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vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Jul 30 @ 2:01 PM ET
Didn' he already request one a year ago? Don't know how much good it'll do.
- TheJerseyDevil1

True, Im simply replying to Cloutiers comment. Is there a time limit on when you could use a compliance buyout?
DarcyTucker16
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: St.Albert, AB
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jul 30 @ 2:02 PM ET
Laugh all you want, but the NHL gave you those picks. Look how many other teams have struggled for so long and have received nothing in the form of compensation or draft picks... But, it's Wayne's old team, the face of hockey in the 80s and early 90s, can't let them re-locate or go under.


On another note as well, I won't get into 9/11 because that's a whole other topic, and your comment was clearly meant as a sarcastic chirpy comment, but do some research on that if you're curious. You'll be shockingly surprised...

- Flyers_V88

Dude literally look like 5 posts higher... we put exactly which teams in the NHL got the exact same thing... your dumb
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jul 30 @ 2:02 PM ET
agree... although IMO the bottom 6 needs a lot of work... I was saying the bottom 6 part about TO for the last few years but last year they started to fix it... i like this years one... no spare parts being designated to the e3rd line
- DarcyTucker16


Not really. A 3LW and a 4C are the pressing needs. If they dealt N Schultz and had room for Cleary and say Gomez

Cleary-Gordon-Hemsky
Smyth-Gomez-Jones
Joensuu Brown

Although it's unlikely they do anything about it right now. Looks more like

Joensuu-Gordon-Hemsky
Smyth-Lander-Jones
Brown
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Jul 30 @ 2:02 PM ET
Name another team in major professional sports in recent memory to be given that many first round picks consecutively? If you look back, 4/5 years, the Oilers were in pretty serious financial trouble, and the team was going up for sale. I can't prove it, but I will bet a significant amount of money that the NHL helped the city of Edmonton and the Oilers in hopes that the picks would re-fuel the franchise back to glory and profitability. How does Columbus get absolutely (frank)ed when they had the worst season in the league and still not get the 1st overall pick. Twice, sure, you lucked-out. 3 times, I'm sorry, but I smell intervention all over that. I could quite obviously be wrong, but I'm willing I'm to bet I'm right.
- Flyers_V88



Seabrook-03, Barker-04, Skille-05, Toews-06, Kane-07, Beach-08 -->Cup-10
Whitney-02, Fluery-03, Malkin-04, Crosby-05, J.Staal-06, -->Cup-09
Dubnyk-04 (arguably countable since he was drafted a little high), 05-back in playoffs, 06-playoffs, 07-Gagner, 08-no high pick, but got Eberle via a traded pick, 09- MPS, 10- Hall 11-Nuge 12-Yakupov.

So, Chicago..started to suck after 02-03 season...6 high picks, the last being in 07-08, and win the cup in 2010.
Pittsburgh...started to suck in 01-02...5 high picks, 2 1st overalls, 2 2nd overalls, and win the cup in 2009. (With two of the best players in the league)
Edmonton...started to suck in 06-07...5 high picks. Has not made playoffs one year after high picks, like CHI and PITT did..before winning the cup.

Yeah, I think you're wrong.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 30 @ 2:02 PM ET
Are Flyers fans actually upset at something Cloutier wrote?

He's just a tool, you're giving him traffic. Guy doesn't know anything outside of deep fried Oreos and free porn tubes.
grovegrizzlies
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 02.05.2010

Jul 30 @ 2:03 PM ET
Pittsburg went 1,2,1

2003 Pittsburgh Penguins Marc-Andre Fleury Canada Goaltender Cape Breton Screaming Eagles QMJHL
2004 Washington Capitals Alexander Ovechkin ^ Russia Forward Dynamo Moscow RSL
2005 Pittsburgh Penguins Sidney Crosby Canada Forward Rimouski Oceanic QMJHL

- DarcyTucker16


2004 Pittsburgh took Malkin with the second Pick. He's a first round pick any given year. Washington probably wishes they took him instead? Like to hear some Cap fans thoughts on that?
siket71
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Gamehendge
Joined: 07.26.2006

Jul 30 @ 2:03 PM ET

The Sabres haven't had a legitimate #1 center since Drury left back in the summer of 2007. While the team may be set at center in 3 yrs as you say...they have no one right now until the kids develop.

Hodgson...needs to be signed and learn how to play defense.

Grigorenko...while he obviously has offensive talent...did not look comfortable at all in the handful of wasted nhl games he played in last year...his defense is suspect too.

