This off season is going way too slow, I am left to trolling the Devils blog and as much as I hate those guys I hate being a troll.

This off season is going way too slow, I am left to trolling the Devils blog and as much as I hate those guys I hate being a troll.
- cranford93

Hai Guise!!!!! I talked doodie on the Devils page! Hope you're all proud of me!!!!

Hai Guise!!!!! I talked doodie on the Devils page! Hope you're all proud of me!!!!
- smellmyfinger

Devils fans think there is a future in NJ, team of mostly non home grown mediocre talent

This off season is going way too slow, I am left to trolling the Devils blog and as much as I hate those guys I hate being a troll.
- cranford93

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Devils fans think there is a future in NJ, team of mostly non home grown mediocre talent
- cranford93

Watch us crap on them over and over... and they make a playoff run. I will burn every devils hockey card I have.

Thanks aecleptic, here is my very workable opening night Roster which leaves $400K open on the Cap as well for maneuvers. This is based on Demoting Asham, Powe, Pyatt, Johnson, Falk to the AHL and calling up Miller, Kristo, McIlrath to the big club.

FORWARDS
Chris Kreider ($1.325m) / Derek Stepan ($4.500m) / Rick Nash ($7.800m)
Carl Hagelin ($2.250m) / Derick Brassard ($3.200m) / Ryan Callahan ($4.275m)
Mats Zuccarello ($1.150m) / Brad Richards ($6.667m) / Benoit Pouliot ($1.300m)
Brian Boyle ($1.700m) / Dominic Moore ($1.000m) / Derek Dorsett ($1.633m)
J.T. Miller ($1.244m) / Danny Kristo ($1.300m)
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan McDonagh ($4.700m) / Marc Staal ($3.975m)
Dan Girardi ($3.325m) / Michael Del Zotto ($2.550m)
Anton Stralman ($1.700m) / Dylan McIlrath ($1.295m)
John Moore ($0.965m) /
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m)
Martin Biron ($1.300m)
OTHER
Buried: Darroll Powe ($0.142m)
Buried: Arron Asham ($0.075m)
Buried: Taylor Pyatt ($0.625m)
Buried: Justin Falk ($0.050m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $66,920,833; BONUSES: $3,025,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $404,167

Thanks aecleptic, here is my very workable opening night Roster which leaves $400K open on the Cap as well for maneuvers. This is based on Demoting Asham, Powe, Pyatt, Johnson, Falk to the AHL and calling up Miller, Kristo, McIlrath to the big club.

FORWARDS
Chris Kreider ($1.325m) / Derek Stepan ($4.500m) / Rick Nash ($7.800m)
Carl Hagelin ($2.250m) / Derick Brassard ($3.200m) / Ryan Callahan ($4.275m)
Mats Zuccarello ($1.150m) / Brad Richards ($6.667m) / Benoit Pouliot ($1.300m)
Brian Boyle ($1.700m) / Dominic Moore ($1.000m) / Derek Dorsett ($1.633m)
J.T. Miller ($1.244m) / Danny Kristo ($1.300m)
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan McDonagh ($4.700m) / Marc Staal ($3.975m)
Dan Girardi ($3.325m) / Michael Del Zotto ($2.550m)
Anton Stralman ($1.700m) / Dylan McIlrath ($1.295m)
John Moore ($0.965m) /
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m)
Martin Biron ($1.300m)
OTHER
Buried: Darroll Powe ($0.142m)
Buried: Arron Asham ($0.075m)
Buried: Taylor Pyatt ($0.625m)
Buried: Justin Falk ($0.050m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $66,920,833; BONUSES: $3,025,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $404,167
- xcheckmajor

I dont see a point in calling up McIlrath to be a healthy scratch, he needs all the ice time he can get to keep progressing. Rather just keep Johnson up to be a healthy scratch.

Pyatt likely wont be scratched, Im sure AV wants to see him on the ice and see if he is anything like the player he once saw on the Nucks.

Im also curious to see if AV tests out a USA line...
Kreider, Stepan, Kristo

I dont see a point in calling up McIlrath to be a healthy scratch, he needs all the ice time he can get to keep progressing. Rather just keep Johnson up to be a healthy scratch.

