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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 3 @ 1:10 PM ET
Hackett, Knapp and Makarov..most likely a toss up here with Hackett as the favorite I guess..I am more excited about Makarov..but Enroth has shown stong stretches of course he would be number 1
- French-Connection


What kind of prospect are you guys looking for? Offense? Forward? Defenseman? Flyers could really use come goalie depth.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 3 @ 1:11 PM ET
do you think nurse makes an impact this year?
- digitalbath


No way. He's at least a year away from the NHL. Most likely 2.
OilDerek
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 08.26.2007

Aug 3 @ 1:12 PM ET
do you think nurse makes an impact this year?
- digitalbath


No... Management would be foolish to rush him. However, given their track record... I wouldn't be surprised. Many more d prospects a head of him on the depth chart.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Aug 3 @ 1:12 PM ET
I just threw up in my mouth.

Hemsky: the Czechoslovakian Tim Connolly.

There better be a top-notch prospect coming back with that slug.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 3 @ 1:13 PM ET
The Oilers will eventually have to make a bold move though...they have the most expensive forward group of any cap compliant team. With the RNH deal next year and Yak the year after they need to do something to have a more balanced team.

Need some size in the pacific division...with LA, Anaheim, Vancouver, SJ, its gonna be tough to take a spot from one of those teams

- flashfire


I agree. They need some bigger players with skill. They have too much finesse on that team.
French-Connection
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 3 @ 1:13 PM ET
The Oilers will eventually have to make a bold move though...they have the most expensive forward group of any cap compliant team. With the RNH deal next year and Yak the year after they need to do something to have a more balanced team.

Need some size in the pacific division...with LA, Anaheim, Vancouver, SJ, its gonna be tough to take a spot from one of those teams

- flashfire

the Oilers are gonna be amazing this year..I really see their goaltending as their biggest question mark..all those other teams are way more solid in the nets than them in an 82 game schedule..
Eklund
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

Aug 3 @ 1:14 PM ET
There is a lot of difference between the value some on here see these players and the value the GMs see them...
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 3 @ 1:14 PM ET
No... Management would be foolish to rush him. However, given their track record... I wouldn't be surprised. Many more d prospects a head of him on the depth chart.
- OilDerek


He's very raw. I think Jones and Risto may end up being the only dmen from this past draft to play a full season in the NHL
digitalbath
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Detroit, MI
Joined: 07.09.2011

Aug 3 @ 1:15 PM ET
No way. He's at least a year away from the NHL. Most likely 2.
- PhillySportsGuy



you would think, but they always play their prospects faster than most teams, i wouldnt be shocked if he played this year
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 3 @ 1:16 PM ET
There is a lot of difference between the value some on here see these players and the value the GMs see them...
- Eklund


Everyone always overvalues their own players.
OilDerek
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 08.26.2007

Aug 3 @ 1:16 PM ET
He's very raw. I think Jones and Risto may end up being the only dmen from this past draft to play a full season in the NHL
- PhillySportsGuy


Agreed... There is no reason to subject Nurse to the rigours of a full NHL season. He is not going to be the difference maker... This year
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 3 @ 1:17 PM ET
you would think, but they always play their prospects faster than most teams, i wouldnt be shocked if he played this year
- digitalbath


I would be shocked if Nurse played beyond the 10 game tryout period.
Marshalle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: oshawa, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Aug 3 @ 1:18 PM ET
There is a lot of difference between the value some on here see these players and the value the GMs see them...
- Eklund

No sheyet
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 3 @ 1:19 PM ET
Agreed... There is no reason to subject Nurse to the rigours of a full NHL season. He is not going to be the difference maker... This year
- OilDerek


I believe he will be a solid NHL defenseman no matter how he develops. I think his offensive game needs work. At worst he will be a more physical Brayden Coburn. A guy who can skate, provide size and play top 4 minutes.

If his offense develops, he can be a top pairing guy.
Losman
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 08.30.2006

Aug 3 @ 1:19 PM ET
We can get way more for miller elsewhere. I still say keep him. If he still wants to leave at the deadline than teams will start a bidding war and get more for him then than we would now.
- LizzyJo


Playoff bound teams rarely upgrade their starting goalie at the deadline. Regier should take the best offer for Miller before camp and get started evaluating whether Enroth can carry the load.
French-Connection
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 3 @ 1:20 PM ET
What kind of prospect are you guys looking for? Offense? Forward? Defenseman? Flyers could really use come goalie depth.
- PhillySportsGuy

my brother is a diehard Philly fan, he and I were pretty convinced Miller was gonna land in Philly about a month ago..as for prospects??..we are pretty deep at D but then again you can never have enough D in your system..so my guess it would be a ready NHL'r D or F and a 1st rounder..if we got more we would have to take a salary dump also..I dont expect us to be able to rip off somebody the way we ripped Minny in the Pomer deal, or Vancouver in the Hodgson deal but we should get a solid return for sure, Miller could be a number 1 for the next 5 years easy somewhere..and a great mentor as well
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Aug 3 @ 1:21 PM ET
He's very raw. I think Jones and Risto may end up being the only dmen from this past draft to play a full season in the NHL
- PhillySportsGuy

I'm not sure about Risto... I don't think buffalo should rush him into the line-up. There is a logjam at D right now. I think he plays at least 1 year in the AHL.