Girgensons...may turn out to be the best of the 3. He most surely will be better than a 3rd liner. This kid seems loaded with grit, determination and attitude...lets hope that rubs off on the other two.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jul 30 @ 2:04 PM ET
If I were EDM I'd just buyout Hemsky and look for anyone available with size and grit. Morrow, Prospal, Antropov, anyone who can bulk up their forwards so they don't get beat up all season. Hemsky is just taking up space on the roster and its clear no one is happy with the situation.
- TheJerseyDevil1


if Horcoff got a depth D and a 7th, I think Hemsky can get a 3rd and a B prospect. I'd rather keep him than buy him out. Morrow's a poor possession player.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 30 @ 2:04 PM ET
True, Im simply replying to Cloutiers comment. Is there a time limit on when you could use a compliance buyout?
- vancity787


Yes. Teams had either the summer of 2013 or 2014 to utilize their CBO's and had to do so in the normal buyout window, which is generally 48 hours after the Stanley Cup is awarded thru June 30th
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 30 @ 2:04 PM ET
Richard Cloutier: 30 Teams - 30 Comments
- Maxbone

"I'm still waiting for the Islanders to sacrifice one of their incredible young centers to bring in a top line winger to play with Tavares"

I'm guessing Snow will do that right around the same time Mactavish does?
Flyers_V88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 02.26.2013

Jul 30 @ 2:05 PM ET
Dude literally look like 5 posts higher... we put exactly which teams in the NHL got the exact same thing... your dumb
- DarcyTucker16

That's not the same thing though, idiot. 3 consecutive 1st overall picks are not the equivalent of drafting top 10 for 3-5 years.
DarcyTucker16
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: St.Albert, AB
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jul 30 @ 2:06 PM ET
Not really. A 3LW and a 4C are the pressing needs. If they dealt N Schultz and had room for Cleary and say Gomez

Cleary-Gordon-Hemsky
Smyth-Gomez-Jones
Joensuu Brown

Although it's unlikely they do anything about it right now. Looks more like

Joensuu-Gordon-Hemsky
Smyth-Lander-Jones
Brown

- TheNugeIsHuge


for me im a solid top 6 bottom 6 guys and hemsky , smith, gomez dont fit that... if you got clearly and threw jones on the 3rd line thats a solid 3rd line.... i still love brown so if you got clearly and a 4C and another 4W then IMO it would be the right fit of guys (no idea who joensuu is so he may fill one of those spots)

but hemsky and smyth remind me of connolly and grabo etc playing ont he 3rd line,... they just dont fit the role
TheJerseyDevil1
New Jersey Devils
Location: Brick City, NJ
Joined: 10.05.2011

Jul 30 @ 2:06 PM ET
if Horcoff got a depth D and a 7th, I think Hemsky can get a 3rd and a B prospect. I'd rather keep him than buy him out. Morrow's a poor possession player.
- TheNugeIsHuge


I hate Morrow too, but looking at their top-9, they desperately need muscle. Too many finesse players. I think they will get worn down by bigger and stronger teams over the course of the season without any PWF's in the lineup.
carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Jul 30 @ 2:06 PM ET
25. St. Louis Blues - Neither Halak or Elliott are good enough to win a cup. Tim Thomas or Ryan Miller is going to end up here by the end of the season.




Halak is good enough to backstop the Blues to a cup. I agree that Elliott is not, he folds in the playoffs when the pressure is on.

Thomas or Miller will not be on the team.
pbrsimps
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2011

Jul 30 @ 2:06 PM ET
EDM's SV% was 7th in the league. Tied with DET, VAN(led by your new starter), and TO.

Goaltending and the top 6, should be the last things on the minds of EDM mgmt.

A top pairing is what EDM needs. I (homerishly) think EDM's a #1D and a cleaned up bottom 6 away from making the playoffs

- TheNugeIsHuge


I dont think its homerism. I expect Oilers to make a decent push for the playoffs this season. Adding a #1D is a huge addition, and could push any team a few spots up. That is unlikely due to the price of a #1D, but an improved bottom 6 is very achieveable and im a little disspointed that Edm didnt furthur address that.
I think having a deep bottom 6 had a significant impact on the Leafs improvement this past season.
BigDre
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The only thing we win is a trophy for our captain who attends gay pride parades- Lahey, AB
Joined: 01.09.2012

Jul 30 @ 2:07 PM ET
Nuge, Klef and 2014s 1st and 3rd for Malkin
marcfournier
Season Ticket Holder
Minnesota Wild
Location: Shoreview, MN
Joined: 06.09.2013