Pyatt likely wont be scratched, Im sure AV wants to see him on the ice and see if he is anything like the player he once saw on the Nucks.

Im also curious to see if AV tests out a USA line...
Kreider, Stepan, Kristo
- aecliptic

yeah, McIlrath only has 45 pro games under belt after coming back from his knee injury last year. He needs full time, top pairing minutes in Hartford.

Thanks aecleptic, here is my very workable opening night Roster which leaves $400K open on the Cap as well for maneuvers. This is based on Demoting Asham, Powe, Pyatt, Johnson, Falk to the AHL and calling up Miller, Kristo, McIlrath to the big club.

FORWARDS
Chris Kreider ($1.325m) / Derek Stepan ($4.500m) / Rick Nash ($7.800m)
Carl Hagelin ($2.250m) / Derick Brassard ($3.200m) / Ryan Callahan ($4.275m)
Mats Zuccarello ($1.150m) / Brad Richards ($6.667m) / Benoit Pouliot ($1.300m)
Brian Boyle ($1.700m) / Dominic Moore ($1.000m) / Derek Dorsett ($1.633m)
J.T. Miller ($1.244m) / Danny Kristo ($1.300m)
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan McDonagh ($4.700m) / Marc Staal ($3.975m)
Dan Girardi ($3.325m) / Michael Del Zotto ($2.550m)
Anton Stralman ($1.700m) / Dylan McIlrath ($1.295m)
John Moore ($0.965m) /
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m)
Martin Biron ($1.300m)
OTHER
Buried: Darroll Powe ($0.142m)
Buried: Arron Asham ($0.075m)
Buried: Taylor Pyatt ($0.625m)
Buried: Justin Falk ($0.050m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $66,920,833; BONUSES: $3,025,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $404,167
- xcheckmajor

Would Sather deal Del Zotto and Boyle (or Pyatt) for a mid-6 forward and/or a pick to open roster and cap space (about 4.2M depending on who you trade--Boyle or Pyatt)?

Would Sather deal Del Zotto and Boyle (or Pyatt) for a mid-6 forward and/or a pick to open roster and cap space (about 4.2M depending on who you trade--Boyle or Pyatt)?
- mames11

I think dz is here to stay. I think he's gonna have an explosive season offensively under av. He's really gonna take a step forward imo if he can stay playing second line minutes and doesn't get burned out playing 24 mins a game.

Plus if u waive him, chances are he will be picked up by a team that could use his style at only $1.55. Then it's all gone.
- xcheckmajor

I don't think he gets picked up. Asham and powe weren't and they had even cheaper deals and brought more than pyatt.

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- mighty13duck

You really have no idea how it burns me, I have never been the trolling type but I can't resist with that blog, it's like a stripper giving me puppy eyes

You really have no idea how it burns me, I have never been the trolling type but I can't resist with that blog, it's like a stripper giving me puppy eyes
- cranford93

That broke franchise could use every single it can get

I don't think he gets picked up. Asham and powe weren't and they had even cheaper deals and brought more than pyatt.
- rangerdanger94

No one picked up anyone because it was the first week of Summer. It'll be different when its closer to the season starting and teams have a better idea what they are missing on the their rosters as well as if players aren't starting healthy. At that time, Asham Powe and Pyatt could become very attractive for a team needing to add some 4th line grit or replace an injured player.

I dont see a point in calling up McIlrath to be a healthy scratch, he needs all the ice time he can get to keep progressing. Rather just keep Johnson up to be a healthy scratch.

Pyatt likely wont be scratched, Im sure AV wants to see him on the ice and see if he is anything like the player he once saw on the Nucks.

Im also curious to see if AV tests out a USA line...
Kreider, Stepan, Kristo
- aecliptic

Yeah, I didn't like that idea either. Falk or Johnson would be better, but McIlrath just gives us a little more cap flexibility. I was thinking to let him play the first 4-5 games of the season, you can always send him down and still slide his ELC. That will give more flex if there is need for another forward to be called up.

