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Bluechip23
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.22.2012

Aug 1 @ 1:32 AM ET
For flying into the captain? as often as the team wants you to...essentially you're their female dog for that game...and his biggest mistake was not fighting bertuzzi
- annoyance_101


Thats BS. I dont blame him at all. He fought once and it shoudl have been over. If that was the other way around and burrows gave a cheap shot and had his career ended we would be going crazy.
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 1 @ 1:33 AM ET
You mention the one when she was seven.. Is there something behind this?
- RF_4eva


Not at all, the fact that you know her age here disturbs me greatly btw...I'm pointing out that you just called......a.........never mind i'm not even going there....
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

Aug 1 @ 1:33 AM ET
I'm afraid not.


Smurfs-A-Joke was banned for the next year and a half when I got here. I added another year. I've also tagged his IP, so any new accounts will be getting watched. Sorry for the delay.

- micah555

annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 1 @ 1:34 AM ET
Thats BS. I dont blame him at all. He fought once and it shoudl have been over. If that was the other way around and burrows gave a cheap shot and had his career ended we would be going crazy.
- Bluechip23


He's gotta man up if he's gonna play superman into Naslund...fighting cooke is not manning up, its taking the easy way out and thinking thats the end of it
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Aug 1 @ 1:35 AM ET
For flying into the captain? as often as the team wants you to...essentially you're their female dog for that game...and his biggest mistake was not fighting bertuzzi
- annoyance_101


Completely wrong. The code is that he has to man up and fight due to his transgressions. If the Canucks didn't want him fighting Matt Cooke then Crawford shouldn't have lined Cooke up beside him and Cooke shouldn't have challenged him. The code is not that he has to fight until he loses. It isn't the Thunderdome.
Bluechip23
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.22.2012

Aug 1 @ 1:38 AM ET
He's gotta man up if he's gonna play superman into Naslund...fighting cooke is not manning up, its taking the easy way out and thinking thats the end of it
- annoyance_101


I have seen that hit over and over again. When are we going to look objectively at that play. NAslund lunges into him and leaves himself exposed. YES the hit was dirty but it wasnt intentional and there isnt any evidence that moore is a dirty player.

I respectfully disagree that he has to fight every person. What happened when Marchand low bridged us in the cup final. Thats a way dirty hit than what moore did. What happend when Keith elbowed Dank. Much worse than what moore did. Where were all the fights then?
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Aug 1 @ 1:38 AM ET
Why do you have a problem with one and not the other? The results were the exact same. 2 players careers ended due to brain injuries from illegal, intentional and malicious hits to the head.
- KB3Point0


Here's a hint; it comes down to who delivered the hit. I believe Bure was within his full rights to deliver that elbow. Bert was not. Bert had no reason to be involved. Naslund needed to take care of his own business.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Aug 1 @ 1:39 AM ET
Talking about the Bertuzzi game, not immediately after the Naslund hit. This is a conversation about Cooke, not the Naslund hit.
- KB3Point0


You can't really talk about one game without the other. They're kind of intertwined.
RF_4eva
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Fosco's son, BC
Joined: 09.11.2012

Aug 1 @ 1:39 AM ET
Not at all, the fact that you know her age here disturbs me greatly btw...I'm pointing out that you just called......a.........never mind i'm not even going there....
- annoyance_101

.......

Edit: Fosco I know its tough losing your number 1 fan, but sometimes you just got to let go. This girl is the 1
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Aug 1 @ 1:39 AM ET
He's gotta man up if he's gonna play superman into Naslund...fighting cooke is not manning up, its taking the easy way out and thinking thats the end of it
- annoyance_101


Then that's on Cooke for not beating him. Exactly my point. That is the code.
Bluechip23
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.22.2012

Aug 1 @ 1:40 AM ET
Then that's on Cooke for not beating him. Exactly my point. That is the code.
- KB3Point0


Exactly.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Aug 1 @ 1:42 AM ET
I have seen that hit over and over again. When are we going to look objectively at that play. NAslund lunges into him and leaves himself exposed. YES the hit was dirty but it wasnt intentional and there isnt any evidence that moore is a dirty player.

I respectfully disagree that he has to fight every person. What happened when Marchand low bridged us in the cup final. Thats a way dirty hit than what moore did. What happend when Keith elbowed Dank. Much worse than what moore did. Where were all the fights then?

- Bluechip23


Nothing, it happened the following season. Marchand was ejected from the game and we haven't played the Bruins since........
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Aug 1 @ 1:42 AM ET
I have seen that hit over and over again. When are we going to look objectively at that play. NAslund lunges into him and leaves himself exposed. YES the hit was dirty but it wasnt intentional and there isnt any evidence that moore is a dirty player.

I respectfully disagree that he has to fight every person. What happened when Marchand low bridged us in the cup final. Thats a way dirty hit than what moore did. What happend when Keith elbowed Dank. Much worse than what moore did. Where were all the fights then?

