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French-Connection
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 3 @ 3:27 PM ET
Miller

For

Hemsky
Dubnyk
N. Shultz
1st RD pick

Buffalo gets the first for taking on salary.
Rolls the dice with Hemsky. This is the wild card so to speak.
Gets a young goalie to replace Miller.
Just has to bite the bullet on salary for a year. Sabres are going to suck this year anyway.

Edmonton gets a solid veteran goalie. If Edmonton wins a playoff spot Miller will resign.
Frees up over 5 million in cap space...when you factor in the bonuses they're currently over the cap and that would eat into next year.

- quinnjj

thats fair..but most Oiler fans think Dubnyk is as good as Miller on here
Jacob582
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.06.2012

Aug 3 @ 3:28 PM ET
Hemsky??? Seriously???
I would rather keep Miller.

- Sabresfan88


Don't forget, we traded for Kotalik.
French-Connection
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 3 @ 3:28 PM ET
As a Canucks fan I could also live with it Getter done MacT
- annoyance_101

annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 3 @ 3:29 PM ET
Miller

For

Hemsky
Dubnyk
N. Shultz
1st RD pick

Buffalo gets the first for taking on salary.
Rolls the dice with Hemsky. This is the wild card so to speak.
Gets a young goalie to replace Miller.
Just has to bite the bullet on salary for a year. Sabres are going to suck this year anyway.

Edmonton gets a solid veteran goalie. If Edmonton wins a playoff spot Miller will resign.
Frees up over 5 million in cap space...when you factor in the bonuses they're currently over the cap and that would eat into next year.

- quinnjj


Take the 1st out and they may do it...Edmontons 1st is likely to still be out of a playoff spot...even with Miller...I'd say it will take a year or 2 of Eakins to make that team play the way they should...their past coaches have not done it since their cup run and really ruined that team...
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 3 @ 3:29 PM ET
Ok boys play nice in out
quinnjj
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 06.05.2012

Aug 3 @ 3:29 PM ET
thats fair..but most Oiler fans think Dubnyk is as good as Miller on here
- French-Connection


Dubnyk is no where close to Miller!
quinnjj
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 06.05.2012

Aug 3 @ 3:31 PM ET
Take the 1st out and they may do it...Edmontons 1st is likely to still be out of a playoff spot...even with Miller...I'd say it will take a year or 2 of Eakins to make that team play the way they should...their past coaches have not done it since their cup run and really ruined that team...
- annoyance_101


Without the first it too much of an unknown for the Sabres.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Aug 3 @ 3:31 PM ET
thats fair..but most Oiler fans realize that Dubnyk is as good as Miller right now, Dubnyk costs less and will get better.
- French-Connection


HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Aug 3 @ 3:32 PM ET
thats fair..but most Oiler fans think Dubnyk is as good as Miller on here
- French-Connection

no. most oiler fans say that dubnyk was a way better value at half the salary than miller was last year. and had better numbers.

annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 3 @ 3:32 PM ET
Without the first it too much of an unknown for the Sabres.
- quinnjj


Goaltenders are not worth what people are giving credit for...Fleury would go for about the same at this point...even given the fact he was taken SO high in the draft...
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Aug 3 @ 3:33 PM ET
[quote=laughs2907]
this
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Aug 3 @ 3:34 PM ET
Dubnyk is no where close to Miller!
- quinnjj


Clearly evident after Dubnyk's last 3 seasons
Jacob582
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.06.2012

Aug 3 @ 3:34 PM ET
Miller for Hemsky would not be that bad of a trade. Depending on the prospects/picks that would be included. There is no way Edm is going to resign Hemsky and getting Miller for a year will allow them time to se if they want to sign him long term. Sabres getting Hemsky is not very good for a team rebuilding, however if he has a good year, Hemsky would likely get more than Miller would at the trade deadline. Reason being is that starting goalies don't get traded at the deadline to teams in the hunt. Maybe a trade like Miller and a 2nd for Hemsky and a 1st? Edm is close to the cap, so they can't really take on money and they only have 2 d-men 6 forwards and no goalies signed past this year. A trade with Miller, Ennis (from Edmonton), Pysyk (from Alberta) and a 2nd for Hemsky and Yak would be nice for both teams. Only reason I mention Yak is because Edm was appearently shopping him earlier this year.
- adambuffalo


How about Miller, Myers and salary for Hemsky and Yak?
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Aug 3 @ 3:35 PM ET
no. most oiler fans say that dubnyk was a way better value at half the salary than miller was last year. and had better numbers.
- hugefemale dog77


Facts are not welcome here.
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 3 @ 3:36 PM ET
How about Miller, Myers and salary for Hemsky and Yak?
- Jacob582


I'd seriously consider that if i were an oilers fan
benny948
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.15.2013

Aug 3 @ 3:37 PM ET
How about Miller, Myers and salary for Hemsky and Yak?
- Jacob582

Not getting Yakupov that easily, at least from Oiler fans on this board who think Yak is worth a Kings ransom.
Jacob582
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.06.2012

Aug 3 @ 3:37 PM ET
Miller is not going to be traded this month.

Regier (and most GM's) are on vacation in August.
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 3 @ 3:38 PM ET
Not getting Yakupov that easily, at least from Oiler fans on this board who think Yak is worth a Kings ransom.
- benny948


Much like Sabres fan think about Miller
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Aug 3 @ 3:40 PM ET
How about Miller, Myers and salary for Hemsky and Yak?
- Jacob582

Why and how would the Oil take on salary? They're already pushing the cap. And no thanks.
Jacob582
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.06.2012

Aug 3 @ 3:41 PM ET
Why and how would the Oil take on salary? They're already pushing the cap. And no thanks.
- MaximumBone


oops, sorry. Meant Sabres would take on salary.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Aug 3 @ 3:41 PM ET
Why and how would the Oil take on salary? They're already pushing the cap. And no thanks.
- MaximumBone



I'm guessing he meant the sabres take back salary (could be wrong though).
French-Connection
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 3 @ 3:42 PM ET
Dubnyk is no where close to Miller!
- quinnjj

no kidding
either way, he is going out west somewhere eventually I am sure
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 3 @ 3:43 PM ET
Miller> Dubnyk. And it's not really as close as some think. I don't think Miller is the best in the world but he is the sole reason we didn't pick top 3. With some salary retained or Hemsky coming back as a contract dump Edmonton makes sense. Dubnyk might have similar numbers, but he's not a workhorse that can play 65+ games and has playoff experience. Edmonton is a better team with Miller
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 3 @ 3:44 PM ET
no kidding
either way, he is going out west somewhere eventually I am sure

- French-Connection

fu
BigStew
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.09.2007

Aug 3 @ 3:44 PM ET
There is a lot of difference between the value some on here see these players and the value the GMs see them...
- Eklund


Value has nothing to do with it. You don't trade one soon to be UFA for another when you are trying to rebuild. This deal makes absolutely no sense. None. Hell it doesn't even save you money.


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