Edit: unless you meant in the future and not this upcoming year....
French-Connection
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 3 @ 1:23 PM ET
There is a lot of difference between the value some on here see these players and the value the GMs see them...
- Eklund

agreed, and Darcy usually wins his trades, but the clock is against us here on this one, so I just hope he gets a fair return and does not get greedy at the last minute etc
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 3 @ 1:24 PM ET
Here's why this is a joke. The Sabres are supposedly rebuilding. You don't trade your face of the franchise goalie for a player with the same 1 year remaining on his contract. The only way this is even remotely true would be if the prospects involved from Edmonton were Yakapov or RNH. Otherwise there is no sense in discussing this. Obviously something else would be going back to Edmonton maybe McNabb, Ruhwedel maybe even Pysk. I do think getting a first for Miller would be a stretch but seriously this isn't worth discussing unless some major young pieces were involved. You don't make a trade just to make a trade here

Also whoever put Schnieder ahead of Miller is out of their minds
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 3 @ 1:25 PM ET
my brother is a diehard Philly fan, he and I were pretty convinced Miller was gonna land in Philly about a month ago..as for prospects??..we are pretty deep at D but then again you can never have enough D in your system..so my guess it would be a ready NHL'r D or F and a 1st rounder..if we got more we would have to take a salary dump also..I dont expect us to be able to rip off somebody the way we ripped Minny in the Pomer deal, or Vancouver in the Hodgson deal but we should get a solid return for sure, Miller could be a number 1 for the next 5 years easy somewhere..and a great mentor as well
- French-Connection


The money won't work. Flyers are always up against the cap. If they trade for a high priced player they need to unload salary. I'm sure Vinny, Streit and Hartnell will all become a financial burden in a couple years.

Flyers are pretty set at goalie for next season. I was thinking more in terms of trading prospect for prospect. You guys giving up a goalie. Flyers giving up a skater. Flyers best forward prospect is Scott Laughton. He's NHL ready and a good two way center. At worst he's a 3rd line center who can match up against top lines while also putting in 40pts. At best he's a second line center who plays good two-way hockey and can put up 60-65 pts.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 3 @ 1:26 PM ET
I'm not sure about Risto... I don't think buffalo should rush him into the line-up. There is a logjam at D right now. I think he plays at least 1 year in the AHL.

Edit: unless you meant in the future and not this upcoming year....

- jochfr


I meant this upcoming year. He will, at the very least, get a long look. Players will usually make it clear when they're ready.

Buffalo may be more cautious after what happened last year though. I wouldn't blame them. I don't think waiting one year would stunt growth at all.
French-Connection
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 3 @ 1:27 PM ET
I'm not sure about Risto... I don't think buffalo should rush him into the line-up. There is a logjam at D right now. I think he plays at least 1 year in the AHL.

Edit: unless you meant in the future and not this upcoming year....

- jochfr

no, he will be on the team this year..he's NHL ready, that was one of the main reasons they were thrilled he was still available when it was our turn to pick..worst case, he is sent down if he cant cut it yet
French-Connection
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 3 @ 1:28 PM ET
Here's why this is a joke. The Sabres are supposedly rebuilding. You don't trade your face of the franchise goalie for a player with the same 1 year remaining on his contract. The only way this is even remotely true would be if the prospects involved from Edmonton were Yakapov or RNH. Otherwise there is no sense in discussing this. Obviously something else would be going back to Edmonton maybe McNabb, Ruhwedel maybe even Pysk. I do think getting a first for Miller would be a stretch but seriously this isn't worth discussing unless some major young pieces were involved. You don't make a trade just to make a trade here

Also whoever put Schnieder ahead of Miller is out of their minds

- Stripes77

agreed
jimi james
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere Between, NB
Joined: 07.17.2010

Aug 3 @ 1:29 PM ET
IMO the prospect is prob Omark
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Aug 3 @ 1:31 PM ET
no, he will be on the team this year..he's NHL ready, that was one of the main reasons they were thrilled he was still available when it was our turn to pick..worst case, he is sent down if he cant cut it yet
- French-Connection

Can't say with any certainty that he is though...
I can't say with certainty that he won't either. I guess we'll see.
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