of reference

- OilDerek


its cool, I hope the Oilers stick with basically the same team...get hyped up all summer and into fall. Its makes it more satisfying when they tank
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 3 @ 12:57 PM ET
I think Quick, Howard and Schneider may all be above Miller on the Team USA depth chart at this point.

tomt8391
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Saw Forsberg at the airport, NY
Joined: 06.30.2010

Aug 3 @ 12:58 PM ET
I like Miller, and think he's an excellent goalie, but here in Buffalo ppl def overvalue him. I think the oilers need to shore up their blue line, and team defense in general. Miller would help them for sure, but I wouldn't give up what some ppl are suggesting. On the other hand, Miller for Hemsky doesn't sit right with me as a Sabre's fan. I like Hemsky, but I can't help be reminded of Connolly. I'm not sure what's going to happen with Miller but Regier needs to make a decision soon. I don't think they'll be as much deadline interest in him as ppl expect.
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