Jul 30 @ 2:07 PM ET
I wouldn't take any of your top 6 for Ryan Suter. Parise would be on your top line. I have never seen a team have so many number one overall picks and still not improve.
DarcyTucker16
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: St.Albert, AB
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jul 30 @ 2:07 PM ET
That's not the same thing though, idiot. 3 consecutive 1st overall picks are not the equivalent of drafting top 10 for 3-5 years.
- Flyers_V88

dumbass... Quebec Nordiques 89-91... literally 3 1sts in a row... Pittsburg went 5,1,2,1,2 and one of their 2s was malkin... stop crying cuz philly takes the john ferguson jr. approach and sells off youth for older players (although as of the last year or 2 that seems to have changed
They got 30th, 30th, and 29th and were the laughing stock of the league... they werent given poop
braidonh
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Camrose, AB
Joined: 01.31.2013

Jul 30 @ 2:08 PM ET
Laugh all you want, but the NHL gave you those picks. Look how many other teams have struggled for so long and have received nothing in the form of compensation or draft picks... But, it's Wayne's old team, the face of hockey in the 80s and early 90s, can't let them re-locate or go under.


On another note as well, I won't get into 9/11 because that's a whole other topic, and your comment was clearly meant as a sarcastic chirpy comment, but do some research on that if you're curious. You'll be shockingly surprised...

- Flyers_V88


Well if you wanna talk about "compensation" remember the time the NHL owned the Phoenix Coyotes? Now certainly they werent given anything in the way of gifted first overall picks... But they literally were being operated by the NHL. That's a bit in the way of making sure a team doesn't move/go under.

Let me guide you to a casino, where people are willing to risk a lot of money on random chance. The success rate at many casino games is far under the statistical probability which resulted in the oilers picking 1st overall 3 consecutive times. Unlikely; yes. Improbable: yes. However I find it confusing and concerning that you think it was rigged. Have faith in the odds. .

Yes I'm being sarcastic and snarky but its all in good fun. The 9/11 comment was made in jest, and I am quite familiar with the... Suspicious circumstances surrounding it. All very interesting stuff but great joke fodder.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 30 @ 2:08 PM ET
3. Buffalo Sabres - Which player will make the NHL first: Mikhail Grigorenko or Zemgus Girgensons?
- Maxbone


Didn't Grigorenko make the NHL last year?
TheJerseyDevil1
New Jersey Devils
Location: Brick City, NJ
Joined: 10.05.2011

Jul 30 @ 2:08 PM ET
25. St. Louis Blues - Neither Halak or Elliott are good enough to win a cup. Tim Thomas or Ryan Miller is going to end up here by the end of the season.




didn't even see this one. Goaltending had nothing to do with how their playoffs ended. Good lord, Tim Thomas or Ryan Miller? Where does Ek find these guys.
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Jul 30 @ 2:09 PM ET
Yes. Teams had either the summer of 2013 or 2014 to utilize their CBO's and had to do so in the normal buyout window, which is generally 48 hours after the Stanley Cup is awarded thru June 30th
- Jsaquella

Alrighty, Lets feed that fukking idea to the wolves.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 30 @ 2:09 PM ET
Correction, Nurse as well. It just pisses me off, regardless of Cloutier's article or not, that the Oil swindled 3 first overall picks and they still suck!? Like it's the team's coaching and management that need to be looked at, every other team (Chicago, Pitts, etc) who have had a couple of picks are all powerhouses now and their changes took place in literally a couple of seasons... What's going on in Edmonton? Seriously?
- Flyers_V88

It takes time. Edmonton contrary to some belief and a lot of their fans belief will be a power house within the next couple years. They need some D and stable goaltending. Not the easiest thing to come by in this league these days but it'll happen sooner than later.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jul 30 @ 2:11 PM ET
I wouldn't take any of your top 6 for Ryan Suter. Parise would be on your top line. I have never seen a team have so many number one overall picks and still not improve.
- marcfournier


Hall was just 9th in league scoring. Yak was 19. Nuge had a torn labrum.

Thanks for coming out, troll!
Team_Teal
San Jose Sharks
Location: Benicia, CA
Joined: 04.15.2011

Jul 30 @ 2:11 PM ET
Richard Cloutier: 30 Teams - 30 Comments
- Maxbone


"24. San Jose Sharks - The back end of this team is awful, even if you move Brent Burns back to playing defense. What did the GM of the Sharks do all summer, aside from tanning?"

A blueline which includes Boyle & Vlasic, both of whom were extended invites to team Canada (as well as Brad Stuart & the potential filling in of Brent Burns) but they're awful....

How you still blog here is beyond comprehension.
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