No one picked up anyone because it was the first week of Summer. It'll be different when its closer to the season starting and teams have a better idea what they are missing on the their rosters as well as if players aren't starting healthy. At that time, Asham Powe and Pyatt could become very attractive for a team needing to add some 4th line grit or replace an injured player.
- xcheckmajor

I disagree. The deep into the summer you get and the more set teams' rosters become imo. it becomes especially more difficult for a player like powe or asham or pyatt to get claimed when teams can just fill those 4th line spots for cheaper within their own system. Plus there are still ufas out there. Besides clowe and clarkson and 1 or 2 other deals, gms have been very stingy and we've seen the effect of a lower salary cap. What gm is gonna want an oversized traffic cone for 1.5 mil to play on the 4th line when they could use a kid in their system or sign a remaining ufa for cheaper? I think we're stuck with these guys but at least its just 1 more year.

I mean the devils had to just get rid of tallinder for free and hes actually a serviceable 2nd pairing dman.

I disagree. The deep into the summer you get and the more set teams' rosters become imo. it becomes especially more difficult for a player like powe or asham or pyatt to get claimed when teams can just fill those 4th line spots for cheaper within their own system. Plus there are still ufas out there. Besides clowe and clarkson and 1 or 2 other deals, gms have been very stingy and we've seen the effect of a lower salary cap. What gm is gonna want an oversized traffic cone for 1.5 mil to play on the 4th line when they could use a kid in their system or sign a remaining ufa for cheaper? I think we're stuck with these guys but at least its just 1 more year.

I mean the devils had to just get rid of tallinder for free and hes actually a serviceable 2nd pairing dman.
- rangerdanger94

We had to trade for Powe during the season in order to address a need for a defensive PKer that we couldn't address from within. I think no one picked up anyone earlier because they had no idea what their rosters would need. There was still UFA, still training camp for the kids, etc... Some teams don't know what their missing until after training camp. They don't know if they need a PK specialist because no one stepped up to the task. The same could be said about trading Asham Powe Pyatt. The point I'm making is, their cap hits are bad on OUR team, but not particularly bad on any team that has cap space available. A team can call up a kid and rush his development to be a 4th line grinder or penalty killer, possibly be a liability on the ice, or they can use an extra $500K of capspace and get someone like Powe for example. Thats what we did because we didn't have anyone to service that need and we didn't realize we were lacking that need until we were into the season.

Not every team thinks like us or is in the same position. Our problem is the Cap because we have a strong amount of quality players. Some other team's problem could be grit or size, or penalty killing, or fighting or enforcing. They could have plenty of capspace and a veteran may seem more appealing than an unproven prospect.

Wehad to trade foowe during the season in order to address a need for a defensive PKer we couldn't address from within. I think no one picked up anyone earlier because they had no idea what their rosters would need. There was still UFA, still training camp for the kids, etc... Some teams don't know what their missing until after training camp. They don't know if they need a PK specialist because no one stepped up to the task. The same could be said about trading Asham Powe Pyatt. The point I'm making is, their cap hits are bad on OUR team, but not particularly bad on any team that has cap space available. A team can call up a kid and rush his development to be a 4th line grinder or penalty killer, possibly be a liability on the ice, or they can use an extra $500K of capspace and get someone like Powe for example. Thats what we did because we didn't have anyone to service that need and we didn't realize we were lacking that need until we were into the season.

Not every team thinks like us or is in the same position. Our problem is the Cap because we have a strong amount of quality players. Some other team's problem could be grit or size, or penalty killing, or fighting or enforcing. They could have plenty of capspace and a veteran may seem more appealing than an unproven prospect.
- xcheckjor

Yea u have a point i just get the feeling that the deeper you get into the summer, the more set rosters generally become. Theres been zero activity for a while now throughout the league and it looks like its gonna keep up that way.

From Ek's blog. I love the Sens at 30/1, and the Flyers at 40/1 isn't so bad either.

Vegas Odds to Win the Cup

Pittsburgh Penguins 5/1
Chicago Blackhawks 6/1
Boston Bruins 9/1
St. Louis Blues 10/1
Los Angeles Kings 12/1
Vancouver Canucks 12/1
Detroit Red Wings 14/1
New York Rangers 14/1
San Jose Sharks 16/1
Montreal Canadiens 20/1
Anaheim Ducks 20/1
Toronto Maple Leafs 25/1
Ottawa Senators 30/1
Edmonton Oilers 30/1
New York Islanders 30/1
Washington Capitals 30/1
Columbus Blue Jackets 40/1
Philadelphia Flyers 40/1
New Jersey Devils 40/1
Carolina Hurricanes 40/1
Minnesota Wild 40/1
Tampa Bay Lightning 40/1
Winnipeg Jets 40/1
Nashville Predators 50/1
Dallas Stars 50/1
Colorado Avalanche 50/1
Phoenix Coyotes 60/1
Buffalo Sabres 100/1
Florida Panthers 100/1
Calgary Flames 200/1

From Ek's blog. I love the Sens at 30/1, and the Flyers at 40/1 isn't so bad either.