- Bluechip23


Moore saw Naslund without the puck and hit him while he was in a vulnerable position. He targeted the head and knocked him unconscious. He had a straight line to the puck that he avoided. Textbook dirty hit, but certainly not the worst in recent years (Richards, Cooke, etc).
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Aug 1 @ 1:43 AM ET
Completely wrong. The code is that he has to man up and fight due to his transgressions. If the Canucks didn't want him fighting Matt Cooke then Crawford shouldn't have lined Cooke up beside him and Cooke shouldn't have challenged him. The code is not that he has to fight until he loses. It isn't the Thunderdome.
- KB3Point0


The code isn't that you get to pick and choose who you fight or else anybody that got dirty with Gretzky would have chosen to fight Kurri.......not Semenko. Nice try though.
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 1 @ 1:45 AM ET
I have seen that hit over and over again. When are we going to look objectively at that play. NAslund lunges into him and leaves himself exposed. YES the hit was dirty but it wasnt intentional and there isnt any evidence that moore is a dirty player.

I respectfully disagree that he has to fight every person. What happened when Marchand low bridged us in the cup final. Thats a way dirty hit than what moore did. What happend when Keith elbowed Dank. Much worse than what moore did. Where were all the fights then?

- Bluechip23


Well Keith...being suspended and all, the league took action, which honestly I think is what should have happened with the moore/naslund hit, if they suspended him for the game against the canucks when bertuzzi was obviously out for revenge, it would not have happened...
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Aug 1 @ 1:46 AM ET
She's cute and very quirky. But would you call her hot? I have yet to see an image of that I would consider hot.
- bloatedmosquito


I think she's smoking hot, but yes, in a bit of a quirky way, which I like.

I've seen a handful of regulars on this board share that sentiment.

Have you ever seen her on her show at all?
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Aug 1 @ 1:46 AM ET
How many times do you have to man up?
- KB3Point0


You don't get to decline a bunch of times and then pick Cooke as your partner. You have to take your lumps for doing what he did. He refused, it went really bad.
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 1 @ 1:47 AM ET
You don't get to decline a bunch of times and then pick Cooke as your partner. You have to take your lumps for doing what he did. He refused, it went really bad.
- golfingsince

Exactly, thats not excusing what Bertuzzi did, but if he manned up against him JUST before he hit him...that wouldn't have been the result...a real fight would have been the result...Cooke is not a fighter...
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Aug 1 @ 1:48 AM ET
Then that's on Cooke for not beating him. Exactly my point. That is the code.
- KB3Point0


So in other words if somebody beats up your sister they don't have to fight you, they can fight your mom instead if they so choose.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Aug 1 @ 1:48 AM ET
Exactly.
- Bluechip23


yeah, I don't think Moore had to fight until he lost. My point is that Cooke, Bertuzzi, and May should have stayed out of it and Naslund should have delivered equal retribution. Eye for an eye kind of stuff.

I would have loved to have seen Naslund put an elbow through Moore's face. Just like Bure did. I would have LOVED it.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Aug 1 @ 1:49 AM ET
Exactly, thats not excusing what Bertuzzi did, but if he manned up against him JUST before he hit him...that wouldn't have been the result...a real fight would have been the result...Cooke is not a fighter...
- annoyance_101



Moore refused EVERYONE then went for Cooke. It's like we're pretending Cooke was the only willing partner.......
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 1 @ 1:51 AM ET
Moore refused EVERYONE then went for Cooke. It's like we're pretending Cooke was the only willing partner.......
- golfingsince


The whole team wanted his head...yet he went for Cooke? the least likely to give him an absolutely pounding...go against Brad May or Todd Bertuzzi, you'd get whats deservedly coming to you...Hand picking Cooke is the worst thing he could have done...
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Aug 1 @ 1:52 AM ET
The code isn't that you get to pick and choose who you fight or else anybody that got dirty with Gretzky would have chosen to fight Kurri.......not Semenko. Nice try though.
- golfingsince

Cementko didn't give them a choice. Sometimes they'd get off with a warning. Different situation entirely. Semenko had no illusions about his role. The Canucks didn't really have a guy like him around.

Probs should have ended after Cooke though. Not Moores problem that the toughest guy he fought was Cooke. Hoe many guys should he have to fight before it's considered settled?
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Aug 1 @ 1:53 AM ET
I think she's smoking hot, but yes, in a bit of a quirky way, which I like.

I've seen a handful of regulars on this board share that sentiment.

Have you ever seen her on her show at all?

- Fosco


never seen her show except for commercials for it. I also think she does hair dye commercials (or maybe shampoo). She just looks so damn awkward.
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 1 @ 1:56 AM ET
Cementko didn't give them a choice. Sometimes they'd get off with a warning. Different situation entirely. Semenko had no illusions about his role. The Canucks didn't really have a guy like him around.

Probs should have ended after Cooke though. Not Moores problem that the toughest guy he fought was Cooke. Hoe many guys should he have to fight before it's considered settled?

- sanfordnson


Yes, that actually was his fault, that is the only guy that he didnt refuse to fight...he refused everyone else...fighting cooke is like fighting my 10 year old nephew...in fact Id venture to say my nephew could beat the snot out of that punk... sorry i can't stand cooke...or moore
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