tincup
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Location: AB Joined: 07.21.2006
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Pietro's camp has already informed the Blues that their only interest is in resigning with the Blues. There are no teams with enough cap space & need for a d'man, so this is not this summer's Weber. - All Blues
I can think of one team with enough cap space and a need for a dman. I'm sure he'd welcome an offer sheet especially because the Blues will surely match. But I doubt he'll get one at least not before the fall if it goes on that long....which it won't. |
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carcus
St Louis Blues |
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Location: #Winnington Joined: 02.12.2009
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An awkwardly long hug, and a one-way ticket back to the 80's. - laughs2907
Sweet. Let me figure out the time travel part. May have to watch Back to the Future a few times to get it right. |
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carcus
St Louis Blues |
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Location: #Winnington Joined: 02.12.2009
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I can think of one team with enough cap space and a need for a dman. I'm sure he'd welcome an offer sheet especially because the Blues will surely match. But I doubt he'll get one at least not before the fall if it goes on that long....which it won't. - tincup
Who? A team that Petro would want to go to? |
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Flyers_V88
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Ajax, ON Joined: 02.26.2013
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Pietro's camp has already informed the Blues that their only interest is in resigning with the Blues. There are no teams with enough cap space & need for a d'man, so this is not this summer's Weber. - All Blues
I agree fully with the assertion that there are not many, if any, team that are willing to commit to those terms. However, I think there are a few teams in need of a D like him, and are willing to commit if they knew they could land him. I think the Flyers are one of them. |
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Flyers_V88
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Ajax, ON Joined: 02.26.2013
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You have a horse that talks? That would be worth a lot in a trade. What do you want for him? - carcus
Haha, I'd actually say that trade proposal is pretty damn fair. You get arguably the best player in the league, who would become a LEGIT #1 with the Blues (not that he isn't in Pittsburgh, but lets face it, he's in Sid's shadow). |
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GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 08.02.2013
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I agree fully with the assertion that there are not many, if any, team that are willing to commit to those terms. However, I think there are a few teams in need of a D like him, and are willing to commit if they knew they could land him. I think the Flyers are one of them. - Flyers_V88
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Flyers_V88
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Ajax, ON Joined: 02.26.2013
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- GOA88
Yeah, the key word here is *IF* they knew they could land him. I think that the rumors and talks are true, he essentially just wants to stay in St. Louis, and St. Louis will essentially match anything, so I think teams aren't even bothering trying to Offer-Sheet him or trade for him, mute point. But, the Flyers are at the top of the list of teams looking for a Pietrangelo-type D. |
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Yeah Boyes
St Louis Blues |
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Location: Ekland, MO Joined: 04.20.2009
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Well J-Bo's extension won't affect Mr. Peter-Angelo but it will more than likely affect J-Bo by causing J-Bo's game to go to hell. |
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carcus
St Louis Blues |
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Location: #Winnington Joined: 02.12.2009
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Well J-Bo's extension won't affect Mr. Peter-Angelo but it will more than likely affect J-Bo by causing J-Bo's game to go to hell. - Yeah Boyes
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Flyers_V88
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Ajax, ON Joined: 02.26.2013
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Well J-Bo's extension won't affect Mr. Peter-Angelo but it will more than likely affect J-Bo by causing J-Bo's game to go to hell. - Yeah Boyes
Think so? I can see J-Bo actually becoming stable, as he won't be asked to carry the work-load and be the #1 guy. Just my thoughts though. |
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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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Its a great fair deal for Jay-Bo as logn as it doesnt cause any issues trying to keep on budget with all the resignings that the Blues have to do.
They have lots of cap space next season, but still need a signed Pietrangelo and Paajarvi this season, as well as resign either Halak, Elliott, or both, plus Berglund and Steen, Sobotka, and Schwartz. Should be ok as long as they are smart with those contracts if they dont have the budget to spend to the cap. |
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Flyers_V88
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Ajax, ON Joined: 02.26.2013
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Its a great fair deal for Jay-Bo as logn as it doesnt cause any issues trying to keep on budget with all the resignings that the Blues have to do.
They have lots of cap space next season, but still need a signed Pietrangelo and Paajarvi this season, as well as resign either Halak, Elliott, or both, plus Berglund and Steen, Sobotka, and Schwartz. Should be ok as long as they are smart with those contracts if they dont have the budget to spend to the cap. - DDM-Coga
Yeah, and I can even see them trading Halak for some young pieces or picks. I don't think he's needed as much as he once was. |
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carcus
St Louis Blues |
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Location: #Winnington Joined: 02.12.2009
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Its a great fair deal for Jay-Bo as logn as it doesnt cause any issues trying to keep on budget with all the resignings that the Blues have to do.
They have lots of cap space next season, but still need a signed Pietrangelo and Paajarvi this season, as well as resign either Halak, Elliott, or both, plus Berglund and Steen, Sobotka, and Schwartz. Should be ok as long as they are smart with those contracts if they dont have the budget to spend to the cap. - DDM-Coga
Blues management is not dumb enough to sign this deal if it was going to cause issues with their long term plans. |
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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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Blues management is not dumb enough to sign this deal if it was going to cause issues with their long term plans. - carcus
I didnt think it would as well, one of the better run franchises with their management in place. You have young assets coming up to replace some of those guys too, Allen and Rattie can easily plug into the lineup if some of those pending UFAs are too expensive to keep. |
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carcus
St Louis Blues |
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Location: #Winnington Joined: 02.12.2009
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Yeah, and I can even see them trading Halak for some young pieces or picks. I don't think he's needed as much as he once was. - Flyers_V88
I don't see them trading Halak. Elliott is not a #1 that can be counted on in the playoffs. He is a good backup. Allen is not ready to be counted on in the playoffs. He has just 15 NHL games played, 0 playoff games.