Vegas Odds to Win the Cup

Pittsburgh Penguins 5/1
Chicago Blackhawks 6/1
Boston Bruins 9/1
St. Louis Blues 10/1
Los Angeles Kings 12/1
Vancouver Canucks 12/1
Detroit Red Wings 14/1
New York Rangers 14/1
San Jose Sharks 16/1
Montreal Canadiens 20/1
Anaheim Ducks 20/1
Toronto Maple Leafs 25/1
Ottawa Senators 30/1
Edmonton Oilers 30/1
New York Islanders 30/1
Washington Capitals 30/1
Columbus Blue Jackets 40/1
Philadelphia Flyers 40/1
New Jersey Devils 40/1
Carolina Hurricanes 40/1
Minnesota Wild 40/1
Tampa Bay Lightning 40/1
Winnipeg Jets 40/1
Nashville Predators 50/1
Dallas Stars 50/1
Colorado Avalanche 50/1
Phoenix Coyotes 60/1
Buffalo Sabres 100/1
Florida Panthers 100/1
Calgary Flames 200/1
- Pete V

Hawks to repeat > Pens IMO. And agreed, Sens is pretty low...

From Ek's blog. I love the Sens at 30/1, and the Flyers at 40/1 isn't so bad either.

Vegas Odds to Win the Cup

Pittsburgh Penguins 5/1
Chicago Blackhawks 6/1
Boston Bruins 9/1
St. Louis Blues 10/1
Los Angeles Kings 12/1
Vancouver Canucks 12/1
Detroit Red Wings 14/1
New York Rangers 14/1
San Jose Sharks 16/1
Montreal Canadiens 20/1
Anaheim Ducks 20/1
Toronto Maple Leafs 25/1
Ottawa Senators 30/1
Edmonton Oilers 30/1
New York Islanders 30/1
Washington Capitals 30/1
Columbus Blue Jackets 40/1
Philadelphia Flyers 40/1
New Jersey Devils 40/1
Carolina Hurricanes 40/1
Minnesota Wild 40/1
Tampa Bay Lightning 40/1
Winnipeg Jets 40/1
Nashville Predators 50/1
Dallas Stars 50/1
Colorado Avalanche 50/1
Phoenix Coyotes 60/1
Buffalo Sabres 100/1
Florida Panthers 100/1
Calgary Flames 200/1
- Pete V

200/1 flames

Florida at 100-1, that must have been before they announced the signing of Gomez.

Florida at 100-1, that must have been before they announced the signing of Gomez.
- jimbro83

But, I have to be honest. Gomez at under a million dollars is pretty good deal.

But, I have to be honest. Gomez at under a million dollars is pretty good deal.
- Pete V

yeah, very low risk, potential reward for them.

I disagree. The deep into the summer you get and the more set teams' rosters become imo. it becomes especially more difficult for a player like powe or asham or pyatt to get claimed when teams can just fill those 4th line spots for cheaper within their own system. Plus there are still ufas out there. Besides clowe and clarkson and 1 or 2 other deals, gms have been very stingy and we've seen the effect of a lower salary cap. What gm is gonna want an oversized traffic cone for 1.5 mil to play on the 4th line when they could use a kid in their system or sign a remaining ufa for cheaper? I think we're stuck with these guys but at least its just 1 more year.

I mean the devils had to just get rid of tallinder for free and hes actually a serviceable 2nd pairing dman.
- rangerdanger94

IMO training camp is when clubs will be interested in Boyle and/or Pyatt. Right now most teams might feel good about their club but might change their minds once they lose someone to injury or some kids they expected to make the team struggle. It happens ever year and when that does happen some clubs might be on the lookout for a player like Boyle or Pyatt.