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AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 31 @ 10:30 PM ET
I really feel chastised now.
- sanfordnson


No. Trolls never do. It's part of your charm, right?
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Jul 31 @ 10:30 PM ET
No. Trolls never do. It's part of your charm, right?
- AllInForFlyers

To know me is to love me.
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Jul 31 @ 10:31 PM ET
To know me is to love me.
- sanfordnson

i love you rockford
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Jul 31 @ 10:34 PM ET
i love you rockford
- watsonnostaw

I love you wahtsun
MatzCT
New York Rangers
Location: CO
Joined: 08.04.2009

Jul 31 @ 10:36 PM ET
The Canadian teams can compete with the cash, but not with the geography. Edmonton regularly gets to -20 C and -30 C for some of the winter. Not exactly the place I want to be if money doesn't matter. New York is likely (I've never been there) one of the top 10 cities in the world for desirability when money is not a problem. You do realize that Pronger played one year in Edmonton, took them to within 1 game of the cup then asked for a trade? Since then, it has even been worse for Edmonton to attract top free agents or even players with NMC or NTC's. (See Vanek, Penner RFA offer sheets; Heatly trade, Nylander, Hossa, etc........) Therefore, teams like Edmonton must build through the draft.

If you look at the Oilers from 91-2005 (60c Canadian dollar had a lot to do with it), they competed for 8th place at best. Sometimes made the playoffs, sometimes just missed. As a result drafted around middle of the pack. A team that is in a city (with plenty of fan support through thick and thin) that isn't desirable for free agents can never get better.

- Al Hacker


but it's a dry cold isn't it? but seriously, I hadn't considered it that bad but I guess it is from a players perspective, I always thought Edmonton was a cool little city but what do I know. Maybe with the team getting better it'll attract some new talent, otherwise you guys are eternally fu*ked. You could keep rebuilding through the draft and your top players will eventually hit ufa status so yuo still have some type of window management has to consider.

sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Jul 31 @ 10:39 PM ET
but it's a dry cold isn't it? but seriously, I hadn't considered it that bad but I guess it is from a players perspective, I always thought Edmonton was a cool little city but what do I know. Maybe with the team getting better it'll attract some new talent, otherwise you guys are eternally fu*ked. You could keep rebuilding through the draft and your top players will eventually hit ufa status so yuo still have some type of window management has to consider.
- MatzCT

Dry cold in Alberta, and despite popular and idiotic opinion, not -30 6 months of the year.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jul 31 @ 10:49 PM ET
Troll blog carolina wishes it had enough fans to support players to not play for their team
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Jul 31 @ 10:52 PM ET
Troll blog carolina wishes it had enough fans to support players to not play for their team
- 2Real

kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jul 31 @ 11:05 PM ET

- sanfordnson

FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jul 31 @ 11:15 PM ET
I read this article without looking, thinking it was Meltzer's. I thought he went nuts at first. Thank god its just an article from the one of the many dodos who post for other teams.
- TrentKlatt

That is exactly what happened to me!!!!!
Jurco_28
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: 51st state-Canada or Puerto Rico?
Joined: 06.29.2013

Jul 31 @ 11:21 PM ET

- sanfordnson

thats a picture of him/her too..
Jurco_28
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: 51st state-Canada or Puerto Rico?
Joined: 06.29.2013

Jul 31 @ 11:23 PM ET
worst gm are you crazy name me a bad gm who acquire couturier and voracek for jeff carter or acquire the rights of hartnell and timonen for a picks. the only reason the team have a bad seasons last years its because of the injury. i see the team make the playoff easy this years

my lines
hartnell giroux voracek
schenn lecavalier read
gagné couturier simmonds
talbot hall rinaldo

coburn timonen
schenn streit
grossman gustafson or lauridsen

bye bye meszaros and his 4m on the cap hit

emery starter for 50 match maybe less
mason start the rest

not to bad for a team who have a supposed bad gm

- gantron666


goaltending is still a joke , always has been always will be
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Jul 31 @ 11:50 PM ET

- kicksave856

Bro do you even gif?
Marshalle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: oshawa, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Aug 1 @ 12:24 AM ET
goaltending is still a joke , always has been always will be
- Jurco_28

Yes, might as well give up.
Al Hacker
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Stony Plain, AB
Joined: 02.10.2007

Aug 1 @ 8:07 AM ET
That's an argument that bottom-feeders don't like, because they already get every subsidy in the book when drafting.

Bottom-feeders want it every which way they can get it: Don't spend more money than us. Give us higher draft picks. Don't sign our free agents. Don't bully us with offer sheets -- but ignore us when we sign Dustin Penner and Thomas Vanek to offer sheets. Make there be a salary cap so our franchise can compete.

It just never stops, with bottom-feeders.

- AllInForFlyers


Are you really this stunned?
Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French
Joined: 07.01.2006

Aug 1 @ 10:27 AM ET
Is this the place where the butthurt fans hang out?
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Aug 1 @ 10:39 AM ET
Is this the place where the butthurt fans hang out?
- Oilhab

Welcome, my son.
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Aug 1 @ 10:42 AM ET
Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French
Joined: 07.01.2006

Aug 1 @ 10:43 AM ET
Welcome, my son.
- feelingkettle

Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Aug 1 @ 10:54 AM ET
good that makes you just as old as me. thought only young guys visited this site.
- devfan30

That makes you a Scouts/Rockies fan from 1975-1982 before moving with the team to NJ?
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Aug 1 @ 10:57 AM ET
That makes you a Scouts/Rockies fan from 1975-1982 before moving with the team to NJ?
- Flyskippy

Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Aug 1 @ 11:00 AM ET
Welcome, my son.
- feelingkettle

chienblanc
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilmington, DE
Joined: 06.19.2007

Aug 1 @ 11:37 AM ET
What if all of the teams that paid into (you know the successful ones) revenue sharing were able to spend over by the same amount?
- Marshalle


Worthy of discussion. Seems more fair than the hard cap ceiling / floor as first glance.
Al Hacker
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Stony Plain, AB
Joined: 02.10.2007

Aug 1 @ 11:51 AM ET
Worthy of discussion. Seems more fair than the hard cap ceiling / floor as first glance.
- chienblanc


Team with the most money wins is always the best.
devfan30
New Jersey Devils
Location: totowa, NJ
Joined: 12.18.2007

Aug 1 @ 12:02 PM ET
That makes you a Scouts/Rockies fan from 1975-1982 before moving with the team to NJ?
- Flyskippy

actually I live in northern NJ, and was 14 years old when the devils moved to jersey, family has been a season ticket holder since day one. so I became a devils fan because the team showed up on my door step.
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