Halak is their best shot at going deep in the playoffs, and the team is ready to make a deep run.
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Flyers_V88
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Ajax, ON Joined: 02.26.2013
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Blues management is not dumb enough to sign this deal if it was going to cause issues with their long term plans. - carcus
I think general fans forget this fact when thinking about teams and their signings... They have paid and trained experts in economics, negotiations, and long-term planning to forecast these situations. Obviously there are hiccups and changes here and there, but teams generally have a good sense of who to sign, and for how long and much. |
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Flyers_V88
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Ajax, ON Joined: 02.26.2013
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I don't see them trading Halak. Elliott is not a #1 that can be counted on in the playoffs. He is a good backup. Allen is not ready to be counted on in the playoffs. He has just 15 NHL games played, 0 playoff games.
Halak is their best shot at going deep in the playoffs, and the team is ready to make a deep run. - carcus
Fair, I trust your word obviously, as I'm sure you catch all the games. Just seems that his lustre has worn off in recent years? Injuries may have played a part, but he doesn't seem to get the recognition in the media he once did. Either way, the Blues will be fine with their cap situation. |
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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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I don't see them trading Halak. Elliott is not a #1 that can be counted on in the playoffs. He is a good backup. Allen is not ready to be counted on in the playoffs. He has just 15 NHL games played, 0 playoff games.
Halak is their best shot at going deep in the playoffs, and the team is ready to make a deep run. - carcus
I agree, I have watched elliott at his worst when he was with the Avs, when he is bad, he crumbles and is bad. Might not be a bad move to try and pick up a vetern goalie at the deadline to rely on if Halak is looking shakey.
Teams that probably wont be contending at the time or have pending UFA tenders, Miller might be too expensive to get at that time, I could see the avs moving Giggy if they are out of it, Hiller from the ducks could be a target, and there is always crazy Tim Thomas lurking in a bunker somewhere.
I think they are options as a better backup than Elliott at the deadline |
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spatso
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: jensen beach, FL Joined: 02.19.2007
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Blues management is not dumb enough to sign this deal if it was going to cause issues with their long term plans. - carcus
I think the J.Bo signing is a great move by Armstrong. No doubt in my mind Pietrangelo + J.Bo will be one of the top D pairings for years to come.
Make no mistake, the new CBA has made the idea of an offer sheet to blue chip talent virtually obsolete. You cannot back end or front end contracts anymore. If a team like Calgary or Buffalo does an offer sheet, maybe you think about it because you have up to four shots at the lottery pick. But, Calgary and Buffalo just would not take that risk.
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bluenatic411
St Louis Blues |
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Location: St. Louis, MO Joined: 01.14.2013
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I can see the blues trading him, contact talks are going nowhere and they just invested in Bouwmeester and they dont have the cap to fit in Pietrangelo unless they deal away someone else they need, They barely have any depth at forward as it is so whats the plan??? - GOA88
The idea that the Blues don't have the cap space without moving another piece is simply not true. They have $8.8M of space right now with 2 players to sign. MPS will get $1.75M at most, but his deal will replace a $600k deal on the cap roster, leaving more than $7.5M to sign Petro. |
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GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 08.02.2013
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Yeah, the key word here is *IF* they knew they could land him. I think that the rumors and talks are true, he essentially just wants to stay in St. Louis, and St. Louis will essentially match anything, so I think teams aren't even bothering trying to Offer-Sheet him or trade for him, mute point. But, the Flyers are at the top of the list of teams looking for a Pietrangelo-type D. - Flyers_V88
If Pietrangelo is available Holmgren will make a huge play for him, Read, Meszaros, Coburn, all expendable. Not all in the same trade but any combination of them and maybe Couturier or Schenn and a 1st rd pick should do it and I would pull the trigger on that quick cause flyers are plenty deep at forward. |
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The idea that the Blues don't have the cap space without moving another piece is simply not true. They have $8.8M of space right now with 2 players to sign. MPS will get $1.75M at most, but his deal will replace a $600k deal on the cap roster, leaving more than $7.5M to sign Petro. - bluenatic411
Mps is looking for about 2.25 million and that leaves the blues with about 7 million for petro. If someone offer sheets petro 8.5 million for 7 years I don't think the blues match. |
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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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The idea that the Blues don't have the cap space without moving another piece is simply not true. They have $8.8M of space right now with 2 players to sign. MPS will get $1.75M at most, but his deal will replace a $600k deal on the cap roster, leaving more than $7.5M to sign Petro. - bluenatic411
you also have 1.25m in bonus's counting against you right now too, Tarasenko and Schwartz, chances are they dont hit the full amount if any of it either. |
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Wingsfan61
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Westland, MI Joined: 05.09.2008
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This a little off topic, but any idea on where Tim Thomas is heading? Just a txt from my son, who works for Delta Airlines in Detroit and he just put Thomas's gear on the flight to Denver. Is Team USA having any workouts in Colorado Springs? |
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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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This a little off topic, but any idea on where Tim Thomas is heading? Just a txt from my son, who works for Delta Airlines in Detroit and he just put Thomas's gear on the flight to Denver. Is Team USA having any workouts in Colorado Springs? - Wingsfan61
He lives in Colorado Springs now |
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