benny948
Buffalo Sabres |
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Joined: 06.15.2013
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He lives in Colorado Springs now - DDM-Coga
He fits right in there, good for him, and I'm being serious. |
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bluenatic411
St Louis Blues |
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Location: St. Louis, MO Joined: 01.14.2013
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Mps is looking for about 2.25 million and that leaves the blues with about 7 million for petro. If someone offer sheets petro 8.5 million for 7 years I don't think the blues match. - Snagglepuss
There is no way MPS gets more coming off his ELC than PHI just gave to Couts. |
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jpl0219
St Louis Blues |
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Location: O Fallon, MO Joined: 01.16.2009
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Word is that he told his agent any offer sheets would have to be 7 years and have an aav over 7 per or he wasn't interested.
Tough for St. Louis to fit that in.... - Iggysbff
Its been well covered that Pietrangelo has asked his agent to stop looking for offer sheets, and focus on dealing with St Louis. He won't sign an offer sheet. He is staying in St Louis. |
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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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Its been well covered that Pietrangelo has asked his agent to stop looking for offer sheets, and focus on dealing with St Louis. He won't sign an offer sheet. He is staying in St Louis. - jpl0219
I think he is goign to end up taking a 1 year deal at 6.8 to match Jay-Bos current hit just to buy them some time and also give him another year to prove is a 7.5+ cap hit dman. |
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Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB Joined: 07.12.2012
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I think he is goign to end up taking a 1 year deal at 6.8 to match Jay-Bos current hit just to buy them some time and also give him another year to prove is a 7.5+ cap hit dman. - DDM-Coga
Problem is....if you were in his shoes would you take a one year deal and risk injury? Get your head rocked or something?
Its a risk on his part to sign short term.... |
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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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Problem is....if you were in his shoes would you take a one year deal and risk injury? Get your head rocked or something?
Its a risk on his part to sign short term.... - Iggysbff
This is true, but if he wants to be a long term blue, and they want to invest in him, but not at that price quiet yet, could be a mutual comprimise. |
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carcus
St Louis Blues |
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Location: #Winnington Joined: 02.12.2009
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Mps is looking for about 2.25 million and that leaves the blues with about 7 million for petro. If someone offer sheets petro 8.5 million for 7 years I don't think the blues match. - Snagglepuss
Highly doubt that MPS is going to get that much. Doesn't deserve that much yet.
Even if he got that much, the Blues are not losing Petro. I know, this is fantasy land and people love to dream, but it is just not happening. |
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jpl0219
St Louis Blues |
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Location: O Fallon, MO Joined: 01.16.2009
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I can see the blues trading him, contact talks are going nowhere and they just invested in Bouwmeester and they dont have the cap to fit in Pietrangelo unless they deal away someone else they need, They barely have any depth at forward as it is so whats the plan??? - GOA88
Barely have any depth at forward? 8 of their projected top 9 could play a top 6 role on any NHL team, and all of their top 12 could play a 3rd line role. How do you figure they don't have depth at Forward? And that's NOT including Rattie, or Jaskin. The Blues have 17 forwards that could see playing time this year.
Where they're thin on depth, believe it or not, is Defense. After Cole, you fall off to Chorney or Fairchild, unless Hakanpaa or Edmunson make an immediate impact with Chicago. Ponich is looking less and less like he's going to develop into an NHL D-man, so our hopes fall on the 2 previously mentioned.
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AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Canada, ON Joined: 11.05.2007
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There is no way MPS gets more coming off his ELC than PHI just gave to Couts. - bluenatic411
true. Piets 23 and knows if he signs anything longer than 3 years, it will eat into his UFA time.
Option A: 3 years $ 5.5 - 5.75. Then sign him 8 years contract extension in 2 years which will probably be 7-8m a year.
Option B: sign him now to a 5 year deal worth $ 6M, eat 2 years, middle $
Option C: Long term deal takes him to 31-- 8 years 52-56M |
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jpl0219
St Louis Blues |
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Location: O Fallon, MO Joined: 01.16.2009
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you also have 1.25m in bonus's counting against you right now too, Tarasenko and Schwartz, chances are they dont hit the full amount if any of it either. - DDM-Coga
I believe you can go over the cap a certain percentage to fit bonuses in though.
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jpl0219
St Louis Blues |
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Location: O Fallon, MO Joined: 01.16.2009
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true. Piets 23 and knows if he signs anything longer than 3 years, it will eat into his UFA time.
Option A: 3 years $ 5.5 - 5.75. Then sign him 8 years contract extension in 2 years which will probably be 7-8m a year.
Option B: sign him now to a 5 year deal worth $ 6M, eat 2 years, middle $
Option C: Long term deal takes him to 31-- 8 years 52-56M - AlfieisKing
I could also see a 1 year deal giving him Arb rights next season, a prove it contract like PK signed.
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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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I could also see a 1 year deal giving him Arb rights next season, a prove it contract like PK signed. - jpl0219
thats my guess, the 1 year 6mill, but im sure he will want 7 so he is still making the top dollar for a dman on your team. |
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carcus
St Louis Blues |
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Location: #Winnington Joined: 02.12.2009
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8 yrs, $50 Million
5, 5.5, 6, 6, 6.5, 6.5, 7, 7.5
6.25 Cap Hit
I think this would get the deal done. |
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bluenatic411
St Louis Blues |
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Location: St. Louis, MO Joined: 01.14.2013
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true. Piets 23 and knows if he signs anything longer than 3 years, it will eat into his UFA time.
Option A: 3 years $ 5.5 - 5.75. Then sign him 8 years contract extension in 2 years which will probably be 7-8m a year.
Option B: sign him now to a 5 year deal worth $ 6M, eat 2 years, middle $
Option C: Long term deal takes him to 31-- 8 years 52-56M - AlfieisKing
I believe there really only two options: A 2 year deal or a 6 to 8 year deal. A 3 year deal makes no sense to me as he will be a UFA at the end of it, unlike a 2 year deal where he will still be restricted. A deal of 4 or 5 years, to me, buys too few of his UFA years at today's lower prices. A 1 year deal just kicks the can down the road and, as pointed out previously, exposes the player to a significant risk should he get hurt. |
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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ Joined: 04.08.2012
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"Getting Jay Bouwmeester signed to a contract extension before he could hit unrestricted free agency next summer has been a priority for St. Louis all along"
Why? |
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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ Joined: 04.08.2012
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8 yrs, $50 Million
5, 5.5, 6, 6, 6.5, 6.5, 7, 7.5
6.25 Cap Hit
I think this would get the deal done. - carcus
I think hes looking for more than that |
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Flyers_V88
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Ajax, ON Joined: 02.26.2013
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I think hes looking for more than that - PhillySportsGuy
I think so too. The minimum I can see him settling for is probably around $6.5-$7 mil cap. |
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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ Joined: 04.08.2012
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I think so too. The minimum I can see him settling for is probably around $6.5-$7 mil cap. - Flyers_V88
I think 8yr AAV $7 |
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uf1910
Tampa Bay Lightning |
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Location: Excuseville, FL Joined: 06.29.2011
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"Getting Jay Bouwmeester signed to a contract extension before he could hit unrestricted free agency next summer has been a priority for St. Louis all along"
Why? - PhillySportsGuy
Because he is a solid top 4 d-man. The only reason he is thought of otherwise is Calgary placed unreasonable offensive expectations on him. His past cap hit had a number that meant he "needed" to provide that offensive production to live up to the salary. This contract does not have that cap hit and in the Blues defensive structure and with their defensive depth he won't be counted on for that production.
He is a minute-eating solid top 4 d-man plain and simple. In fact, he is exactly the type of d-man that your Flyers need to fill their void on the back-end
EDIT: Also the fact he is left handed d-man fits perfectly. StL has tried for years to get a lefty partner for Pietro |
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All Blues
St Louis Blues |
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Location: Brooklyn, NY Joined: 03.06.2008
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I believe there really only two options: A 2 year deal or a 6 to 8 year deal. A 3 year deal makes no sense to me as he will be a UFA at the end of it, unlike a 2 year deal where he will still be restricted. A deal of 4 or 5 years, to me, buys too few of his UFA years at today's lower prices. A 1 year deal just kicks the can down the road and, as pointed out previously, exposes the player to a significant risk should he get hurt. - bluenatic411
Since we sent him back to Niagra/Barrie three years in a row before he reached his nine game rookie status max, his UFA clock didn't start until three years ago. He has at least four years before he reaches UFA status.
Sh!ttily, by the time he finally played a full season, in which he led all rookie d'men in ice time/points/+-, he had played over 25 games total and was disqualified from Calder consideration. |
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bluenatic411
St Louis Blues |
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Location: St. Louis, MO Joined: 01.14.2013
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Since we sent him back to Niagra/Barrie three years in a row before he reached his nine game rookie status max, his UFA clock didn't start until three years ago. He has at least four years before he reaches UFA status.
Sh!ttily, by the time he finally played a full season, in which he led all rookie d'men in ice time/points/+-, he had played over 25 games total and was disqualified from Calder consideration. - All Blues
Wow, brain fart. For some reason I thought he had accrued 4 years of service time.
In that case, a 3 year deal makes sense, but I would certainly want to see the Blues work on the extension in two years rather waiting until he is on the brink. |
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J-bo @ 5.4 mill is way too much.
If St'Louis gets stuck with J-bo without Peit to carry him along the level of disaster J-bo's signing will be monumental. |
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carcus
St Louis Blues |
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Location: #Winnington Joined: 02.12.2009
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J-bo @ 5.4 mill is way too much.
If St'Louis gets stuck with J-bo without Peit to carry him along the level of disaster J-bo's signing will be monumental. - Aerchon
Won't happen. And Petro won't be carrying JBo. They are a good pair that work well together. |
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JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: 2Spookyville, PA Joined: 03.09.2013
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It's scary that their defense would still be good without Piets. |
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JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: 2Spookyville, PA Joined: 03.09.2013
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J-bo @ 5.4 mill is way too much.
If St'Louis gets stuck with J-bo without Peit to carry him along the level of disaster J-bo's signing will be monumental. - Aerchon
That's actually more of a steal. |
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